Excited VR noob

foosty1

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Good Morning all.

I have just bought the OR DK2, I know its not long before the commercial one but I was speaking to the wife about it and she said why notget one for your birthday, so after i got over the shock i said to myself why not indeed.
I have only just found elite dangerous after an absence from this game of 30years and i absolutely love it.
I want as much immersion into this game as I can and theoculus rift looks like the next step.
I am running an Alienware M17
Win 8 pro, I did upgrade to 10 but I rolled it back aftersome issues I had.
16GB Dual Channel DDR3L at 1600MHz
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 980M with4GB GDDR5
HDMI in/out
As a noob to the VR world can you guys advise which SDK to use? Any pitfalls to look out for and basically anything you think i might need to know.


Also if you have any demo's you think i might like please shout out.



Foosty1
 

SMcA

SMcA
foosty1 said:
Good Morning all.


As a noob to the VR world can you guys advise which SDK to use? Any pitfalls to look out for and basically anything you think i might need to know.

Foosty1
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Lucky you. :)

I am reading the VR threads as I will buy the commercial version when it comes out.
I read recently that FD said SDK 0.5 is the one to use.
 

Frank

Frank
You'll get a ton of help on this forum. I'm not a programmer so when I did get my copy of elite to run with the DK2 I stopped messing with it in case I did more damage than good. I'm on SDK 0.5. I've set the helmet to my primary monitor and use the on-off button on my headset to switch between displays. I've got a 980 as well. I find it's good enough for supersampling as long as I turn all the graphic lovelies of Elite down to their lowest levels. Oclusion and shadows are the main thieves of framerate.

And you really need to Kite & Lightning's Senza Peso <grin>
 

Frank

Frank
Oh yes!

Pay attention to the first few times you use your headset. Never continue playing if you feel even the slightest amount of nausea. Don't worry if this happens. You will get you VR legs eventually. When I got my Rift the only game I played was Half Life 2 and I had to use a kitchen timer to watch the amount of time I played.

Keep an eye on your umbilical cable. There's been a couple of posts saying their's had failed.

Don't use the lens cloth that came with your headset. People have complained it scratches their lenses. Palmer Luckey must've shipped out squares of sandpaper by accident. I bought a microfibre cloth especially for my headset. I use it every day... carefully, and I can still see through my lenses.

The sweet spot for the lenses is very small. If the image is blurry try shifting the headset about on your head. Remember to try shifting the glasses to the left and right as well as up and down.

If you don't have Voice Attack yet, get it. The galaxy map search accepts pasted text. You can type out your destination in normal flat-o-vision and use copy & paste to transfer it into the map.

And lastly, I don't know if they've fixed the clipping yet, but try standing up whilst flying in a Sidewinder. Debug camera certainly works... woohoo!
 

SlackR

Banned
SlackR
Pixelpowder said:
try both oculus lenses to find which gives the best clarity
buy a hotas
try and run DSR if you can to up resolution
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Probably not a good idea on a 980m... Not sure if the optimus issues still occur, but if you grt regular crashes and BSOD just unistall the ovulus runtime in program manger. :)
 

Frank

Frank
SlackR said:
Probably not a good idea on a 980m... Not sure if the optimus issues still occur, but if you grt regular crashes and BSOD just unistall the ovulus runtime in program manger. :)
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Whoops! I didn't notice the M bit of the 980 when I said I was supersampling.
 

iced01

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Oculus does not play well in elite on a 980m. Trust me I have tried it on a higher end laptop than yours with a 980m. Oculus is mind blowing in elite with a desktop running a minimum of a 970.. I can crank the graphic settings all the way up in a 980gtx sli configured desktop. Keep in mind you need a lot of horsepower because you are driving two screens at 75fps when using the oculus rift. Is it worth the money for the desktop equipment? Absolutely if you have it to spare. I don't regret a single dime I have spent on mine. However I must warn you. you will hate gaming on a regular monitor after using the Oculus Rift with an ideal setup.
 

foosty1

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Apolgies guys i boobed, i was at work when i posted originally and couldn't remember my graphics card so i looked up the alienware site. but my card is actually a AMD Radeon R9 M290x.
which i think is slightly slower than the previous mentioned card.
If i set my graphics properties low will it run ok and i am reading about optimus causing issues, is this still the case?
Sorry if my questions are vague.

on a side note my son has a decent gaming desktop so if all else fails he will be getting evicted from it and i will be taking it over, lol.

I appreciate the guidance and help as always guys.

Foosty1
 

iced01

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Maybe. the truth is oculus is at it best with super sampling enabled on the dk2 which definitely requires the high end cards. its kind of like driving a sports car with a governor that cuts your speed in half. Most of us fall into the trap of trying it on a low end system and see how awesome it is to be inside your ship than spend the serious money to get high end systems to get good performance and no stuttering.
 

