Cowards disconnect

[DsG Offensive]

It may be apart of the game. Please don't tell people our only option is to play alone. In this community, we all came here to play in space. We have no options to play with others that don't play in this way. I don't care if FD put it in the game. Fact is not all pirates are honorable, and many players are out right murderers. But if i want to play this with my friends and family, its kill or be killed. So yes pirate away and i will continue to recruit folks who will do what i do hunt ye pirates, every death costs these pirates more than they are making for the profession and there is nothing wrong with hunting them. When private servers are finally unlocked ill be hosting a PVE ONLY server. Just like we have on pc. You will find that many will leave your pirating open world to go here and who will you pirate? Maybe each other.

Again please, with all respect. Stop telling ppl that do not want to be apart such gameplay choices, our only option is to play alone. It shouldn't be. We ALL have a right to play together.

I am not saying that is their only option but it is the only one that completely eliminates the problem. I'd love for everybody to be in open play it'd make things more interesting but fact is clearly some people just hate the fact that another player could kill them at any time thus the only fix for it atm is simply switch to solo. It's not like I'm saying they don't have any right running around open play servers with everyone else but at the risk of having to see more arguments about the ethics of playing a video game as the bad guy it is a pretty good suggestion in fact it's pretty much the only suggestion seeing as FD is never going to remove the ability to interdict other players. Personally killing any player without good cause is just griefing not pirating but sadly to say there's no way to eliminate that from the game as a whole short of taking away PVE fire (making all damage to a players ship from another player null) there isn't really another solution short of finding a way to stay away from other players if that makes any sense. By no means was I saying people should switch to open but I am saying it's part of the game and thus shouldn't be something people get particularly mad at unless maybe it was the same dude over and over waiting outside your home station for you too leave. Sorry if you took offense to how I said it but I didn't mean it the way you took it I'm just generally blunt

And I did suggest another option as being interdicted can be fairly easily avoided by a pilot who knows the signs that someone's about to do it too them i.e. watch your sensors don't let anyone directly behind you and if they do manage to get you with it anyways just do everything possible to escape and never submit

 

[Asp Explorer]

but fact is clearly some people just hate the fact that another player could kill them at any time thus the only fix for it atm is simply switch to solo

Some people are attempting to play multiplayer games on routers that are not worthy of being called potatoes. Is that their fault? If you sincerely believe it is, then please buy them new routers Oh, and a decent ISP subscription while you are at it.

 

[DsG Offensive]

Some people are attempting to play multiplayer games on routers that are not worthy of being called potatoes. Is that their fault? If you sincerely believe it is, then please buy them new routers Oh, and a decent ISP subscription while you are at it.

What in any way does what I said have to do with people's Internet? That's a whole completely other issue and as far as combat logging goes I know I've read they are working on a way to track the activity

 

[Asp Explorer]

What in any way does what I said have to do with people's Internet? That's a whole completely other issue and as far as combat logging goes I know I've read they are working on a way to track the activity

You are playing a game with other people. Their internet connections entirely decide your experience with them.

 

[Ving]

Personally killing any player without good cause is just griefing not pirating but sadly to say there's no way to eliminate that from the game as a whole short of taking away PVE fire (making all damage to a players ship from another player null) there isn't really another solution...

There are solutions, as posted in many threads on these forums:

- implement a proper / appropriate security response for ppl who commit murder
- implement a player bounty / mission system that makes it easier for players to hunt down pirates (BB missions to hunt players, better System tracking of players, guaranteed instancing of pirates with players who have taken the mission to hunt them)
- more long term enhancements, like NPC security wings available for hire by traders
- etc.

The problem is that the security response, in its current form, is woefully inadequate.

 

[CaptainCasualty]

It has been my experience that most players that play pirates do so because of their real life disposition.... This is why I see a greater % of pirates that combat log than traders... When I have hunted pirates I find more of them combat log. I just figured that if they are going to get a big ship and pick on a defenseless (aka easy kill with no chance for repercussions) that same mentality tells them it's ok to just log when they are about to get killed. There are some that play it as a role, but in most cases (like many other games) they see it as easy $.

