Cowards disconnect

[Esitaistelija]

It is super anoying to try play as a pirate when cowards disconnect allways even when you give them change to drop cargo.
I will be adding here names of these cowards and kill you on sight from this moment on.

Mod edit: Naming and shaming and blacklists are not allowed. Please avoid this.

 

[Cody]

I will be adding here names of these cowards...

Not advisable!

 

[Roybe]

Naming and shaming is against forum policy.

You can use video, put up on YouTube (not linked here) and put in a constant stream of tickets for FDev to use as evidence to ban those that combat log.

 

[newman1702]

As far as I know, naming and shaming is frowned upon on these boards, so you may find yourself with a locked thread if you persist. Not a moderator, just a friendly warning - much like the one you gave your intended, but not to be victim

In every online game you'll get all types of people. People who play fair, people who don't. Traders who get attacked by pirates can also tell you about pirates who attack whether they dropped cargo or not. So, you'll get traders who run, who comply and drop cargo, and those that prefer to "cheat" their way out of this and combat log.

On the flipside you'll find "honorable" pirates who'll stay true to their word, and as long as people give them the requested cargo and don't do anything stupid, they'll let them go, and then you get your aggressive kiddies playing the roles of space psychopaths who really just want to kill defenseless targets and aren't that interested in cargo. The point? All these types of people are here whether you want them to be or not. You can accept it as a part of the experience, or rage about it; either way it won't make much difference. As long as these people aren't breaking the terms of service, they can't get banned for their behavior and it's up to them to play how they like.

 

[CaptainKremmen]

It is super anoying to try play as a pirate when cowards disconnect allways even when you give them change to drop cargo.
I will be adding here names of these cowards and kill you on sight from this moment on.

Please don't "name and shame".

Simply report combat loggers via the support ticketing system available from the launcher.

 

[Esitaistelija]

This behaviour is so game breaking that shaming would be only way to make these people not to do this any more.
I even use hatch breakers after removing shields so they would understand that i dont wanna destroy them.

 

[Roybe]

This behaviour is so game breaking that shaming would be only way to make these people not to do this any more.
I even use hatch breakers after removing shields so they would understand that i dont wanna destroy them.

It is considered an exploit by the devs. And the banhammer is supposed to drop on folks, SOON™. Just keep dropping tickets...and FDev will take care of the rest.

 

[Esitaistelija]

I will just then start adding names to my personall starlog.

 

[Ving]

Thing is, you can't prove whether someone maliciously killed their connection or just hit Esc | Exit and waited out the timer. The former is cheating, the latter is just choosing not to play with you and is not against the EULA, or considered cheating.

Just get over it and find someone who does want to play, rather than crying on the forums

 

[Esitaistelija]

Combat logger spotted.

 

[mavrac]

It is super anoying to try play as a pirate when cowards disconnect allways even when you give them change to drop cargo.
I will be adding here names of these cowards and kill you on sight from this moment on.

I used a less offensive word to describe ppl that disconnect, yet the MOD's flagged me seriously? And not this guy?. I would like to say that if someone is trading and you attack them to steal their goods. Who really is the coward? My issue and this has been common. I pirate hunt with friends. We wait for you all to interdict, follow your wake, and 3 pythons 1 vulture go in for the kill. Now, the pirate is performing an act that is not honorable, its thievery. Said pirate is picking on a ship that is not a fighter, and most likely doesn't have weapons. More than half the time these pirates disconnect. Hmmm so pirates can dish it out, but can't take it. We will continue to hunt pirates in this way. Pirating is not a good way to make money, and many are murderers. Way I look at it is, make it frustrating to be a pirate and maybe it'll stop....

To all traders. We will help. If you're running rares let me know. We will cover you. If you decide you want to pirate hunt as well and have a conda, clipper, FDL, python, vulture, or ASP. Geared out. Then join in on the fun making the black a safer place for everyone.

