UA Mystery Thread 3: The Canonn
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http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/The_Lion_Incident
We do know that some lore knowledge is useful (can't remember the source). I've re-read the lion incident and there is a script of sorts detailing the communications before the Lion vanishes. Do we have a list of things we've said to the UA over local comms? I still think this must be related to Halsey's disappearance and possibly the Lion/LRA incident (which I know is not strictly canonn)
We do know that some lore knowledge is useful (can't remember the source). I've re-read the lion incident and there is a script of sorts detailing the communications before the Lion vanishes. Do we have a list of things we've said to the UA over local comms? I still think this must be related to Halsey's disappearance and possibly the Lion/LRA incident (which I know is not strictly canonn)
You can get pretty close without the camera as it is. Close enough to see details for certain.
OK, I see 3 avenues to move forward to. (well, apart from make a recording of charging FSD inside it's cloud and see what happens, but that's quick)
Dissecting The Voice of The Unknown
(overthinking much? tomatoes to the right)
The Mating Rituals Unthinkable
Bring together 3, 4, 6, 12 of them. See what happens. Record it. Make sure we put ALL of them in the same cargo hold as well. Add some Hafnium for good measure.
Sacrifice On The Altar Of Profit
Yeah, after all the above is done, just sell the damn things off the bat. Maybe if we sell enough they'll stop us and say that's not how we should do it.
Dissecting The Voice of The Unknown
- See if there's anything with the 3rd type of "alien chittering" recently shown. Does it change per system, is it even emitted by the UA for sure? As opposed to being background and ever-present (goosebumps anyone?).
- Make some more, long recordings when one is found freefloating, with the aim to decode the various type of purrs. (this goes far... but bear with me)
- There could be a sort of binary encoding in the normal purrs, that is by not the highs and lows themselves, but the transition between highs and lows.
- For those who say "what if starts with 00 or 11" - then you're missing the start. It might be a long (really long) loop, of which you only hear parts (unless it's recorded long enough)
- Of course, if this is the case, the videos with high amount of purrs are actually better - (Tinfoil on: maybe it's trying to relay the message faster since it knows it's about to die)
- Discovering this loop is also important for acquiring a complete sequence, as some of these purrs are masked by / inaudible under the howls.
- Chances are, that this data is not enough in itself though. That's where the "in-between purrs" come in
- They consist of nine different tones (or variants) but these variants spell out (in Morse) a letter every now and then
- Again, very little information, and seems garbled by itself.
- These type of purrs don't seem to coincide with howls, and not masked by the original location-Morse chitter.
- Do these loop? (...too?)
- So once we have more data on these 2 type of purrs, see what happens if we combine it together? Do we have something meaningful?
- It's a small amount of data either way, so it's unlikely to be text.
- What if it's numbers? Coordinates maybe? 2 distinct sets? Where is the 3rd?
- What if timing is important? Some data is in the "inbetween purrs" then continues on with the normal purrs? Do we have to merge the 2 sets to get something meaningful?
- It's a small amount of data either way, so it's unlikely to be text.
- There could be a sort of binary encoding in the normal purrs, that is by not the highs and lows themselves, but the transition between highs and lows.
(overthinking much? tomatoes to the right)
The Mating Rituals Unthinkable
Bring together 3, 4, 6, 12 of them. See what happens. Record it. Make sure we put ALL of them in the same cargo hold as well. Add some Hafnium for good measure.
Sacrifice On The Altar Of Profit
Yeah, after all the above is done, just sell the damn things off the bat. Maybe if we sell enough they'll stop us and say that's not how we should do it.
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I like everything you said there except the part about the alien sounds not being understandable. We've already cracked a code within the sound of the UA. And though it might be meant to be an alien sound it was created by humans to be a mystery that other humans could figure out. The sound is the only actual clue we've received from Frontier other than the "certain regions of space" comment. I think it's always good to keep in mind that the UAs were meant to be something to be solved and so must have been created to be solveable.
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The problem is that the geometry there is a to down planar geometry and so you can link together any number of UAs without creating a "closed loop". That is, there will always be some pods that aren't part of the line that creates the shape. As I was falling asleep last night I was wondering what 3d shape the UAs could make by extending lines from the ends of the pods. If I have time today I will try to figure it out.
