Elite Dangerous data : is the game dying or growing ?

[Rami77]

but if you want to follow the elite hate bandwaggon

The question is : WHY there is a "elite hate bandwagon"?

For no reason?

If Horizons will not bring some meaty (gameplay) content to the game there is a high chance that the active member base will drop further down the line and only a few thousands will continue playing and buying possible full price expansions (!). And thats not enough to fullfil the "10 year plan", thats for sure.

BTW: It is a mindless grindmachine at the moment, and the number of ppl calling ED a grindfest grows with every boring "content update". And tbh : Upades like PP, cqc and wings where a JOKE. If the the content updates of Horizions will also be this shallow.... oh boy.

The proof that ED is vey grindy is the fact that many posts in the ED forums have to do with "effective farming" or tutorials how to exploit PP to get the best upgrades fromt he 10 "powers".

 

[Ignition]

ED is fine. I haven't played it for a few months, doesn't mean I won't come back to it when Horizons lands (!). It's probably the case for many people. Besides, active players don't matter as much as the raw number of purchases for FD, since there is no monthly fee. As long as the players are there when there is a paid expansion, it's money on FD's account and the game lives on.

The number of players vs sells tells about the quality of the game.

 

[xondk]

If we had a Million active Players, things would look drastically different - but few Players get that..

I think I wrote that? yes, high trafficked areas would naturally see the huge boost, but once you filter the people amongst the available systems, even just in the civilized systems, then it suddenly isn't that much, again not saying there wouldn't be a difference. Also remember a million 'active' normally doesn't mean that there are a million people online at any time. But I am just saying don't forget how big Elite is, it can quickly make it seem empty because of this.

 

[kilvenny]

The question is : WHY there is a "elite hate bandwagon".

For no reason?

Some reasons
1. Hype - Released content not matching peoples "expectation" that was fuelled by the DDF documentation
2. offlinegate
3. Funding model - seasons passes, content and platform choices
4. Star Citizen not yet released - allowing the perfect unreleased game to be compared to an incomplete but released game.

 

[Bacalao]

The question is : WHY there is a "elite hate bandwagon"?

For no reason?

If Horizons will not bring some meaty (gameplay) content to the game there is a high chance that the active member base will drop further down the line and only a few thousands will continue playing and buying possible full price expansions (!). And thats not enough to fullfil the "10 year plan", thats for sure.

BTW: It is a mindless grindmachine at the moment, and the number of ppl calling ED a grindfest grows with every boring "content update". And tbh : Upades like PP, cqc and wings where a JOKE. If the the content updates of Horizions will also be this shallow.... oh boy.

The proof that ED is vey grindy is the fact that many posts in the ED forums have to do with "effective farming" or tutorials how to exploit PP to get the best upgrades fromt he 10 "powers".

And if you go to any other game forum for any other game, you'll find the exact same sentiments being expressed. 10% real issue, 90% people playing the wrong kind of game wanting to force it into something they want it to be.

 

[Rami77]

Some reasons
1. Hype - Released content not matching peoples "expectation" that was fuelled by the DDF documentation

...and David Brabens promises in his Kickstarter Pitch videos. The game is FAR away from this(his) vision.

And the Team knows that :

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=178521

 

[Privata]

...and David Brabens promises in his Kickstarter Pitch videos. The game is FAR away from this(his) vision.

And the Team knows that :

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=178521

said vids are about the final version , the version that we are getting over time....
at least its not like X² were we were told we would get war , dynamic factions or X3 with tones of dynamic politics and ''natural'' disasters and non never came outside of mods
or freelancer were we were promised a sandbox and what we got was starlancer

 

[Rami77]

And if you go to any other game forum for any other game, you'll find the exact same sentiments being expressed. 10% real issue, 90% people playing the wrong kind of game wanting to force it into something they want it to be.

Ah, the "wrong kind of game" argument again. You could be right if the goal is realy to create an REMAKE of an 30 year old game. Yeah, in this case me and many critics playing the wrong game. But do you realy think ED can compete with this kind of game against Star Citizen? This very few "84´s" peeps that replaying their childhood at the moment cant keep this game alive.

