Community Event / Creation Planning an alternative to the Buckyball Runs

No worries - Have my Bucky edition Sidewinder stashed away and am currently 36kly out scanning permit zones at BLEIA3.

Perhaps a race involving Lave/Leesti... in open. You know, the added fizz of pirates added to the mix:)
 
Perhaps a race involving Lave/Leesti... in open. You know, the added fizz of pirates added to the mix:)
Yes, Lave and Leesti are definitely part of my rares-run race. It will be a race where you pick 8 rares from a list of 16, so no system will be compulsory other than the start/finish system, but no other two systems will be as close together as Lave/Leesti, so I'd be amazed if an optimised route could avoid them.

I had planned to make the race open-mode only, but I'm now likely to have a seperate solo/private table like EZ did. The open mode race has always been the main event anyway, but it's nice to run more than one ship (and at least solo/private will allow pilots to recover their losses!)

Runners will also have to have a full hold (of rare food/drugs) at the end of the race, including at least 8 from the list, but not restricted to it. So for bigger ships it will be faster, but more dangerous going through the Old Worlds as there are so many rare foods / legal-drugs available in the cluster.

Originally I'd planned to just run a 39-Tauri to Old Worlds to 39-Tauri race, but it's kind of evolved from that as I wanted route planning to be more complex. :)
 
In the end the St Valentine's Day Regatta was only about 16 minutes (for me, anyway!).

I like the Galactic Rally idea :).
 
Glad there are ongoing efforts to preserve the tradition of the Buckyball Races under a new banner. A quick comment on the Galactic Rally suggestion: The Crab Nebula may be inaccessible for ships with a jump range much less than 20LY. I made the return journey to the Crab Pulsar for the community goal at Tsu around Easter time in my 30LY-capable Asp and found only one route in to the centre. I don't remember exactly what the minimum jump needed is but I'm not sure I'd be able to make it in my Dropship with its 18LY range and I would also be worried about some other ships being able to complete the course, like the Sidewinder, Eagle and Orca. I would suggest that for a race like this a minimum required jump range should be given, to avoid the frustration of making a long journey and then not being able to find a way to the reach the destination. The only way to be sure, though, is to do a trial run of the course first(!).
 
In the end the St Valentine's Day Regatta was only about 16 minutes (for me, anyway!).

I like the Galactic Rally idea :).
Wow, one of the competitors spent longer than that arguing with them, because he hadn't read the warning about fetching an ADS so he couldn't find the finish line!

I was really feeling ill, so I didn't actually check where the finish line was when they revealed it. I just watched the Twitch feeds.

Glad there are ongoing efforts to preserve the tradition of the Buckyball Races under a new banner. A quick comment on the Galactic Rally suggestion: The Crab Nebula may be inaccessible for ships with a jump range much less than 20LY. I made the return journey to the Crab Pulsar for the community goal at Tsu around Easter time in my 30LY-capable Asp and found only one route in to the centre. I don't remember exactly what the minimum jump needed is but I'm not sure I'd be able to make it in my Dropship with its 18LY range and I would also be worried about some other ships being able to complete the course, like the Sidewinder, Eagle and Orca. I would suggest that for a race like this a minimum required jump range should be given, to avoid the frustration of making a long journey and then not being able to find a way to the reach the destination. The only way to be sure, though, is to do a trial run of the course first(!).
That's a good point, and I had realised that either me or another of us would need to scout out the route. The NGC 7822 Nebula is also hard to reach and I think you need 25+ range to get there. Certainly by a direct route anyway.

That would potentially make the rally less inclusive than a normal Buckyball, although the nice thing is that the Hauler is such an excellent and cheap explorer with the legs to match anything. :)

I am excited by the Galactic Rally, one thing that we could do is to allow shorter range ships to skip individual stages, they could race to the following stage's end. They wouldn't be able to win the overall rally but could win a 'class race'.

A special award could be for the ship that completed the whole rally, hitting every checkpoint, with the shortest jump range.
 
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Another random race idea I'll post while I'm thinking of it:
A "Twelve days of Christmas" themed special race for the festive period, to bring 12 of rare good A, 11 of rare good B, 10 of rare good C, etc, back to a set starting point. Split into classes based upon cargo capacity (and thus how many trips need to be made to complete the set). Starts on 25 Dec and runs for 12 days, obviously :)
 
I think it would be fun to pick a ship spec completely unsuited to racing, then race to a nebula with lots of unscoopables, like Statue of Liberty nebula.

Maybe as an Eagle race?
 
