Exactly. The main game must be funded somehow. Star Citizen chose to do it by charging Earth money for starships, Elite does it by creating game modes to attract different kinds of customer. In the end what it means is that the "real" Elite gets more funding. I don't see myself playing CQC - I hated Descent and this looks pretty similar, but if it means the parts of Elite that I do like get written then so much the better.
10 min Summary on CQC (and a look at the Condor) - The things Frontier have told us...
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Exactly. The main game must be funded somehow. Star Citizen chose to do it by charging Earth money for starships, Elite does it by creating game modes to attract different kinds of customer. In the end what it means is that the "real" Elite gets more funding. I don't see myself playing CQC - I hated Descent and this looks pretty similar, but if it means the parts of Elite that I do like get written then so much the better.
dev comunication always rises when they made an important milestone and crunchtime is over for some days untill the next milestone has to be reached
so yes thats promising ^^
CQC is a fast track to getting some income. FDev need that income right now, so this is a short-term priority. Fair enough. The good things will come mid to longer term. I'm sure this time next year the game will be in a good place and that strong income avenues will have been established. Win-win for all.
I watched the first few minutes of the highlights video thinking this could be some fun!
Then he mentioned the power ups... oh dear... Stop the video and wait for the next add-on game which may well involve running and jumping on platforms to rescue a Princess who has been kidnapped again while collecting CR's but set on different stations just to keep it feeling like the base game.
Thanks but no thanks.
Then he mentioned the power ups... oh dear... Stop the video and wait for the next add-on game which may well involve running and jumping on platforms to rescue a Princess who has been kidnapped again while collecting CR's but set on different stations just to keep it feeling like the base game.
Thanks but no thanks.
Same here. I saw that and thought, "Oh dear". Did he find the magic diamond in the hidden castle, too?
Overcharged beams! that is all.
CQC is not my thing either and most likely I will never participate. I would not miss it if it wasn't there, but I believe it might be good for the game in general. I have to say though that CQC has nothing to do whatsoever with the Elite universe. It is a very gamey addition and I am glad it is a separate module.
Even though I stopped my personal involvement with Powerplay I still think it is an important addition to the ED universe.
The political layer it adds to the universe is needed. PP does need some tweaks, refinements and improvements, but I am confident it will be developed further.
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woot? Actually i think the powerups and tunnels and interactable doors are what makes cqc quite unique and challenging and the fights much more fun and tactical.
Same here, COMBAT, COMBAT, COMBAT. Is that all ED can offer no adventure.
That looks like its going to be awesome fun.
Jees, you're a barrel of laughs! Lots of PC people wanted a PvP mode away from the main game, so you're entirely wrong to paint this as some XBox kiddies game forced on people by MS.
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doing combat for xbone is just the right decision. it will generate money for fdev and money for fdev is good FOR ALL OF US.
Nice post and thank you for your time Granite.
It is clear to understand why this is a separate mode, it would be great to see this incorporated into the main game on PC/Mac. If there were identical CQC areas dotted around the Galaxy (to save on travelling huge distances mainly). You know.....immersion and all that.
It is clear to understand why this is a separate mode, it would be great to see this incorporated into the main game on PC/Mac. If there were identical CQC areas dotted around the Galaxy (to save on travelling huge distances mainly). You know.....immersion and all that.
As much as I'm a fan of ObsidianAnt's, the CQC looks spectacularly silly. Inconsequential, disconnected bolt-ons are apparently the way this game is going to live on (think 'life support') which makes me regret the decision to call it quits even less.
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why this obsession to link an extra game to the main game? its seperated, play it or not but to connect this to your decision not to play the main game anymore is just plain silly.
Because well integrated parts create synergy and thus pitch sales, while making spin offs delays the development progress of initially planned features. To be fair spin offs pitch sales too, but in inorganic way - think of hardcore driving game, where developers sink months of time and effort to create a casino mini-game (test drive unlimited 2 would be an example). If a racing sim gamer wants to play poker he will play pokerstars. He bought the game to drive and enjoy content related to and centred around driving. Lack of any published plans & prioritisation doesn't add to optimism of the part of the crowd. Just an example, perhaps not a perfect one to convey the idea behind frustrations. Elite shines in it's complexity, or is supposed to, at least. Synergy between BGS, power play, gunplay, thought out missions, etc .. add value to the core product. Separating CQC doesn't add too much value there.
So, in the end, both options bring money - the former does it through DLC sales and enriches the core game, yet the latter is just an unnecessary diversion from proclaimed vision. In the eyes of a part of Elite fans anyway. Including myself.
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I think it looks amazing, and as a Descent: Underground Kickstarter who's a year away from getting that to play probably, this looks like Descent gameplay in Elite-O-Verse, which is neat. Plenty of people on here have mentioned that the combat style in Elite is somewhat limited by the lack of cover/objects to fight around, so this could be a lot of fun. The Condor looks amazing up close too. I'll be interesting to see how they balance the ship types.
From a gamer's perspective, the Xbox and PC versions are absolutely identical, and after a month or so it looks as though around 10-20,000 people are playing the Xbox version, which is impressive for the almost unheard of "console paid-for pre-release" style of game that it is. I'm playing the two equally now (differently, as I'm still at the build-up-my-Cobra stage on the Xbox one, and more immersed in PP on the PC. PP is borked on the Xbox One. Boo.), but the introduction of CQC on both platforms is a total unknown for everyone right now. After all, we have to be out of the real game to play it, so I don't really see what the core appeal of it is. But let's see how they integrate it into the system first. If we have to "Save&Quit" and move to CQC as a separate startup option I'll be downright disappointed. The opportunity to make it more "in the game" is there, but doing that without tagging it on will be a design challenge.
From a gamer's perspective, the Xbox and PC versions are absolutely identical, and after a month or so it looks as though around 10-20,000 people are playing the Xbox version, which is impressive for the almost unheard of "console paid-for pre-release" style of game that it is. I'm playing the two equally now (differently, as I'm still at the build-up-my-Cobra stage on the Xbox one, and more immersed in PP on the PC. PP is borked on the Xbox One. Boo.), but the introduction of CQC on both platforms is a total unknown for everyone right now. After all, we have to be out of the real game to play it, so I don't really see what the core appeal of it is. But let's see how they integrate it into the system first. If we have to "Save&Quit" and move to CQC as a separate startup option I'll be downright disappointed. The opportunity to make it more "in the game" is there, but doing that without tagging it on will be a design challenge.