I've always assumed the morse was meant to be a sort of rosetta stone to allow us to understand other parts of the sound that are more of a cipher, like the purr sequences. I was also looking at the visual elements a little more last night. The pattern on the pods seems like it might be a clue on how to read the purrs. Visually, to me, it resembles the waveform of the recorded UA audio and maybe the divisions give clues to what is a letter or word in the audio.
In addition, I wanted to suggest, or ask, has anyone tried taking a UA very very far away from any celestial body and listening to the audio? I'm wondering if we can somehow get rid of the morse code which names the nearest celestial body that the rest of the audio will become clearer. (I'm full of ideas today)
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Significant UA numbers:
0
1
3
4
5
6
7
8
12
If we keep going I'm sure we can collect them all.
Though I was involved at the first UA sighting, and the initial testing, I stopped following the UA 'Quest' and am out of the loop.
I resigned with the idea that the UA storyline-game mechanics were not fully complete, or in game, and that the devs were more or less taken aback by our overwhelming response.
My question is if there has been any confirmation form the higher ups that there IS an end game to the UA hunt, and that there is something to find. Also, did the Drew Wagar stuff turn out to be more than a tro--, oops I mean fun 'fun exercise'?
If I take the case, will I get a Scooby Snack at the end?
I resigned with the idea that the UA storyline-game mechanics were not fully complete, or in game, and that the devs were more or less taken aback by our overwhelming response.
My question is if there has been any confirmation form the higher ups that there IS an end game to the UA hunt, and that there is something to find. Also, did the Drew Wagar stuff turn out to be more than a tro--, oops I mean fun 'fun exercise'?
If I take the case, will I get a Scooby Snack at the end?
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I've been asking that since the first thread
and I still have no idea.
I also wonder what this is?
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Since the Lotus theory is hot right know, let's say it's the side view of a Lotus seed-pod. http://www.digital.library.upenn.edu/women/edwards/pharaohs/177.gif
If audio were the only clue to finding the key to unlock the UA, why bother adding 12 cylinders in 3 rows of 4 cylinders 120 degrees apart, we would just have the head part emitting sounds. So IMO we should consider that the design and construction itself should give us further clues.
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What are the 12 cylinders are for? Why in that particular formation, pointing to 3 different direections of space? Are they weapons?
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Considering that the sound emitted by the UAs do not seem aggressive, I don't think the cylinders are a type of weapons.
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What are the 12 cylinders are for? Why in that particular formation, pointing to 3 different direections of space? Are they weapons?
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Considering that the sound emitted by the UAs do not seem aggressive, I don't think the cylinders are a type of weapons.
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Again, if I'm reading that graphic right, the pods are only 120 degrees apart in planar projection. They will have a different angular separation in 3 dimensions. Going to try to figure out what that is and what shapes are possible. Edit: In fact, any regular spacing of three lines will necessarily have a separation of 120 degrees. 360 / 3 = 120. Not really mysterious
Also, can anyone point me to a recording of one of the free-floating UAs? I thought someone had made one but I'm having a hell of a time finding it. Thanks. (I know I'm posing a lot. This is what happens when I drink too much coffee. I feel bad pushing thread 3 to 10,000 too fast.)
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When there is a mention of a melody I just have the thought that maybe it is DTMF and can be translated to numbers
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Could it be that the sounds are produced by the 12 cylinders? Could gives us a further clue to decode the audio?
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Divide the audio sequence according to different cylinder number ratios?
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All we know officially is that there is apparently still something UA-related to be found in-game (above and beyond the Morse). Drew's stuff was something entirely different, and it, as well as the whole Formidine Rift/Elite Reclamation storyline, eseentially went away with Drew, and turned out to have nothing to do with the UA.
There will certainly be biscuits at the end. Not sure about Scooby Snacks.
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From a wiki... copy pasteTo get the spaceships' attention prior to their arrival at Devil's Tower, the five notes the scientists play are G, A, F, (octave lower) F, C. When they arrive at the tower and are attempting communication, the notes they play are B flat, C, A flat, (octave lower) A flat, E flat.
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Thanks Cmndr, what & how do we know that there is something still to be found? Is this all based off DB's comments from before? Or has there recently been additional confirmation?
Links appreciated.
My apologies if the answers to my question are easily found. I'm willing to read up and become involved again, but only if there really is something IN GAME.
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