Hardware & Technical CH Pro Throttle

It will be to do with the different modes of the CH device probably (not the green, red, amber modes...the operating modes). There are three buttons on the toolbar of CH Control Manager for Off Mode, Direct Mode, and Mapped Mode. By default it is probably in Direct Mode, but if you add macros or key-presses to buttons in the CH software it will change to Mapped Mode when you Download the profile to the controller.

Direct and Mapped appear as different controllers to E: D, so if you set up the in-game bindings and then change the mode of the CH device, E: D will start with a new, empty binds file.

So, set your CH device to Mapped Mode, set-up your macros, and Download the profile to the device, and THEN configure the E: D bindings. Then you can edit the CH profile to your heart's content.

Sometimes after a re-boot the CH device will be in Direct Mode for some reason. If that happens just open your saved profile in the CH software and Download to the device again and it will re-set it to Mapped Mode.

Or use the CM Control Center software to set the default profile and operating mode.
Thank you Ving! You have no idea how much time I've spent searching the internet and various support forums to find an answer. Will be trying this again tonight. Rep to you!
 
Stupid question maybe, but can you use the CH Manager program with other joysticks/devices, or just theirs?
 
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I think you can only use the Manager program with CH products. In the program you select which of their products are to be included in a profile. Not aware of a work around to that.
 
I think you can only use the Manager program with CH products. In the program you select which of their products are to be included in a profile. Not aware of a work around to that.

Ta! And when you install their program do you get their new configuration screen (drivers) in Windows when you config a device from USB Controllers etc?
 
Not sure I completely understand the question, but here goes. You can calibrate the throttle in Windows Control Panel or you can calibrate inside the Control Manager software. But installing CM doesn't change the calibration screen in Windows Control Panel. I believe I read somewhere that CM does not include drivers for the throttle, only software to manage it. Hope this helps.
 
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The configuration software is good for adjusting the response curves of the three axes. This is particularly useful for the mini stick which doesn't centre itself that accurately, better than using a deadzone IMO.

That's the only thing I use the software for, since I have a TM16000m rather than a CH stick, I use glovepie for automation and for tying the devices together.
 
Not sure I completely understand the question, but here goes. You can calibrate the throttle in Windows Control Panel or you can calibrate inside the Control Manager software. But installing CM doesn't change the calibration screen in Windows Control Panel. I believe I read somewhere that CM does not include drivers for the throttle, only software to manage it. Hope this helps.

Oh... What do you make of this then? - http://snomhf.exofire.net/chConfig.html
 
Oh... What do you make of this then? - http://snomhf.exofire.net/chConfig.html
That's not a CH site, but give it a go. The disc and manual that came with my CH throttle gives different advice -- plug and play using Windows drivers. The back of the disc cover has a tag "This is not a driver CD". I do notice that the website you point to refers to v4.2. The latest CM version is 4.55a, so maybe those instructions you have are out of date.
 
That's not a CH site, but give it a go. The disc and manual that came with my CH throttle gives different advice -- plug and play using Windows drivers. The back of the disc cover has a tag "This is not a driver CD". I do notice that the website you point to refers to v4.2. The latest CM version is 4.55a, so maybe those instructions you have are out of date.

I don't like installing things unless I have to... So I'll just go with the 4.55a CM if I can. I assume you need that program always running if you have macros etc?
 
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That's my understanding -- that you have to fire up CM each time before starting ED. I'm hoping Ving or someone with experience will chime in here. Again, I ran into a problem (that Ving solved for me) so I stopped using CM. Now plan to try it again and set up macros for power distribution.
 
That's my understanding -- that you have to fire up CM each time before starting ED. I'm hoping Ving or someone with experience will chime in here. Again, I ran into a problem (that Ving solved for me) so I stopped using CM. Now plan to try it again and set up macros for power distribution.

Surely there must be a run at windows startup option (minimised) then?
 
