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How strange, two more pages of posts and as yet, no one can explain why they want Guilds or Guild owned stations. One can only come to the conclusion they don't know why they want them either
The New Guilds and Player Owned Stations Discussion Thread.
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How strange, two more pages of posts and as yet, no one can explain why they want Guilds or Guild owned stations. One can only come to the conclusion they don't know why they want them either
It's just a joke man, laugh a little!
I could have just said "well the other voters all really want to hang out together and play with each other", but I thought it was a little tasteless and immature.
There are 290+ pages of this on another thread already.
Have a look see.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8368
Have a look see.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=8368
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Because not one of them is, say, happy with the idea behind a private group option. Because there isn't a single no vote because they dread seeing rampant, militant balkanisation that too often comes when you combine open, free PvP with independent player groups. Because none of the naysayers possibly just think that handing over control to player-led power blocs would be bordering on suicidal and certainly irrational for the open half of the game even without considering player controlled stations.
Again, nothing that the innocent, eager for social interaction players want -NEEDS- guilds or station owning or anything else proposed or discussed here. The fact that there are dozens of extant groups serving all kinds of different goals and styles speaks quite clearly why there is simply no -NEED- for it. Tools are out there, the players can easily find and use them and have all the social interactivity they want without needing dev time, without needing an exhaustive bug testing trial, without introducing all the negatives that a reasonably large and passionate group of players justifiably foresees, for absolutely zero net gain.
Players create the only interesting events in the game: Lugh, Mercs of Mikunn, Unidentified Artefact (Artifact) research, typo-free Galnet stories, Code / EIC / etc subplots
What do solo players create: "If Frontier adds guilds I'll quit!"
Come on guys, can't we all just get along and add guilds?
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Fact: If a solo player quits the game no one will notice.
Fact: If content creating groups quit the game it's an even more empty game.
What do solo players create: "If Frontier adds guilds I'll quit!"
Come on guys, can't we all just get along and add guilds?
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Fact: If a solo player quits the game no one will notice.
Fact: If content creating groups quit the game it's an even more empty game.
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How strange, two more pages of posts and as yet, no one can explain why they want Guilds or Guild owned stations. One can only come to the conclusion they don't know why they want them either
Also strange that no one has a valid reason why they don't want guilds.
I voted no. Sorry, but I deal with enough towering egos all day at work and do not have any desire to do so when relaxing at night. I can just see all the 14 year old (be it in literal terms or levels of mental development) "little Napoleons" trying to order us all around - no thanks. Sorry to be so blunt but the last thing we need is EVE 2 as we already have the abject misery of EVE 1. At any rate if ED goes down this path I am out of here.
Neckbeards, I heard its because other people don't like neckbeards.
Been here since beta and agree
I don't like crunchy peanut butter. Do I really need to validate why I don't like crunchy peanut butter? I like smooth peanut butter just fine.
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Been here since beta and disagree.
Please desist, amigo - that's twice I've had to go and raid the larder for bread and peanut butter (the smooth variant)!
Again, I want guilds (or whatever you want to call them) for the simple reason to have a tool ingame to organise stuff. A chatchannel and a guildtag would be enough, I don't want some fancy tools or the ability to form larger fleets than wings (I wouldn't mind those though, if the later is available to not-guilded persons as well).
I find it funny, talking about balkanization, when we have just lone people all over space. I personally am tired to have to use out of game tools to get something done. Changing windows surely helps with immersion.
And about the 14 year old Napoleons, who cares ? Who, being mature, is going to follow their lead. It usually isn't the way that you can't leave a guild.
Oh, feared they're going to block an entrance to a system and shoot everything on sight ? As if they couldn't do that with out of game tools already. No clue, why you guys are frightened.
And to the guy stating, why the people don't do research before buying a game. This is the first MMO I bought that doesn't have player organisations, so I didn't expect that.
I find it funny, talking about balkanization, when we have just lone people all over space. I personally am tired to have to use out of game tools to get something done. Changing windows surely helps with immersion.
And about the 14 year old Napoleons, who cares ? Who, being mature, is going to follow their lead. It usually isn't the way that you can't leave a guild.
Oh, feared they're going to block an entrance to a system and shoot everything on sight ? As if they couldn't do that with out of game tools already. No clue, why you guys are frightened.