 

[DsG Offensive]

I used a less offensive word to describe ppl that disconnect, yet the MOD's flagged me seriously? And not this guy?. I would like to say that if someone is trading and you attack them to steal their goods. Who really is the coward? My issue and this has been common. I pirate hunt with friends. We wait for you all to interdict, follow your wake, and 3 pythons 1 vulture go in for the kill. Now, the pirate is performing an act that is not honorable, its thievery. Said pirate is picking on a ship that is not a fighter, and most likely doesn't have weapons. More than half the time these pirates disconnect. Hmmm so pirates can dish it out, but can't take it. We will continue to hunt pirates in this way. Pirating is not a good way to make money, and many are murderers. Way I look at it is, make it frustrating to be a pirate and maybe it'll stop....

To all traders. We will help. If you're running rares let me know. We will cover you. If you decide you want to pirate hunt as well and have a conda, clipper, FDL, python, vulture, or ASP. Geared out. Then join in on the fun making the black a safer place for everyone.

If pirating wasn't supposed to be able to be done to players FD would've made it so you couldn't saying it's wrong is saying the game is unfair because you can't hold your own against them once again this is Elite: DANGEROUS not Elite: Safe travels. If you don't wanna get pirated by other players don't play in open world as its part of the game I mean I've even got the next rank on my community rewards and I'll tell you what I haven't mined a single piece of Osmium myself and I also haven't destroyed another player if they wanna run after I interdict I'll just interdict over and over and over till you drop some cargo. Run in wings to reduce the danger or like I said stay out of open play it's not like anyone's forcing you to submit and be pirated plus it's also not that hard to escape interdiction if you have any sort of piloting skills if someone moves in behind you flip around over and over it may take time but you will certainly deter anyone from being able to interdict you. And btw even I myself have been pirated and it goes one of two ways either I escape interdiction or I submit and blast you right back to Trevithick dock either way doesn't bother me in a Python in the slightest.

 

[Jenner]

Naming and shaming and/or blacklists are not allowed. Please do not post such content.

Also please avoid unnecessary name calling and inflammatory rhetoric if we're going to discuss this.

 

[mavrac]

If pirating wasn't supposed to be able to be done to players FD would've made it so you couldn't saying it's wrong is saying the game is unfair because you can't hold your own against them once again this is Elite: DANGEROUS not Elite: Safe travels. If you don't wanna get pirated by other players don't play in open world as its part of the game I mean I've even got the next rank on my community rewards and I'll tell you what I haven't mined a single piece of Osmium myself and I also haven't destroyed another player if they wanna run after I interdict I'll just interdict over and over and over till you drop some cargo. Run in wings to reduce the danger or like I said stay out of open play it's not like anyone's forcing you to submit and be pirated plus it's also not that hard to escape interdiction if you have any sort of piloting skills if someone moves in behind you flip around over and over it may take time but you will certainly deter anyone from being able to interdict you. And btw even I myself have been pirated and it goes one of two ways either I escape interdiction or I submit and blast you right back to Trevithick dock either way doesn't bother me in a Python in the slightest.

It may be apart of the game. Please don't tell people our only option is to play alone. In this community, we all came here to play in space. We have no options to play with others that don't play in this way. I don't care if FD put it in the game. Fact is not all pirates are honorable, and many players are out right murderers. But if i want to play this with my friends and family, its kill or be killed. So yes pirate away and i will continue to recruit folks who will do what i do hunt ye pirates, every death costs these pirates more than they are making for the profession and there is nothing wrong with hunting them. When private servers are finally unlocked ill be hosting a PVE ONLY server. Just like we have on pc. You will find that many will leave your pirating open world to go here and who will you pirate? Maybe each other.

Again please, with all respect. Stop telling ppl that do not want to be apart such gameplay choices, our only option is to play alone. It shouldn't be. We ALL have a right to play together.

 

[newman1702]

The thing to understand is that this is a game, not real life. If someone wants to disconnect at a certain time, it'd be real tricky to tell them they can't. What if their power went out? Lost their connection? Wife's water broke and needed to rush to hospital?

