East India Company buys out Zemina Torval's shares and withdraws financial support. [RP & Non-RP]

they are'nt holding anything up... we slipped down... they jumped ship... easy

I doubt slipping down had anything to do with it - hadn't it been for EIC Torval would have never risen in the first place and all that she had been left with would have been a bunch of useless tools running back and forth between Jeterait and Synteini like robots.

Anyway - can't really blame them. The only really useful bonus she provides is the 10% slave discount and you don't have to be pledged to get that (the trade bonus would have been nice if the best trades wouldn't have been towards systems outside of her influence for the most part).

Made the same decision last week when the mining lance hit.
Didn't make the decision based on the module, but it was the straw that broke the camels back - it was more fortifiying the same systems again and again - much better after they vastly increased the amounts of merits necessary and the more you expand, the more you grind - "Sisyphean Task, the game"...

Alarmclocking every thursday morning for years to come? Probably not.

Originally planned to return after I have all the modules I wanted, but I doubt there'll be much to return to in three months (I'll be glad to be proven wrong though).

So cheers EIC - it was fun while it lasted.

 
No you got that all wrong, andyraptor with a million merits every week carried torval to the top by himself and we've all been enjoying a piggyback ride from him
 
Tried to influence? We have influenced it, and also lost? We took Torval to second place while at the same time being an abyssmal small part of the playerbase. We did this by playing smart and by the rules and communicate well with other non guild players even though those tools don't really exist. And nobody cares? Checked the reddit thread lately?

here you go CAPT KIRK

complete with royal "WE"

without this tiny guild, or whatever they call themselves, a entire PP faction goes to the wall... you are telling me that a group of "Open" players did all that?... don't worry we now have the "Lone Puppies" or summut strutting around trying the same and influence a large group with minor open play nonsense... wanna bet it will be more of the same?

I'd rather watch the frantic politics of Brussels taking over Greece than listen to a bunch of self empowered game players stomping about.....

it's a video game !!!!

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No you got that all wrong, andyraptor with a million merits every week carried torval to the top by himself and we've all been enjoying a piggyback ride from him

I've got about £4.50 you can have if you're desperate for a packet of s mate ?
 
I'd rather watch the frantic politics of Brussels taking over Greece than listen to a bunch of self empowered game players stomping about.....

it's a video game !!!!

But still it is undeniable that the EIC had a big impact on Torvals progress. Maybe we won't see a big difference without the EIC but they are not the first group to step out of PP. This alone should be a big sign that there is something wrong.
 
Iamlegion speaks at least for me as we, so no royal we at all. But I think this person has received enough attention now.
 
But still it is undeniable that the EIC had a big impact on Torvals progress. Maybe we won't see a big difference without the EIC but they are not the first group to step out of PP. This alone should be a big sign that there is something wrong.

Might also be a reason that FD are REALLY, REALLY against any form of organised formal clan or guild in the game as well ?

just a thought

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Iamlegion speaks at least for me as we, so no royal we at all. But I think this person has received enough attention now.

the users of this forum are less than 5% of the playerbase so you're talking to a very small puddle...

have fun :)
 
Yeah right, power play requires massive coordination but FD doesnt want organisation in it. I cant read another post of this
 
Yeah right, power play requires massive coordination but FD doesnt want organisation in it. I cant read another post of this

it just requires that players have fun.... bottom line

u want that sub or not ?... otherwise I'll treat the dog to some nice biscuits :D
 
Might also be a reason that FD are REALLY, REALLY against any form of organised formal clan or guild in the game as well ?

just a thought
Oh, are they? As far as i have seen the comments to such organization they welcomed it. Just because they have not implemented such a mechanic in the game does not tell the opposite and i still don't understand why they have not implemented such a mechanic.

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it just requires that players have fun....
The only thing that made fun in PP was meeting new faces, joining them und trying to defend against others, or hunt others down (PP related). That was the only positive effect i really can remember- identifying the cmdr on his alignment. Everything else really made no fun but was necessary to do to some point.
 
The suggestions etc is going to be adressed in a letter to Fdev directly as we are already in talks with them about giving them feedback etc.

The suggestions etc is going to be adressed in a letter to Fdev directly as we are already in talks with them about giving them feedback etc.
And this was far from a ragequit, we noticed that our members played less and less and discussed how to solve it and this was the solution we concluded was the best one as PP was driving our guild apart, and it has torn a few of the largest groups apart before us i think i know of at least 5 major groups that has either stopped playing or just got ripped apart.

