Should have just combat logged.

im not a kid and i have no interest socializing or interacting with any cmdr i see as either flagged as wanted or flagged as a mission target. nor do i see any reason for giving then an explanation for my actions, but now it appears that this is wrong, and when interdicting and cmdr i am expected to have a cup of tea and slice of cake with them before doing anything, or being 'sportsman like' and allow them the time to give me a very bad day.

it's the wild west out there in ed land people. shoot first and then shoot again. that's what i say.

If you don't like it, there's always Solo mode.

I'm just.... Saiyan....
:D
 
If you don't like it, there's always Solo mode.

I'm just.... Saiyan....
:D
:D

i just couldn't bring myself to play solo. i don't see the point. i love seeing the hollow squares light up on my radar, wondering what they're doing, where they're going, watching them line up for an interdiction...!

we live for this stuff! this is why we play it!!

never play with something you can't afford to lose.
 
Ooh lookee!
Another poster who forgets to read the whole post/thread before commenting. I figred there would be at least one. Lol!

If you'd bothered, you would have reailised that the whole point was that Combat Logging wasn't even considered until as an after thought and even then was dismissed as being a non-option.
Do try and keep up, old chap...

I read it and specifically mentioned the title as such.
 
Unfortunately forum rules prohibit any appropriate response.

Forum rules does allow me though to say when you only selectively quote part of a person's full sentence and context of statement, it just makes you look like fabricating a point (e.g. Lie) rather than use the entirety of what was said against them.

the context of my saying only i am right was obviously a dig at the respondent who claimed he was right because he said my argument was flawed, right after i'd pointed out the flaws in his prior reply

full context matters; selective truncation of a person's statement is as cheap as tabloid reporters who do the same truncation of quotes
 
Co-operative play occurs BETWEEN the modes and WITHIN Private Group...not WITHIN Open. Open, flags you to be seen by all players...good and bad...moral and immoral.

If you want co-operative play Play with like minded people in Group...or work with shared goals from within solo.

Do not expect rainbows and unicorns in Open..the unicorns have been killed, gutted, and eaten..and the rainbows used as toilet paper to clean up the excretions the next day.

your statement has as much validity as me just saying the reverse - if you want ganker pew pew play, play with like minded people in group or private mode.

you can have your own little lord of the flies commune there. Society always segregates the sociopaths, not the other way around. That you rationalize it is ok or different because the social interaction is online vs face to face is just sad.
 
Not sure what contradiction you're referring to. If OP had said he was going to hunt down random people as revenge for his opponent fairly beating him, ok - that'd be a contradiction.

morals ... everybody has one, but you are not supposed to switch between them at pleasure. that's immoral!! :D

among rational people, specially if they claim to be acting morally (?) i would expect anything immoral to be considered just that, regardless of any justification one might to bring up to make an exception, like for instance revenge. since you can't act morally while doing something immoral, such thing as "moral revenge" isn't even logically possible. unless you are chuck norris, and i doubt op is. chuck doesn't fly clippers ...
 
morals ... everybody has one, but you are not supposed to switch between them at pleasure. that's immoral!! :D

among rational people, specially if they claim to be acting morally (?) i would expect anything immoral to be considered just that, regardless of any justification one might to bring up to make an exception, like for instance revenge. since you can't act morally while doing something immoral, such thing as "moral revenge" isn't even logically possible. unless you are chuck norris, and i doubt op is. chuck doesn't fly clippers ...

It probably helps to realise that whatever set of morals I have, they are governed by my own rules. In this particular case this includes a perfectly justifiable desire to respond to an attack with an appropriate counterresponse.
your error is in attempting to apply your own ruleset to someone elses moral standpoint and therefore, your argument is both automatically flawed and more importantle biased. It doesnt work that way. If you want to comment on someone's moral set, you have to abide by the rules that they have set for themselves. Otherwise you are simply trying to justify your own rules.
tell Kettle I said hi, by the way. :)

oh, and for the record, Chuck Norris is my dad. He lent me his Clipper....
 
im not a kid and i have no interest socializing or interacting with any cmdr i see as either flagged as wanted or flagged as a mission target. nor do i see any reason for giving then an explanation for my actions, but now it appears that this is wrong, and when interdicting and cmdr i am expected to have a cup of tea and slice of cake with them before doing anything, or being 'sportsman like' and allow them the time to give me a very bad day.

it's the wild west out there in ed land people. shoot first and then shoot again. that's what i say.