Dude, just look at the Steam or Metacritic scores. At the moment ED ist just an mediocre space sim, and i am pretty sure that mainly the core clientele voted there, not the "COD kiddy". You can still persuade yourself that the game is on the right track, go on if you want. But believe me : This is a dead end and time will proof this (wich is very sad).

 

[ianw]

...and David Brabens promises in his Kickstarter Pitch videos. The game is FAR away from this(his) vision.

And the Team knows that :

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=178521

Was there any confirmation from someone in "the team" that confirms someone in "the team" actually said that - as opposed to some guy who says that's what they said?

ETA - I'm not saying I think there are no problems - I'm just questioning the veracity of the OP's statement in that thread - unless someone can show something official that confirms it.

 

[skypine27]

Hah.

Ive read the same "game is dying!!" threads for years about
guild wars 2
war thunder
world of tanks

they are still being played.

 

[Vandal71]

I stopped playing awhile back. I don't like the direction the game is going. I loved the beta, back when smuggling was fun and dangerous. Also, now I can kill a bounty and have no idea where the faction is located to sell it to. I liked it better when you could turn it in at any allied port.

It's just frustrating. I like that the AI is more difficult, but the rest just isn't any fun anymore. I might reload it when planetary landings comes out, but for now I just don't like playing it.

 

[Theta Sigma]

RIP E:D [2015 - ????]

But do you realy think ED can compete with this kind of game against Star Citizen?

Rami77, we all _know_ that Star Citizen will launch on-time, with all promised features, and it will be amazing, and everything else will look 8bit in comparison, and it will be all things to all people, and nobody will complain about a single aspect of it. Yes. Of course we all realise that, so why even mention it? %^]

Dude, just look at the Steam or Metacritic scores.

Did you accidentally miss off the sarcasm tags? You're citing Metacritic as a source of objective reviews/reviewers? Seriously?

But believe me : This is a dead end and time will proof this (wich is very sad).

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Just one final question:

Since, apparently, time will prove 'this' (accepted, all games 'die' at some point, in the sense of 'servers switched off' and/or hardly anybody playing the game any more)

Can you give us an approximate date for 'The Death of Elite: Dangerous', oh prescient one?

(+/- 1 year will be fine for my future records)

 

[Crescendo]

As soon as you're born you're dying.

So you might as well have a good time!

 

[newman1702]

I'm telling you, this universe thing isn't doing well. In it's present condition it will never be able to fight off heat death. It's gone, man. A temporary fad at best. Unlike Star Citizen, of course

 

[MarcusReed]

Steam players aren't the only players in game.

 

[Berty Dastard]

The kids probably went back to school just over 2 weeks ago - or did someone else say that. Didn't read all sorry

 

[Theta Sigma]

The kids probably went back to school just over 2 weeks ago - or did someone else say that. Didn't read all sorry

Yes indeed, and the anecdotal, comparative evidence for that kind of thing happening across disparate games (possible summer decline, and so on) is readily available, if only people could be bothered to do some research (not directing that at you Berty)

https://steamdb.info/graph/?compare=306130,335300,39210,359320

 

[Ben Ryder]

This reminds me of

[video=youtube;zJDu5D_IXbc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJDu5D_IXbc[/video]

 

[Theta Sigma]

Mathematical Anti Telharsic Harfatum Septomim

This reminds me of

Please accept my apologies, Ben.

I should have said:

numbers = blah blah blah

I mean, what are numbers?
There's little point in even thinking about them.


We might as well ask the same of birds?

What _are_ birds? (...we just don't know : )

 

[Flin]

I don't think CQC or Ships will do much to draw new players in, but Horizons...

Once the first videos are shared of players messing about in Scarabs on the surface, interacting/doing stunts with ships, the sales are going to go waay up, I reckon.

With CQC getting good feedback, I think it'll draw the Xbox crowd, which of course is another platform not called Steam.