So, this whole post is just a way to let us players know you are going to talk some sense into FD? Or is it just some way to seek attention for your group and give you some leverage with FD? Either way, this thread is useless. You offer nothing for us to discuss but your sense of importance. Nothing new, big heads looking for a big audience.

Good luck in being in talks to have talks.
 
Wow. This is really not a very nice post. First you assault them personally by wishing they were gone from the game because they used valid game mechanics and afterwards you accuse them of cheating without posting any evidence. Come on. You can do better.
When I read such drivel you really make me wish you'd remove yourself from the game.

Well , (least this descend into another slanging match :eek:) , The EIC blockade at Liaedin was alledgedly to stop a bunch of feds from taking over the system.
Their way of doing the blockade was to interdict ships and shoot them down, not stop them and say "This system is under blockade, jump out or we'll blow you up". and it made no difference to the feds because they were running missions in solo and thus were'nt subject to the blockade.

Its further discussed here
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=145899

As for the combat logging I know what I saw and I know who it was because him and 2 EIC buddies shot me down about 1/2 hr later...

Bill

Just wish I'd had the recorders running :(
 
Maybe power play is terrible,complain all you like but i see very few people actualy contributing any ideas on how it maybe improved,you dont have to work on powerplay so saying it should be better is easy because you dont have to come up with any ideas.

plus lets face it what EVER Frontier come up with someone will complain

plus certain groups will always want to force the Game in a direction that is part of there agenda what ever that group PVPers,PVEers ,solo,open,EVE fans,Combat fans whatever.

Powerplay should pander to NO group in particular so again whatever they come up with this group or that group will not be happy
 
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Maybe power play is terrible,complain all you like but i see very few people actualy contributing any ideas on how it maybe improved,you dont have to work on powerplay so saying it should be better is easy because you dont have to come up with any ideas.
I think that it is not always our part to bring in the ideas for issues. If the movement in the direction of leaving PP will get big enough it is on FD to take actions. There have already been several threads and posts with ideas, also we had the beta where everyone said that they should extend it. Bringing out 1.3 without PP was mentioned a lot of times. No we have PP out since a couple of weeks, changes in the rules cycle after cycle, people getting mad on FD about it and people quitting with it.
Though there surely are plenty of posts that might have been formulated a bit different, i guess no one is complaining or even ranting without reason and i guess that no one on this board wants a anything bad for Elite.
 
Its a shame EiC is withdrawing from PP.I am not a member, but I read the Torval reddit,they made good plans for us folks who wanted to help our power and get merits.But I understand why, while PP is not that bad, but the merit grind is too big, after 3 weeks I simply dont have the will anymore. Gonna grind up to 10k merits this week and then let it lapse slowly.

I think lowering the merit decay alot would be a good start, but theyre actualy "fixing" it next week to be even worse then now.
Some of the powers bonuses could be tweaked abit to be better,and modules.
 
here you go CAPT KIRK

complete with royal "WE"

without this tiny guild, or whatever they call themselves, a entire PP faction goes to the wall... you are telling me that a group of "Open" players did all that?... don't worry we now have the "Lone Puppies" or summut strutting around trying the same and influence a large group with minor open play nonsense... wanna bet it will be more of the same?

I'd rather watch the frantic politics of Brussels taking over Greece than listen to a bunch of self empowered game players stomping about.....

it's a video game !!!!

Yeah - it's a video game and whilst I've contributed to Torval and had my fun delivering 8000+ tons in last minute thursday 5 AM ops just to make the other side pay, it's just not worth it in the long run.

I'm still pledged because it would be stupid not to take the 50 mill without having to do anything until next thursday.

As a matter of fact I stopped investing last week - I just accumulated too many merits before that and my decicion obviously doesn't have anything to do with EICs (which I'm not affiliated with other than reading their reddit threads).

Judging from your last statement, you must be Greek, so be Leonidas and give me something to defend when I return (or not).
 
If FD could make the payouts in power play correlates to the number of the controlled systems (the more systems your power control, the higher is your salary), and CC surplus for the week (if your CC is below threshold it will have adverse effects on your salary as well), and lastly the position of the power. This way, people will have incentive and rewarded if their power is doing well and expand in a more "strategic" manner, not just grind the merits blindly.

There's already plenty of nice ideas to counter the PP grind in the forum already, so i'm not going to touch that.
 
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