That's what I mean by kid: you only care about you.
By the way, you don't need to give em cake. Just a simple macro would be enough to tell em "you're an enemy to me, and you're going down".

After all, your little bit of fun is going to cost the other player hours of playtime in rebuy costs. By the way, is your in-game name the same? If so, what system do you 'hang out'? I'd love to have some 'cake' with you.

the cake is a lie
 
they dont have to give you any satisfaction. its called pvp. if he wants to be a pirate then thats what pirates do.

try to remember this is an online game and ppl will kill you just for the fun of watching you blow and listening to your tears on this forum, thats not griefing, thats doing what the game mechanics lets you do.
 
they dont have to give you any satisfaction. its called pvp. if he wants to be a pirate then thats what pirates do.

try to remember this is an online game and ppl will kill you just for the fun of watching you blow and listening to your tears on this forum, thats not griefing, thats doing what the game mechanics lets you do.

This, pretty much. Same people that will flee anything they cannot bully. True 'PvP' players those...

I wish that when you die, you could pay some extra insurance to put your cargo+rebuy cost as Bounty on the killer.
 
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SYSTEM JUMP, SYSTEM JUMP, SYSTEM JUMP, SYSTEM JUMP...is there an echo in here????? (avoid mass lock and it doesn't matter if he can keep up with you or not)
 
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That's what I mean by kid: you only care about you.
By the way, you don't need to give em cake. Just a simple macro would be enough to tell em "you're an enemy to me, and you're going down".
Not many players know, or even bother to set up macros. I didn't know how to until I saw a forum post about it. You ever try to bounty hunt or pirate and type without macros? It's near impossible to type while following a target, Doubly so if dont use a keyboard and mouse to fly.
 
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Not many players know, or even bother to set up macros. I didn't know how to until I saw a forum post about it. You ever try to bounty hunt or pirate and type without macros? It's near impossible to type while following a target, Doubly so if dont use a keyboard.

...drop 20 tonnes of panties...er...I meant bounties...of forget it...PEW, PEW!
 
Not many players know, or even bother to set up macros. I didn't know how to until I saw a forum post about it. You ever try to bounty hunt or pirate and type without macros? It's near impossible to type while following a target, Doubly so if dont use a keyboard and mouse to fly.

There's also the valid point that people should not be expected to use 3rd party tools simply to assuage other people's desire for 'fair play'.
 
This, pretty much. Same people that will flee anything they cannot bully. True 'PvP' players those...

I wish that when you die, you could pay some extra insurance to put your cargo+rebuy cost as Bounty on the killer.

doesnt matter if its true pvp or not, its still pvp. maybe you should hask for FD to change game mechanics. IMO when a player starts dicting another it should count as an agression, if they had report crimes against me on then the cops should show up.

the chalenge for the pirate would be to kill the target before the cops can chase him away.
 
Just to clarify, I don't think that there is true or false PvP, its just that for some PvP is understood as a competitive fight, while for others it is understood to include/justify bullying traders and explorers.

The latter are often deliberatly using PvP in the first sense to justify their behaviour. Which simply follows from the absence of consequences from said behaviour
and the asymetry in the cost of the interaction : near zero for the attacker and very large for the victim.

The real question being : while desirable to some extent (e.g. in anarchy sys), is such bullying behaviour good for the game, given that it will push players to solo ?

If it is not, this begs the question on how to 'regulate' this kind of behaviour.

In my opinion that would come from : increased potential cost for the attacker (Bounty), graded 'wanted' status, e.g. wanted -> murderer -> terrorist/public ennemy
with appropriate responses levels from system authorities. Also the possibility to buy info about the actual location of nearby most wanted CMDR on the black market would help.
 
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Ditto. Always wondered why a player bounty was not public info, ala local/state/fed Most Wanted lists.

And you can't say inter-system FTL communications doesn't exist - there are couriers that travel between systems much like traders. So the info would be there on GalNet.

I like the idea suggested above, of having terminals we can look up player bounties, with last known location (*and updated whenever player is spotted/fined/scanned by security)
 
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