And to the guy stating, why the people don't do research before buying a game. This is the first MMO I bought that doesn't have player organisations, so I didn't expect that.
Any chance of a breakdown at some point please, with / without "zero day accounts"? if its possible.
Thank you, finally someone tried to explain why the want guilds, although Bragor really only wants the ability to have a tag and a working communications system. I have no problem with that but that isn't what the poll asked or what a lot of those in favour have been asking for is it.
This has already been discussed, repeatedly, if you care to read back. Ultimately the consensus is 'it doesn't matter.' Like the old poll.
Besides, many of us did invite friends to come vote, it wasn't a threat.
Reasons why guilds and player owned stations would be great:
Right after the game finishes loading from logging in, my pilot hits the light switch to his left. The pitch black darkness surrounding my ship is slowly lit up by a parade of flickering fluorescent lights. The chipped paint of my Python reveals the worn travels she's gone through. What was a completely dark hangar is now a gritty, grimy, and gray jumble of station parts thrown together. Small clouds of atmosphere slowly drift through the zero-g environment.
A burst of air coughs out of the rickety vents as I hit the return to surface button. Air is sucked out with great force as the air seal is broken, not having installed an atmosphere shield yet. My D-class hangar bay creaks under the massive weight as it propels me to the surface. A long launch tunnel comes into view, with a small rectangle opening just big enough for a medium ship. As my asteroid hangar slowly spins I take a moment to watch the sun rise above the gas giant's swirling storms in the distance.
"Commander Vincent, hey man. We need to go now!" a voice awakens me from my stupor. It's one of my guildmates. "I just got a high paying mission and need your help, we only need one more for a full wing!".
I push to talk a quick reply. "Roger, lets do this." I navigate through comms and wing up, and set a course to his current system without opening the galaxy map. Time to launch.
A large smile stretches across my face as I hit the launch button. "Preparing to launch in 5..." electric magnets begin to purr beneath me "4...3...2...1!" The magnets have reached a deafening crescendo hum.
"LAUNCH!" I'm stuck to the back of my chair as a massive boom from the electrocatapult accelerates me to over 500 m/s. Streaks of light which were once the docking nav lights race past me in seconds and suddenly I'm outside of my station. A thunderous boost from my thrusters signals my station to lock itself up as I fly out of mass lock range.
As I look back at my station in my rear view camera fixated below my scanner, I receive one last comms from my station: "Fly safe, commander."
And then, that beautiful voice reaches my ears. "Ready to engage. 4, 3, 2, 1..."
Right after the game finishes loading from logging in, my pilot hits the light switch to his left. The pitch black darkness surrounding my ship is slowly lit up by a parade of flickering fluorescent lights. The chipped paint of my Python reveals the worn travels she's gone through. What was a completely dark hangar is now a gritty, grimy, and gray jumble of station parts thrown together. Small clouds of atmosphere slowly drift through the zero-g environment.
A burst of air coughs out of the rickety vents as I hit the return to surface button. Air is sucked out with great force as the air seal is broken, not having installed an atmosphere shield yet. My D-class hangar bay creaks under the massive weight as it propels me to the surface. A long launch tunnel comes into view, with a small rectangle opening just big enough for a medium ship. As my asteroid hangar slowly spins I take a moment to watch the sun rise above the gas giant's swirling storms in the distance.
"Commander Vincent, hey man. We need to go now!" a voice awakens me from my stupor. It's one of my guildmates. "I just got a high paying mission and need your help, we only need one more for a full wing!".
I push to talk a quick reply. "Roger, lets do this." I navigate through comms and wing up, and set a course to his current system without opening the galaxy map. Time to launch.
A large smile stretches across my face as I hit the launch button. "Preparing to launch in 5..." electric magnets begin to purr beneath me "4...3...2...1!" The magnets have reached a deafening crescendo hum.
"LAUNCH!" I'm stuck to the back of my chair as a massive boom from the electrocatapult accelerates me to over 500 m/s. Streaks of light which were once the docking nav lights race past me in seconds and suddenly I'm outside of my station. A thunderous boost from my thrusters signals my station to lock itself up as I fly out of mass lock range.
As I look back at my station in my rear view camera fixated below my scanner, I receive one last comms from my station: "Fly safe, commander."
And then, that beautiful voice reaches my ears. "Ready to engage. 4, 3, 2, 1..."
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