Speaking purely from a legal standpoint, it's really, really tricky to say "you can't log out at certain times because you'll be banned". Then you get a certain percentage of completely innoncent paying customers getting the ban. IMO, it's far less damaging to just accept the fact that some people will combat log, though I will admit to not understanding those people - if this is what you're going to do, why not just play in solo in the first place? But, whatever the case, I doubt that any policy restricting people from logging out any time they please can fly legally.

 

[blugorilla]

It is super anoying to try play as a pirate when cowards disconnect allways even when you give them change to drop cargo.
I will be adding here names of these cowards and kill you on sight from this moment on.

Don't add names it's against their rules. Also get use to the logoffski been an issue since day one on pc. they have no intention of fixing it.

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It is considered an exploit by the devs. And the banhammer is supposed to drop on folks, SOON™. Just keep dropping tickets...and FDev will take care of the rest.

They will not be banned. Been playing pc since the beginning. They put the trimmer in to stop the
Instant log offs. They can't ban. The timber is their fix. just get use to it or find a new career. Trust me they dint get banned.

 

[newman1702]

they have no intention of fixing it.

I suspect you're right, and I also think that's because as the developer, they can't afford to look at this issue just from the viewpoint of one group of players. The problem with any sort of a "fix" to this issue is that the negative side effects of those fixes would be a percentage of people who had legit dc's at unfortunate times, i.e. innocent paying customers, getting severly punished, possibly prevented from using a product they paid for or losing a lot of progress in the game because the game decided that combat logging = losing your ship, etc.

The worst side effect to not "fixing" this is a few players RP-ing as pirates getting a bit frustrated at times. It's not ideal, and I understand said frustration, but if this issue was simple to fix they'd have done it by now.

 

[blugorilla]

I suspect you're right, and I also think that's because as the developer, they can't afford to look at this issue just from the viewpoint of one group of players. The problem with any sort of a "fix" to this issue is that the negative side effects of those fixes would be a percentage of people who had legit dc's at unfortunate times, i.e. innocent paying customers, getting severly punished, possibly prevented from using a product they paid for or losing a lot of progress in the game because the game decided that combat logging = losing your ship, etc.

The worst side effect to not "fixing" this is a few players RP-ing as pirates getting a bit frustrated at times. It's not ideal, and I understand said frustration, but if this issue was simple to fix they'd have done it by now.

Since playing this game from the beginning. All they have done ti fix issues like this have been minor. Take rockets for example. They are completely useless now, because people would sit at spaceports and blast people coming and going. Their fix to this problem was to take away all the thermal damage. So no shield penetration. The fact that you can barely hold any to begin with now makes them a useless item in game. And they have no intention of fixing that either. Every fix they have ever made to combat against people behaving badly has resulted in making the game worse. Therefore I believe that they will never fix the issues. All they do is make the game more difficult to play

 

[mavrac]

Since playing this game from the beginning. All they have done ti fix issues like this have been minor. Take rockets for example. They are completely useless now, because people would sit at spaceports and blast people coming and going. Their fix to this problem was to take away all the thermal damage. So no shield penetration. The fact that you can barely hold any to begin with now makes them a useless item in game. And they have no intention of fixing that either. Every fix they have ever made to combat against people behaving badly has resulted in making the game worse. Therefore I believe that they will never fix the issues. All they do is make the game more difficult to play

Cause and effect

Whether i agree with the outcome or not.

Hackers cause extreme security everywhere.

Players that perform these acts for their own pleasure cause this effect. Nothing we can do about it. All the devs can do is their best to make the game fair and fun. If you have ideas how to improve the game....

Inform FD, don't just say fix it.
Provide a solution that is thought out and balanced. Think it through, they listen to great ideas that are thought out. Demands on the other hand as we should all expect, are listened to much less.

 

[Comrade Error]

It is super anoying to try play as a pirate when cowards disconnect allways even when you give them change to drop cargo.
I will be adding here names of these cowards and kill you on sight from this moment on.

Mod edit: Naming and shaming and blacklists are not allowed. Please avoid this.

I will say I've crashed a lot when either getting interdicted (mostly by a player though) and when I jettison my cargo.