 

[Distance]

We've suffered this for 7 months in open on pc and fd don't seem to do anything about the reports.

If you want to name and shame players who combat log the only place you can do it is on reddit.

 

[Asp Explorer]

It has been my experience that most players that play pirates do so because of their real life disposition.... This is why I see a greater % of pirates that combat log than traders... When I have hunted pirates I find more of them combat log. I just figured that if they are going to get a big ship and pick on a defenseless (aka easy kill with no chance for repercussions) that same mentality tells them it's ok to just log when they are about to get killed. There are some that play it as a role, but in most cases (like many other games) they see it as easy $.

You can always just block or lulzban players who don't play in a way that fits your playstyle. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making a mindless pew-pew puke cry and RAEG

Pew-Pew - I SHUDDA bl0s u up coz us it in MY SPAEC ana I OWNZ ITZ!

Player - I'm terribly sorry. Perhaps there is someone over there who cares?

Pew-Pre - I OWNZ U U <UDP connection failed>

Player - What a Windows ME - another IP for the grinder

 

[mavrac]

You can always just block or lulzban players who don't play in a way that fits your playstyle. There is absolutely nothing wrong with making a mindless pew-pew puke cry and RAEG

Pew-Pew - I SHUDDA bl0s u up coz us it in MY SPAEC ana I OWNZ ITZ!

Player - I'm terribly sorry. Perhaps there is someone over there who cares?

Pew-Pre - I OWNZ U U <UDP connection failed>

Player - What a Windows ME - another IP for the grinder

um did anyone else not understand like half of this? ^^^^^

 

[Stealth Gamer92]

um did anyone else not understand like half of this? ^^^^^

It's CoD speak a.k.a. giberish.

 

[mavrac]

It's CoD speak a.k.a. giberish.

Oh haha no wonder i didn't understand it. Thanks for the clarification stealth

 

[Asp Explorer]

um did anyone else not understand like half of this? ^^^^^

Dude, do you even UDP?

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It's CoD speak a.k.a. giberish.

I don't even play CoD Unless it's RoboCoD of course!

[video=youtube;xSFOcTtYPrA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSFOcTtYPrA[/video]

 

[mavrac]

Dude, do you even UDP?

Dude first probably not. Second don't even know what that means.

 

[Stealth Gamer92]

Oh haha no wonder i didn't understand it. Thanks for the clarification stealth

I only undersood it because I dabble in Halo MP time to time, & the two have very similar dialect's. I stoped though after running into 1 too many 12 yr olds cursing worse than I've ever heard before in my life, but they do actually sound about like he wrote.

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I don't even play CoD Unless it's RoboCoD of course!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSFOcTtYPrA

I want to play Mega Man after watching that, it's been far too long since I've played some classic's.

 

[Asp Explorer]

Dude first probably not. Second don't even know what that means.

Ok - lets start here. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_Datagram_Protocol

 

[Sire]

I used a less offensive word to describe ppl that disconnect, yet the MOD's flagged me seriously? And not this guy?. I would like to say that if someone is trading and you attack them to steal their goods. Who really is the coward? My issue and this has been common. I pirate hunt with friends. We wait for you all to interdict, follow your wake, and 3 pythons 1 vulture go in for the kill. Now, the pirate is performing an act that is not honorable, its thievery. Said pirate is picking on a ship that is not a fighter, and most likely doesn't have weapons. More than half the time these pirates disconnect. Hmmm so pirates can dish it out, but can't take it. We will continue to hunt pirates in this way. Pirating is not a good way to make money, and many are murderers. Way I look at it is, make it frustrating to be a pirate and maybe it'll stop....