That's my understanding -- that you have to fire up CM each time before starting ED. I'm hoping Ving or someone with experience will chime in here. Again, I ran into a problem (that Ving solved for me) so I stopped using CM. Now plan to try it again and set up macros for power distribution.

Glad that sorted your problem out :)

In my experience you shouldn't need to start anything when you boot up before running E: D. Most of the time I just fire up the game and everything works.

Occasionally (like once every 2 weeks or so) I will start Elite and my bindings have gone, which usually means the CH devices are in direct mode for some reason, so then I have to fire up the CH Control Manager and re-Download the profile (or hit the Mapped Mode button, but I always Download out of habit). I don't know why this happens, might just be something to do with Windows / USB. (By the way, I leave my controllers plugged in all the time)


The CM Control Center software is the little prog that runs in the taskbar but I don't have it running, although it is installed. As far as I'm aware it just provides an easier way of switching profiles & operating modes without having to open a profile in the Control Manager. If you close it it unloads from memory though, so it's not running hidden in the background or anything.

So I would say set-up your mapped profile in CM, re-bind in Elite if you need to, and then hopefully you shouldn't have to touch anything most of the time.
 
Just been reading the CM documentation...see this page for info on how the drivers work in conjunction with the Windows drivers: http://www.stickworks.com/cmoperation.htm

According to the very last bit:
Windows Startup

At Windows startup, the Control Manager defaults to "Direct" mode. Before you can use the map, the Control Manager must be set to Mapped Mode. It's not necessary to actually download the program again. That's still present, it's just turned off. You can start the Control Manager GUI and simply press the "Mapped Mode" button to get it to start running the last map downloaded. There is a small utility, CMStart, that can be run from the Windows "StartUp" menu to automatically start the map when Windows restarts. CMStart is not a resident utility, it simply runs, sends the command to activate the map, and then exits.

Another option is the CM Control Center, a separate utility that ships with the Control Manager. It can be run at StartUp and set to put the Control Manager into any mode that you desire. It also has compile and download capability, a "launcher" that will download the map and then start the game for you, and several other functions that you might find useful. The Control Center is a resident "tool tray" utility. The CM Control Center has it's own Users Guide, you can refer to that for a detailed description of the functions that it provides.

I'm not sure why mine normally works on start-up without having to do anything, it may be because I have a combined device configured so the Throttle and Fighterstick appear as a single virtual device and the drivers for that persist across re-boots or something. Just guessing though.

Anyway, adding CMStart to you Windows Startup is the easiest way to activate mapped mode...you don't need to give it any command line arguments, just run it and it will activate the last map that was downloaded.
 
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To set the throttle so middle is zero thrust, and forward is forward and reverse is reverse, is that purely a config in ED + a dead zone... Or is there a config in the CM Manager tool too?
 
To set the throttle so middle is zero thrust, and forward is forward and reverse is reverse, is that purely a config in ED + a dead zone... Or is there a config in the CM Manager tool too?

Purely ED. I just got my Pro Throttle, and started configuring it, and this is how I got it configured.

Using this thing will take some getting used to...
 
I got rid of my fighterstick and went for the MSFFB2 as its so much better. I dont play this game anymore is its shallow at the moment. Waiting for gamescom
 
Purely ED. I just got my Pro Throttle, and started configuring it, and this is how I got it configured.

Using this thing will take some getting used to...

I've put a pair of 3mm velco fluff pads half way along which seems to give a nice detent feel.
 
I've put a pair of 3mm velco fluff pads half way along which seems to give a nice detent feel.

I thought about something along those lines.

The unit is quite a bit larger than I expected. And the number of buttons is a little overwhelming. Both of these are a good thing, of course :)
 
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Doh! Plumbed in the new CH Throttle, and it's not working :(

The CH Manger shows all the buttons and mini-joy working, but the actual throttle itself isn't.

Tried re-installing (without antivirus) over and over, and nada!

I think it's faulty :(
 
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