Came back to play after giving it a break for months, lost everything to an elite python in a normal trade run. I quit.

I just BARELY made it back into supercruise with my ship temp at 270%...

The whole thing sounds like an epic experience. The only thing you did wrong was jump to supercruise, you would still have the ship if you high waked, all part of the learning curve.
 
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I am a bit confused. Is the OP saying that they didn't take the loan that was offered and lost everything? That they needed another 800 k? That they took it and had to pay it back? Or that they lost their ship in the first place? I recently lost my T9 to a wing of anacondas so know what that's like!

On the plus side, it's easier to make money now than it's ever been, and more ways are viable:).
 
The whole thing sounds like an epic experience. The only thing you did wrong was jump to supercruise, you would still have the ship if you high waked, all part of the learning curve.

Just to explain, as not everyone knows what is meant by "high wake"

@OP when people advise "high wake", they mean - jump to another system. You do not get mass locked if you jump out of your current system to another one and reduce the chance of being followed.
 
Out of interest: In OP's situation, if he had submitted to interdiction and dropped some cargo, would the AI pirate have been satisfied? Is the AI sophisticated enough to handle those kinds of interactions now? Or did he do the right thing by trying to run?
 
Point defence and chaff should also help against missiles and lasers. Fit some shield boosters in the remaining utility slots if you have enough power.
 
Out of interest: In OP's situation, if he had submitted to interdiction and dropped some cargo, would the AI pirate have been satisfied? Is the AI sophisticated enough to handle those kinds of interactions now? Or did he do the right thing by trying to run?

He should have submitted, 4 pips to shields, dumped chaff and high waked after the cooldown. The missiles would be bouncing off his shields. As far as I know, AI don't seem to care about dumping cargo
 
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Out of interest: In OP's situation, if he had submitted to interdiction and dropped some cargo, would the AI pirate have been satisfied?

AI is very temperamental in this situation. I tried have tried dropping cargo, and they have always yelled "Not good enough" paraphrasing here.

Probably should have dropped the Painite not the Bauxite.
 
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There are some rare smuggling missions that pay 1-8m+ for 30 minutes work. That's 8x your rebuy. You could complete these missions in a Hauler.

I made 2m+ in 30 minutes play in a Hazardous Res last night (no PowerPlay bonuses).

My rebuy is 4m. So my death is worth an hour of play at most. That doesn't include the "loans" we can get to make the risk even less.


Ultimately, if you are not prepared to consider that small risk as part of the gameplay, it's possible CQC mode might interest you more. CQC has almost instant respawns - which is essentially what we are opting for if we remove the ship insurance.

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He should have submitted, 4 pips to shields, dumped chaff and high waked after the cooldown. The missiles would be bouncing off his shields. As far as I know, AI don't seem to care about dumping cargo

Someone tested this recently, they do - but it doesn't seem to stop them from sometimes spawning in Supercruise again with you and interdicting you again. Some of them expect ridiculous amounts too, they don't just say "drop x tonnes" (how would they know anyway), but it does work sometimes.
 
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The game is Elite : Dangerous I'm afraid, not Elite : mostly harmless.

I'm an experienced pilot in this game, and I never ever leave port without insurance, even if I have to sell off a module to pay for it.

Your best option when interdicted is to submit instantly because your FSD cool down is like 10 seconds, and to put 4 pips to engines and run (unless the pirate is human of course.. then you can dump cargo, swear at the naughty person and be on your way)

Fdev uprated the NPC AI while you were away too which is why you got yourself shot down.... cops will chase you into SC if they scan you and find naughty stuff etc etc... makes things far more fun

Bill

<<flew into a SSS last night with 3 wingmates .... the 4 vultures concentrated their fire on me :eek: result ... 15% hull left on an heavily armored python.. wingmen also took heavy damage after I jumped out :eek:
Damn that AI upgrade
 
So i decided to check out elite again with the Horizons expansion on the rise. I left off in my fresh type 7 and I was building my funds back up to get on the roll with my trade routes again. Deep within my powers territory (HQ in fact) i took a contract to bring in semiconduters. I found a place to buy them only a few systems away, still deep in alliance controlled space. I pick them up, leave, and get interdicted by an elite python in less than a few LS from ally HQ. No problem, I evade interdictions all the time.... and im close to home anyway. I aim at the escape vector flawlessly, hardly any time broken away from the reticle... and this is where the bull begins. The pythons meter fills up in less than 10 seconds it seemed while i was pointed at my escape vector the whole time. He broke me from SC and started firing missiles at me nonstop. I cannot outrun him even while boosting, i cannot outmaneuver his gunfire because he is elite. He is picking at my shields while i dodge fire as best as i can until FSD is ready again. i managed to evade the missiles but his proximity and lasers make my FSD take forever to spool up again. i wasnt getting out of there without taking some heat damage. around 50% FSD my shields are down and i start taking module damage and fires begin popping up. i shut down the systems that were on fire and solved my fire issue on the fly. creeping up on 80% or so FSD, my hull is at 40% and dropping quick. I just BARELY made it back into supercruise with my ship temp at 270%... it starts cooling rapidly and my hull was at 3%.... THREE PERCENT!!!! what a relief! NO....... he interdicts me AGAIN before i reach HQ to finish me off. Without taking out a loan for 880~k credits I would lose absolutely everything ive spent months building up to get.....

i hate to say it but this game totally ruined me today. I had no chance of survival and i think i did a pretty epic job with the near escape with 3% hull left. what a great way to come back to this game right? total bull. this game is a piece of . what the am i going to do, spend another month or so just paying off my debt? no. i am done playing. that wasn't even fair. i wouldnt be so mad if it were a player, but today just reminded me how absolutely stupid elite dangerous is, and how you face the same repetetive risks of losing your ass. ive only died once, ever, when i first started playing and didnt know what the i was doing. im a seasoned trader, i aimed at my escape vector perfectly, but the game decided it was time for me to lube up and take it up the rear.

yes i am mad. any of you would be too. i will not be buying horizons.

life is hard my friends...

life is H A R D!!
 
i am sorry for OP's loss but..... and it's a big but, to rage quit over losing a ship in a game and rant like this, -100 rep for that.
This is a space ship sim, in a galaxy with pirates, other players, laws, police, npc's, lots of ways to die ect, so we were given insurance to lessen the pain, have enough to pay it, your fine, if you don't then except the risk.
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<snip> what the am i going to do, spend another month or so just paying off my debt? no. i am done playing. that wasn't even fair. <snip>. i will not be buying horizons.

this is very childish.
 
What I love is the fact the people churning out the stock "euro truck sim in space" insult have largely disappeared. You can no simply potter around in your defenceless type x making millions. Back to the elite 84 standard now, and that feels great.
 
Please please create a section on the forum these threads can be moved to by the moderators so everyone else can avoid them
 
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