There's some great ideas in this thread and I'd be pleased to run any of them. I like the rares run idea. Shorter races of less than a hour allow you replay the route over and over to refine your time which I think adds to the fun
 
Three things. First, did anyone else notice that both current Buckyball threads are at the top of the community events subforum? Great job guys! 07 07 07 07

Second, another race Idea is to go around to systems supported or associated with different player groups. For instance, Milkuun, Lave, and Soontil each have a player group that hangs out around them, and would make for good checkpoints. those are the big three I am aware of, but there are definitely more (do Ailsing's angels have a planet they are often associated with? I remember their actions during the Quivera crisis, but that is it.) It is similar in theme to BBR8, but is closer in execution to BBR5 (I did some reading on all the races I missed) and still leaves the powers open for possible race 8. Let's call this "Community Disservice".

Third, let's set up a poll on the name in a different thread, and get that issue solved, so we can move on to point three of the OP. We need a banner we can fly, and bumper stickers to start printing!
 
Another random race idea I'll post while I'm thinking of it: A "Twelve days of Christmas" themed special race for the festive period, to bring 12 of rare good A, 11 of rare good B, 10 of rare good C, etc, back to a set starting point. Split into classes based upon cargo capacity (and thus how many trips need to be made to complete the set). Starts on 25 Dec and runs for 12 days, obviously :)
"... And a Leath'ry Egg in a pear tree!" Also, well... and this may get me slapped... Centauri Mega-gin?
 
Kessel Run

Ceska_Zbrojovka gave me an idea the other day in the FuelRats chat. He mentioned that he had found 2 stations called Kessel and wanted to do a speedrun between them.

That sounds like a great idea for a BuckyBall-style race, so I did a little more digging. There are 13 Kessel-named stations scattered all around the bubble. Almost all of them are outposts, though. I'll do some more research for those that have the system map unavailable in the GalMap.

I'm thinking a race where you have to visit all of the stations and document that you've been there with a screenshot. The sequence of stations would be up to each CMDR.

I've also thought about having to start and finish in Jabbah, a blue class B star about 500Ly outside the bubble.

The race should be held on May the 4. to commemorate an antique classic movie from the 20th century.
 
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Ceska_Zbrojovka gave me an idea the other day in the FuelRats chat. He mentioned that he had found 2 stations called Kessel and wanted to do a speedrun between them.

That sounds like a great idea for a BuckyBall-style race, so I did a little more digging. There are 13 Kessel-named stations scattered all around the bubble. Almost all of them are outposts, though. I'll do some more research for those that have the system map unavailable in the GalMap.

I'm thinking a race where you have to visit all of the stations and document that you've been there with a screenshot. The sequence of stations would be up to each CMDR.

I've also thought about having to start and finish in Jabbah, a blue class B star about 500Ly outside the bubble.

The race should be held on May the 4. to commemorate an antique classic movie from the 20th century.

Thank You, Stern.
You're investigative prowess is indeed first class.

As for another minor matter at hand.
I'd be in favour of referring to the events created from here as:
"The Buckyball Racing Club Presents: The Oddball 3001.X" (X being the number of the race in question starting from 01)
And in order to maintain the relevance to the date, Next year they'll become Oddball 3302's.

Very much looking forward to participating, and covering such events in future news bulletins on Radio Sidewinder
 
"... And a Leath'ry Egg in a pear tree!" Also, well... and this may get me slapped... Centauri Mega-gin?
I really like the 12 days of Christmas idea.

Centauri Mega-gin would be bad for this race though, not because of the distance (everybody needs to visit Hutton orbital at least once - surely?), but because the max availability is only 7! We'd have to go there on days 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 and 12!!!! Also Hutton is an outpost.

A better long trip would be for 12 tons of Gerasian Gueuze Beer, which has a max supply of 22 tons from a Corolis Starport 1 Million LS from the system entry point.

Regarding Hutton Orbital and Mega-gin, since EZ often threatened to send complainers to Hutton, I'm actually going to include a "Side Race" to the rares challenge for anyone who'd rather not have a big cargo capacity (or those who want to be the 'fastest courier ever'), to fetch a single ton of Mega-gin and another of Kligg's favourite V.Herculis Body Rub back to Jaques Station in the fastest time. I'll be making that run once myself to set an initial leaderboard time.

Ceska_Zbrojovka gave me an idea the other day in the FuelRats chat. He mentioned that he had found 2 stations called Kessel and wanted to do a speedrun between them.

That sounds like a great idea for a BuckyBall-style race, so I did a little more digging. There are 13 Kessel-named stations scattered all around the bubble. Almost all of them are outposts, though. I'll do some more research for those that have the system map unavailable in the GalMap.

I'm thinking a race where you have to visit all of the stations and document that you've been there with a screenshot. The sequence of stations would be up to each CMDR.

I've also thought about having to start and finish in Jabbah, a blue class B star about 500Ly outside the bubble.

The race should be held on May the 4. to commemorate an antique classic movie from the 20th century.