To all traders. We will help. If you're running rares let me know. We will cover you. If you decide you want to pirate hunt as well and have a conda, clipper, FDL, python, vulture, or ASP. Geared out. Then join in on the fun making the black a safer place for everyone.

Sorry but I think that you are a little bit confused because you are comparing different things: piracy within the game is role playing such as playing as a thief in police&thieves kid game; have you ever played it? Did you use to blame you little friend because he was playing as the thief saying "I am the strong arm of the law and I will punish you for your dihonourable behaviour"? So you can't judge a player who's playing as a pirate because he is doing nothing wrong and whoever decide to trade in open play has to accept piracy as the risky part of it while combat logging is cheating and it's not role playing but it's an illegal way to avoid an unpleasant part of the whole.
So, seek and destroy pirates but never say that PCs are evil because they role play piracy.

 

[mavrac]

Sorry but I think that you are a little bit confused because you are comparing different things: piracy within the game is role playing such as playing as a thief in police&thieves kid game; have you ever played it? Did you use to blame you little friend because he was playing as the thief saying "I am the strong arm of the law and I will punish you for your dihonourable behaviour"? So you can't judge a player who's playing as a pirate because he is doing nothing wrong and whoever decide to trade in open play has to accept piracy as the risky part of it while combat logging is cheating and it's not role playing but it's an illegal way to avoid an unpleasant part of the whole.
So, seek and destroy pirates but never say that PCs are evil because they role play piracy.

And it would seem sir you did not completely read what I've posted about the topic. Ill reiterate it for you.....

Though i do not enjoy PVP i do enjoy an environment that is composed of both human and NPC. Currently on xbox, we have no alternative. I am not alone in that many others would much rather enjoy this game minus the PVP aspect. Playing with others is fun.

Now that doesn't mean that i will do nothing about it.

So as I've stated before and now 12/29 pirates have learned. 12 being the number of pirates that died and took it like a man/women. 29 represent the entire sum of stopped thieving actions. Meaning that 17 of the total 29 have completely disconnected before the 3 Pythons and 1 viper could finish the job. These actions last a matter of seconds and most disconnect the moment their shields drop and they see the fleet moving in on them. We fly around looking for ppl that feel the need to play this way. Thats cool its in the game, and said ppl do not care if it detracts from the experience of the person they are attacking. Just like its in the game to legally bounty hunt, so interdict, thats cool which then means said pirate just committed a crime making him/her wanted, and i can kill legally.

Friend there is always two sides to a coin and i am always on the good side. Make fun of me all you want. I stand by my morals in all that i do. So yes i was always the cop in cops and robbers. Thats why i joined the military. Its just who i am and how i was built.

 

[mavrac]

It has been my experience that most players that play pirates do so because of their real life disposition.... This is why I see a greater % of pirates that combat log than traders... When I have hunted pirates I find more of them combat log. I just figured that if they are going to get a big ship and pick on a defenseless (aka easy kill with no chance for repercussions) that same mentality tells them it's ok to just log when they are about to get killed. There are some that play it as a role, but in most cases (like many other games) they see it as easy $.

Though what you say i agree to. You will be shot down in droves. But there is scientific evidence that ppl drawn to such acts have something different about them then those that are not. But I'm not here to play doctor. But would like to see private servers open up soon so we can do away with the issue and conversation all together. We have it in pc it would be nice to have it here

Best times I've had in Elite Pc was in PVE private servers

 

[Asp Explorer]

You will be shot down in droves.

And the IP's that do so will be lulzbanned - and their sweet, sweet tears of RAEG laughed at

 

[Distance]

And the IP's that do so will be lulzbanned - and their sweet, sweet tears of RAEG laughed at

Come on Asp, you always troll the other threads with your networking stuff and sure it's true but this is a serious in game issue that has plagued pc and has obviously started to become an issue for the xbox players.

It's not just an issue that affects players being shot up by random pkers it affects pvp bounty hunting and legitimate piracy.