Rare Commodities List!

you're right about lucan onion head but onion head is legal in varati :D
I think it was Zemina Torval PP faction that was blocking onion head, maybe FD copied Lucan onion heads legality for onion head and accidently turned it back on?

uh. you got me. i didn't even thought about powerplay could suppress rares. need to read up on it.
 
Has anyone come across a government / faction combination that makes all the legal-drug rares illegal?

I need a better home for the Bootlegger Challenge next year, as only Tarach Spice was illegal in Weyl Gateway, so the run into the finish line didn’t involve as much bootlegging as the intermediate stops. I need a really restrictive station that also has a black market! :D
 
Has anyone come across a government / faction combination that makes all the legal-drug rares illegal?

I need a better home for the Bootlegger Challenge next year, as only Tarach Spice was illegal in Weyl Gateway, so the run into the finish line didn’t involve as much bootlegging as the intermediate stops. I need a really restrictive station that also has a black market! :D

i'd bet that any theocracy will work best, i'm not sure whether there are federal theocracies. a federal prison colony should work, too. maybe your guys got arrested, but still running things from a prison?
 
I took a trip out to HIP 41181 thinking that it was not so far as it looked quite close to the star but it must be the biggest star in the Universe as it took me ages to arrive at Andersson Station. Anyway to cut a "Long" story short I sold my goods, marine equipment for a goodly sum and as I was looking through the market for something to take back with me I saw that there was a rare commodity for sale. It was called HIP proto squid and I could only buy one which I did. I bought it for 1454CR and the average galaxy price was quoted at 8547CR but when I got back eventually to Kaushpoos I found that I could make 3CR profit if I sell it there. Now I am aware this has probably got to do with distance and as I fancy a long distance exploration trip into the unknown to test out my scanners does anyone have any idea how far I need to go to get rid of this stinking fish from hogging a space in my hold?.

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I took a trip out to HIP 41181 thinking that it was not so far as it looked quite close to the star but it must be the biggest star in the Universe as it took me ages to arrive at Andersson Station. Anyway to cut a "Long" story short I sold my goods, marine equipment for a goodly sum and as I was looking through the market for something to take back with me I saw that there was a rare commodity for sale. It was called HIP proto squid and I could only buy one which I did. I bought it for 1454CR and the average galaxy price was quoted at 8547CR but when I got back eventually to Kaushpoos I found that I could make 3CR profit if I sell it there. Now I am aware this has probably got to do with distance and as I fancy a long distance exploration trip into the unknown to test out my scanners does anyone have any idea how far I need to go to get rid of this stinking fish from hogging a space in my hold?.

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about 160ly from where you got it will get you the max price :D
should twice the galatic average
 
Just stumbled across this station, and have some corrections to the main list:

36 Ophiuchi (Independent) - Katzenstein Dock (4,218,813ls) - Ophiuch Exino Artefacts - 4356 cr - Max Allocation 10t - Station has no black market

Station is Federation, and it does have a black market.
 
do we have any new intel on the "unknown" rares in 1.4 (wardian grow pots, saxon wine...)? is titan black still in game?
 
do we have any new intel on the "unknown" rares in 1.4 (wardian grow pots, saxon wine...)? is titan black still in game?

no, but I'm going to write a bug report for saxon wine and the synthsilk and see what happens
also still nothing on master chefs in noti
 
i'd bet that any theocracy will work best, i'm not sure whether there are federal theocracies. a federal prison colony should work, too. maybe your guys got arrested, but still running things from a prison?

Has anyone come across a government / faction combination that makes all the legal-drug rares illegal?

I need a better home for the Bootlegger Challenge next year, as only Tarach Spice was illegal in Weyl Gateway, so the run into the finish line didn’t involve as much bootlegging as the intermediate stops. I need a really restrictive station that also has a black market! :D

goemon's suggestion seems good - here is a list of Theocracies and Prison colonies that have a market, blackmarket, and don't need a permit. Watch out for Landing pad size!

Paul-Friedrichs Star looks interesting - Federation!
Thornycroft Penal Colony look like a fairly intolerant bunch too.

Reading the latest posts here it looks like I'm well overdue for a refresh of the CSV extracts - have been maxed with work last few weeks - I'll try and get it sorted soon!

