When someone drags you, your wife,your kids, game, and employees through the mud publicly multiple times a day for almost 5 months let me know how you would react. cause im sure youve been there done that am-i-right?
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When someone drags you, your wife,your kids, game, and employees through the mud publicly multiple times a day for almost 5 months let me know how you would react. cause im sure youve been there done that am-i-right?
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No doubt it is easier said than done. But acting as the head of a corporation leading 265 employees with an obligation to a million backers and worth 90 MM USD should have helped a lot in considering the pros and cons of such rants. I sincerely hope it is not just about the family.
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Only just caught up with this today, looks very worrying for backers, i will wait and read more as it arrives.
A few questions though, anybody has any idea who the ex employees could be, and wow, Sandi is CR;s wife, so shouldn't that be Sandi Roberts, and why use Gardener, were they trying to hide it for some strange reason.
My mind boggles just now, but all i want is the game we were promised, and i feel for the worry of those who backed large amounts, right now i am glad my pledge was an Aurora and a free AMD mustang.
A few questions though, anybody has any idea who the ex employees could be, and wow, Sandi is CR;s wife, so shouldn't that be Sandi Roberts, and why use Gardener, were they trying to hide it for some strange reason.
My mind boggles just now, but all i want is the game we were promised, and i feel for the worry of those who backed large amounts, right now i am glad my pledge was an Aurora and a free AMD mustang.
I couldn't really say, I'm not an accountant. Just offering some topical information since you brought up accounts.
They are currently subject to small fixed fines (those are automatic). But like I said, the directors personally can be held criminally liable if those accounts remain overdue, and the fines are unlimited if that happens... why would they even risk that?
Probably should have just left it at that.
That still means they were making ship commercials for 2+ years?
Personally I've found the excuses they gave for making them laughable
I don't think anyone wants the ED flight model in SC as well. Variety would be welcomed. A flight model that's actually challenging and provides for interesting gameplay would do.
Also it's not the flight model that's attracted the "masses" to SC. In fact a very very small minority of the backers has played AC and many of those that have have been complaining about the FM for months and months.
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Im afraid not. I can sympathize though.
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I didn't mean lately, I meant in general.
How do you think they got to $90M ?
Surely not by showing their "great" demo of Arena Commander.
In the matter of fact, things stood still for some period of time, with only AC available, while they kept making ships, concept arts and commercials.
We could have had a functioning flight model at least, by now. It, in itself, would attract more people than repel them off as the situation stands now.
You haven't been paying attention to abysmal flight model ? Or the (lack of) controller parity ?
What have you been paying attention to, graphics?
No, the majority doesn't want another ED flight model (neither do I), but maybe something in between. Whatever they do, they need to get rid of what is currently implemented or at least improve it vastly.
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What exactly did DS say about CR's kid?
I've heard it mentioned but never looked into it.
Yes Sandi is CR's wife, and she is listed as Sandi Roberts on some websites (IMDb). But for some reason, CR and Sandi tried to hide their relationship from this project and the backers, using the name Sandi Gardener and deleting any evidence of their relationship.
The ex and current employee's could be any number of people as CIG has had a high turnaround lately, as they have found Redundancies in their company.
Because SC is so vague, it really is not possible to deliver the game that was "promised".
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He said nothing, that was just hyperbole by dcndnts. The child was only referenced because there was a promo photo of her and her mother Sandi holding hands on the child's public IMDb site.
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17 months for 13 commercials (quite a few are directors cuts and very similar) if the YT playlist is anything to go by - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVct2QDhDrB0QRjv9oN02f8mGsml8tcK9
I'm unsure what the excuses were about but clearly when you do something like this it's about selling a product and any other suggestion is nonsense.
I don't really see the issue with it, in fact I think it's pretty clever and fun stuff they're doing with those and it probably costs a lot less than what many AAA advertisers spend on their games.
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Well you're still complaining about it a lot "lately".
But even if you take it in general...just look at what has been shown overall and compare it to another game we know. Is it really *that* far behind given what we've seen recently? If you look overall at what is happening with both games then sure one of them is much more playable currently - but the other has shown more of what both of their futures hold. And yes even though most of that has been "lately", it's still more than what we've seen of the other. It's just been different.
I think most people are under the belief that the flight model will be tweaked and that it's not such a big deal in the actual game. What you're seeing is what you should expect to see when the same guys have nothing much to do except fight in similar ships on the same map for 18 months.
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For those saying that Citizencon will show people, well how exactly? CIG are not going to be releasing anything and at most they are just going to show another scripted Demo, and/or a trailer. CIG has been accused of not making a game but spending all their time making trailers, I really don't see how CIG releasing a trailer will change peoples minds. From what CIG have hinted at, its going to be still months before anything new is playable, and with CIG's track record, you might as well add 6 months to that.
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They're going to HAVE to show something really good.
A scripted demo or another prototype won't cut it.
Either way it's going to be interesting to see what they show but I don't expect to play anything entertaining from them anytime soon.
Wife didn't take my name...Its her name, she has to live with it, so why should she have to take mine?
Unofficially she uses my surname among family but in her professional career she has every right to use her own.
I imagine Sandi's reasons are the same, especially since she has an established public career.
EDIT: NVM, didn't realize she is listed as a Roberts on IMDb...they are definitely trying to obfuscate that either for CIG employees or SC backers
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I think a reasonable quality demo or a prototype will be more than enough to keep things going. The SC community has shown how resilient it is to lack of actual playable content. To the tune of 90 MM USD.
The only thing that could cut it (pun intended) eventually is if DS/Escapist claims of wasted funds were true.
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Exactly - We saw a demo of FPS MONTHS ago... not here yet. We've seen that they have the tech for multicrew ships, not here yet. Boarding ships? - wait. Fantastic ship commercials? - not even developed yet (but you can still buy them! ). Space farms on ships? - We got that... (I'm bored now...)
I'll give you a demo of the moon on a stick for $90m... But you might have to wait a bit for the reality.
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Top and bottom of it is that 4 years after the start of production, when Roberts started work on a demo, there's relatively little to show for it. Until there is then the criticisms and questions will continue.
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