Something is coming !!!
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Trouble comes from a broken perception on the results of the poll. The results of the poll are that 20% of people play power play. OP assumes that this means that the other 80% play literally every other gameplay style in ED and thus statistically PP is a failure.
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I blame mass media, who love to abuse this kind of broken logic daily to get catchy headlines.
I'd prefer to expound, but I don't need to. Put simply: Nothing he said was wrong.
Edit: Half a million people play ED. That means 100,000 people are playing powerplay if you go by that same statistic with the same logic that it is representative of the whole of the player base.
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Nothing about 100,000 players smells of failure to me.
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The only thing coming is 1.4 (CQC) in December, imo.
PC probably gets nothing until then.
Gamescon announcement is likely about what is coming next year, or that it's coming to PS4. Call me crazy, but I'm hoping for Anaconda paints.
PC probably gets nothing until then.
Gamescon announcement is likely about what is coming next year, or that it's coming to PS4. Call me crazy, but I'm hoping for Anaconda paints.
Really? This is what the forum has to offer after my absence? Guess I'll have to start blocking people.
What are you basing that on? If it's sales, I wouldn't be so sure. Of the 6 or 7 guys I know who bought the game none still play, as far as I know (and they're all on my friend's lists so you'd think I would spot them now and then, or hear them mention it out of game). Claiming those kind of numbers for active players seems as fallacious to me as claiming nobody plays.
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At the risk of moderator wrath; You're a really cute little dandelion that i just simply cannot stop smelling as it feels so good, feels so good...
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It's 800+ people now. Yes that is probably about 1/1000th of the number of buyers, but 1/5th of the average active players playing by steam. It's also one of the larger polls I've seen on the forum. So... <shrug> only frontier know the true numbers, and they won't be tellin' so. Ahead spurious conjecture factor 9 I say!
*Edit* Further digging (see later in thread if you are really bored) has made me realise that the above is balls, the poll is actually 0.8%ish of the Steam player base, and Elite is a lot more popular than I thought. The second point about it being one of the larger polls on the forum stands though.
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Hmmmm. You've seen the PowerPlay poll I take it? Is that delusional? (Aside from the fact that the same 'delusional vocal minority' argument could be applied to your good self?
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*Edit* However, If someone put up a poll "Have you explored more than 100ly from Sol? (Y/N)" or "Do you indulge in mining? (Y/N)" then you may get similar splits, and both of those are, I'd imagine acknowledged as core parts of the game.
Need More Rep To Hand Out.
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Playing with fire and then turning it into an unfriendly game of fireball...I like that more
Must Have More Rep.
Based upon an interview I recently read, actually. That's not to say that Frontier didn't inflate that number either, but they say they've got half a million players.
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Steam sales were pretty good. And where you know half a dozen people that quit, I know half a dozen that didn't. It's all about what your peers are into.
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FD would not talk about active players, would they. We know the number of copies sold is well over 500K - probably more like 700K. Only FD know how many are still active.
Not entirely true.
http://steamspy.com/app/359320
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Paints an alright picture. 100,000 people played in the last two weeks out of 260,000 owners. I'd say the retention rate outside of Steam is a bit higher. Steam sales can cause distractions.
Well the news letter states "Finally, in Powerplay players are overwhelmingly backing Zachary Hudson. 29 percent of players back Hudson, with just two percent backing Pranav Antal at the opposite end of the spectrum. "
So if anybody has information on Hudson's faction, or Antals, eg: and can crunch a calculated guess on players pledged, then the total PP players can be estimated.
So if anybody has information on Hudson's faction, or Antals, eg: and can crunch a calculated guess on players pledged, then the total PP players can be estimated.
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Uh, yeah, They locked the only new weapon modules that have come out since release behind it... Once people have their modules participation will go straight down.
20% of "a lot" is still "a lot."
You can get a biased sense of who is participating in PP just by where you hang out in game and who your friends are. If I go to PP control systems, then everyone there is still participating in PP. However, almost all of my friends who were big into PP and that I met while undermining over the last few weeks haven't logged in for about a week now. The ones who are logging lots of hours right now are mostly exploring. A few are mining. Even less are smuggling. Almost none are trading. It's a small sample size, certainly much smaller than the forum clique. But from my own experience the 20% participation numbers might even be optimistic.
I am not a PP hater. I want to see it succeed. And right now it is flailing. I think this is because there is no real impact from participating, and you can only participate in extremely narrow and shallow ways. You can't defend your own systems. Nothing you do really alters anything in any kind of meaningful way. All the systems remain basically the same even when they change hands. It's just a treadmill with a payday. Even CGs have more depth and impact on the game. I don't think it would take much to fix it really. They just need to integrate PP more with the background sim, and they also need to allow for more PP mission types that incorporate every kind of playstyle: exploration, smuggling, piracy, bounty hunting, policeman, etc. Oh and of course Spy.
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Hmmm. Steamspy gives 98,107 'players' in the last two weeks, yet Steamcharts gives an average of 4,932 players. I presume one is counting logins (i.e. not necessarily unique players), verses concurrent player numbers from unique ids?
Data: http://steamspy.com/app/359320 and http://steamcharts.com/app/359320#48h.
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There's, a, um, bit of difference between those numbers.
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*Edit* Ah, Steamspy's concurrent peak day and hourly player numbers are more in-line with Steamchart's values - 4,000 - 10,000 concurrent per day.
*Edit 2* Also interesting is how much higher the 'average' play time in Elite is far higher than the 'median' play time (according to Steamcharts). Sort of implies to me that the 5,000ish regular players are putting a hell of a lot of hours in game to skew the average. (Waves at the Hardcore ).
Data: http://steamspy.com/app/359320 and http://steamcharts.com/app/359320#48h.
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There's, a, um, bit of difference between those numbers.
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*Edit* Ah, Steamspy's concurrent peak day and hourly player numbers are more in-line with Steamchart's values - 4,000 - 10,000 concurrent per day.
*Edit 2* Also interesting is how much higher the 'average' play time in Elite is far higher than the 'median' play time (according to Steamcharts). Sort of implies to me that the 5,000ish regular players are putting a hell of a lot of hours in game to skew the average. (Waves at the Hardcore
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Wont let me rep you so I'll re quote you instead.
Difference is steamcharts is counting players logged in the game right now, and steamspy is counting the players that have logged in in the last 2 weeks. Not everyone plays every day at the same time.
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Consider that the average player will put in a little over an hour during a session, and that the average number of players at any given time seems to be around 5,000. 98,000 is pretty accurate given that.
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I hope whatever it is is pretty with all nice colours and that