I'd absolutely love this! :D

In this case I really think that the orbitals should be used (ie visit every Kessel station), as the Falcon is definitely small enough to fit on a medium pad. I'd love a race that made heavy use of orbitals as they're so cool to dock at. Plus I'd love to see Esvandiary and Reload show us how to land at them at 420m/s!!! ;)

I'll help you to check out the uncharted Kessels if you like once I'm in the bubble - hopefully tomorrow. I'm going to double check the rares on my list, while helping out at Eleu (if I make it back in time). Then I'll look at some potential stages for the Galactic Rally. :)

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Oh, one more thing - please don't start a poll about the name just yet, most of us seem to prefer "The Buckyball Racing Club Presents...", but only if EZ is happy. I've PMed him my best wishes and also asked if he minded that kind of name, but he's not replied yet.

If he doesn't reply, then I'll actually assume that he'd rather we didn't but doesn't want to say...

In any case I'd rather not vote until he's had a chance to ask Bucky!
 
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Oh, one more thing - please don't start a poll about the name just yet, most of us seem to prefer "The Buckyball Racing Club Presents...", but only if EZ is happy. I've PMed him my best wishes and also asked if he minded that kind of name, but he's not replied yet.

If he doesn't reply, then I'll actually assume that he'd rather we didn't but doesn't want to say...

In any case I'd rather not vote until he's had a chance to ask Bucky!

I sent a PM this morning as well, for the same purpose (and to confirm no objections to my carrying on with the Buckyball Run A*) :)
 
Kessel Run

I've compiled a small table of details for the waypoints in the Kessel Run:

SystemCoordinatesStationArrivalType
Hanneng( -120, 45, 0 )Kessel Enterprise
1.141,34Ls​
Outpost
Latoras( -92, 86, -13 )Kessel Colony
17,98Ls​
Outpost
Dao Jungu( 24, 35, 65 )Kessel Gateway
1.464,15Ls​
Outpost
Edenapel( 6, 7, 39 )Kessel Hub
4.498,70Ls​
Outpost
HIP 18609( -16, -86, -174 )Kessel Legacy
5.460,54Ls​
Outpost
Apurarai( -47, -77, 67 )Kessel Platform
33,30Ls​
Outpost
Chediq( 112, 33, 9 )Kessel Platform
910,41Ls​
Outpost
Ba Narr( -84, -100, -26 )Kessel Port
734,71Ls​
Outpost
LHS 2936( -32, 56, 0 )Kessel Port
21,07Ls​
Outpost
HR 4749( 119, 14, 69 )Kessel Ring
950,73Ls​
Outpost
HIP 82964( -137, 97, -32 )Kessel Station
91,17Ls​
Starport
Hurusalki( -105, 93, -23 )Kessel Terminal
9.930,62Ls​
Outpost
Khodia( -99, 100, 66 )Kessel Inheritance
5,65Ls​
Outpost
Jabbah( 38, 177, 437 )Start/Finish lineClass B Star

The plan is to start in Jabbah, make your way through all Kessel stations in any order you choose, then back to Jabbah.
Long-range ships with fuel scoops will probably be the preferred choice among racers.
 
I've compiled a small table of details for the waypoints in the Kessel Run:

SystemCoordinatesStationArrivalType
Hanneng( -120, 45, 0 )Kessel Enterprise
1.141,34Ls​
Outpost
Latoras( -92, 86, -13 )Kessel Colony
17,98Ls​
Outpost
Dao Jungu( 24, 35, 65 )Kessel Gateway
1.464,15Ls​
Outpost
Edenapel( 6, 7, 39 )Kessel Hub
4.498,70Ls​
Outpost
HIP 18609( -16, -86, -174 )Kessel Legacy
5.460,54Ls​
Outpost
Apurarai( -47, -77, 67 )Kessel Platform
33,30Ls​
Outpost
Chediq( 112, 33, 9 )Kessel Platform
910,41Ls​
Outpost
Ba Narr( -84, -100, -26 )Kessel Port
734,71Ls​
Outpost
LHS 2936( -32, 56, 0 )Kessel Port
21,07Ls​
Outpost
HR 4749( 119, 14, 69 )Kessel Ring
950,73Ls​
Outpost
HIP 82964( -137, 97, -32 )Kessel Station
91,17Ls​
Starport
Hurusalki( -105, 93, -23 )Kessel Terminal
9.930,62Ls​
Outpost
Khodia( -99, 100, 66 )Kessel Inheritance
5,65Ls​
Outpost
Jabbah( 38, 177, 437 )Start/Finish lineClass B Star

The plan is to start in Jabbah, make your way through all Kessel stations in any order you choose, then back to Jabbah.
Long-range ships with fuel scoops will probably be the preferred choice among racers.

Nice work ... looks like quite an undertaking but if it ever comes to pass ... count me in!
 
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