MarcusVatta

MarcusVatta
I'm running a 960gtx with good performance. Use the custom resolution approach to supersampling, rather than the in-game setting. I find it gives slightly better performance. And don't forget to check your computer's power supply before you upgrade a vid card. I've fallen into that trap a couple of times.
 

ranix

ranix
Hey froosty, I've never had an Nvidia integrated mobile card that performed better than an ATI integrated card. I don't know what the deal is with the Nvidia mobile cards, but they seem to be really bad. I doubt the card you mentioned before is better than the radeon you have in reality
 

foosty1

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Cheers for the input guys.

I wish i had found out about ED and OR about 7 months ago.
The 2k i spent on this laptop ( no sniggering) could of got me a very nice gaming rig indeed.
We live and we learn i guess, now to start planting the seeds into the wifes head as to why i need a decent specced rig. ;)
I will just have to make do for now and at the end of the day it's the game that i like and to be honest the tinkering around with computers and settings is part of the thrill for me.

I will update at the end of the week when i get my OR how i get on.

See you in the black guys.

foosty1
 

Desert63

Desert63
foosty1 said:
Cheers for the input guys.

now to start planting the seeds into the wifes head as to why i need a decent specced rig. ;)

foosty1
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I actually hid the OR from my wife, and even made sure she was busy away from home when it showed up. She had zero tolerance for the limited time I have spent in online games and her pop culture view of VR is not positive and she said its for kooks (her words) and doesnt want it in her house- so I had a hardsell. What finally gave me an in is when a friend gave me a CPU and motherboard (an older one as I note on my other thread) so I could put together a PC for a reasonable amount, although I did get a 970. So I spent two weeks getting it all setup, X52 configured, and finally RIFT testing when it showed, etc, etc. Last night I had her come down and said I wanted to surprise her - had the ship floating out in an asteroid field but monitor off and speakers off and the RIFT hidden - and let her play around with the HOTAS. I gave her a demo and let her get familiar with how to use the joystick, and then asked her to close her eyes and put the RIFT on. It wasnt instant. At first she generally looked ahead mostly confused (or maybe ), then I started having her look around - look at her VR hand and watch how it moves when she does, look back through the windows, look around the ship, and then-she-got-it! I knew I had her when she could not get over the first aid kit in the ship and how it was all so real...for awhile she was more interested in everything inside the ship turning all around over and over....and then she was in awe of the asteroids. I guided her hands on the throttle and joystick at first and she said, 'I want to do it' and kept hitting boost to fly around until she drained the capacitor and just had a ball zooming around asteroids. 20 minutes later of just flying..stopping and staring...commenting about how real it was....and then flying more, she said she felt a bit woobly - opps, dont want to ruin the moment so I removed the RIFT. (She had never touched a HOTAS in her life and 'previously' had little tolerance for video games.)

So I dont have a blank check for my upgrades, but I do have a check :) and someone that at least now gets it if she sees me staring at a wall with a hunk of plastic on my face :)
 

foosty1

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Hey Desert63.

I hear what your saying.
My wife is not at all into gaming or gadgets or sci-fi like myself, but they say opposites attract.
I always have been into these things from the day we met. I was, as ive said inprevious posts, into computers before they were popular or trendy.
My wife is very tolerant of my passion but she does rein mein every now and then which i need because I can become a wee bit engrossed with some of the things I get into or the games I play.
It’s a bit like when you see someone having to make a decision on tv and you see the little devil pop up on one shoulder and the little angel pop up on the other except the wee devil is me and the wee angel is the wife.(she is no angel by the way);)
The devils like “Just buy it go on what does it matter you only live once”.
And the wee angel is like “yes you could buy it but we really need to fix the leak in the roof or we really need to decorate etc etc etc”.
She normally gives me a reality check, I say normally but not always, and this brings me back to earth.
My ace in the hole here is that my wife has always been tickled pink with 3D cinema or 3D tv so I’m hoping to do roughly the same as you and hopefully she will be blown away by it and then I will have more space to manoeuvre.
I’ll let you guys know how I get on.

Foosty1
 
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iced01

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I guess im lucky. My wife and I both are in our mid 30's. Both professionals. no kids. separate money from each other besides the bills way pay together. As long as I don't spend less time with her and family she doesn't give a crap what I buy or do. I never ask for permission to buy anything.
 

foosty1

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Hey guys.

Iced01 – sounds like an ideal setup, I would end up broke but with the best gadgets going.
I think in my case I need someone telling me to slow down every now and then.

Ok so the DK2s arrived yesterday and I am blown away.
I haven’t done anything major with them yet apart from mess with a few demos and I’m having some issues getting it setup for elite which I’veraised in a different thread, but wow that’s all I can say.
Desert63 I setup the riftcoaster demo and gave my wife ashot she was in hysterics and was squealing and screaming it was the funniest thing ever.
So let’s say she is now more understanding of the requirementsof the rift.;)
It’s gonna take me a little while I think to get everything up and running properly but I am loving it.
This was the first time I have ever tried VR and I am honestly in awe.

Foosty1
 
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