HTH

"name","system","needs_permit","max_landing_pad_size","distance_to_star","sc_est_mins","faction","government","allegiance","state","type","has_blackmarket","has_commodities","has_refuel","has_repair","has_rearm","has_outfitting","has_shipyard","import_commodities","export_commodities","prohibited_commodities","economies"
"Quimper Vision","Messi",0,"L",56,2,"Angelic Church of Messi","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Polymers, Land Enrichment Systems, Synthetic Fabrics}","{Hydrogen Fuel, Biowaste, Limpet}","{Consumer Technology, Narcotics, Tobacco, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Terraforming}"
"Pellegrino Settlement","HIP 54692",0,"M",328,2,"Angelic Order of HIP 54692","Theocracy","Alliance","None","Civilian Outpost",1,1,1,0,1,1,0,"{}","{}","{}","{Agriculture}"
"Brust Vision","HIP 54692",0,"L",615,2,"Angelic Order of HIP 54692","Theocracy","Alliance","None","Coriolis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Animal Monitors, Aquaponic Systems, Biowaste}","{Hydrogen Fuel, Animal Meat, Grain}","{Consumer Technology, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Agriculture}"
"Akers Vision","Antinica",0,"L",308,2,"Antinica Godly Sect","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Nicollet City","Chang Yeh",0,"L",1548,2,"Chang Yeh Sanctuary","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Industrial}"
"Giles Orbital","Hikenk",0,"L",131,2,"Chapter of Hikenk","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Agriculture}"
"Malerba Orbital","Anotchadiae",0,"L",398,2,"Chapter of Isinor","Theocracy","Independent","None","Ocellus Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Extraction, Industrial}"
"Nesvadba Vision","HR 8666",0,"L",,,"Church of HR 8666","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,0,0,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Andree Settlement","Mannovalo",0,"M",256,2,"Faithful Cult of Mannovalo","Theocracy","Independent","None","Civilian Outpost",1,1,1,0,1,0,0,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Nachtigal Oasis","HIP 55469",0,"M",1258,2,"HIP 55469 Pirates","Theocracy","Independent","None","Civilian Outpost",1,1,1,0,1,1,0,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Thornycroft Penal colony","Mannona",0,"M",391,2,"Mannona Silver Boys","Prison Colony","Independent","None","Civilian Outpost",1,1,1,0,0,0,0,"{Microbial Furnaces, Bauxite, Lepidolite}","{Polymers, Copper, Titanium}","{Consumer Technology, Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Lucan Onion Head, Wuthielo Ku Froth}","{Refinery}"
"Bates Vision","Maroine",0,"L",,,"Maroine Theocracy","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,0,0,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Tucker Orbital","Sentii",0,"L",,,"Sublime Cult of Sentii","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Krusvar Vision","Templatz",0,"L",861,2,"Templatz Venerable Sect","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Polymers, Semiconductors, Synthetic Fabrics}","{Hydrogen Fuel, Biowaste, Limpet}","{Consumer Technology, Narcotics, Tobacco, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste}","{Terraforming}"
"Almagro Prospect","23 Delta Piscis Austrini",0,"L",2609,3,"Virtuous Faith of 23 Delta Piscis Austrini","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Anthony Vision","15 f Leonis",0,"M",1218,2,"15 f Leonis Faith","Theocracy","Independent","None","Civilian Outpost",1,1,1,0,1,1,0,"{Polymers, Copper, Natural Fabrics}","{Hydrogen Fuel, Crop Harvesters, Mineral Extractors}","{Consumer Technology, Narcotics, Tobacco, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste}","{Industrial}"
"Russell Oasis","HIP 60016",0,"L",,,"Chapter of HIP 60016","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Moorcock Gateway","Cuichit",0,"L",,,"Church of Cuichit","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Industrial, Refinery}"
"Sucharitkul Vision","Contii",0,"L",80,2,"Contii Order","Theocracy","Independent","Boom","Coriolis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Gold, Palladium, Platinum}","{Liquor, Food Cartridges, Basic Medicines}","{Consumer Technology, Narcotics, Tobacco, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste}","{Industrial, Terraforming}"
"Hume Orbital","HIP 109067",0,"L",2892,3,"Cult of HIP 109067","Theocracy","Independent","None","Coriolis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{Consumer Technology, Narcotics, Tobacco, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Terraforming}"
"Gehrels Outpost","Caeresi",0,"M",1395,2,"Drug Empire of Caeresi","Prison Colony","Independent","None","Industrial Outpost",1,1,1,1,1,0,0,"{Explosives, Mineral Extractors, H.E. Suits}","{Bertrandite, Gallite, Lepidolite}","{Toxic Waste}","{Extraction}"
"Carlisle Oasis","Epomani",0,"L",26,2,"Epomani Theocracy","Theocracy","Independent","None","Ocellus Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Polymers, Semiconductors, Synthetic Fabrics}","{Hydrogen Fuel, Biowaste, Limpet}","{Consumer Technology, Narcotics, Tobacco, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Terraforming}"
"Lowry Orbital","Esuvit",0,"M",127,2,"Faithful Brotherhood of Esuvit","Theocracy","Independent","None","Civilian Outpost",1,1,1,0,1,1,0,"{}","{}","{}","{Industrial}"
"Wilhelm Vision","Esuvit",0,"L",55,2,"Faithful Brotherhood of Esuvit","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Spinrad Gateway","LP 711-43",0,"L",157,2,"Gang of LP 711-43","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Industrial, Refinery}"
"Serre Vision","HIP 65049",0,"L",,,"HIP 65049 Faith","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Silverberg Vision","HIP 68162",0,"M",631,2,"HIP 68162 Mission","Theocracy","Independent","None","Civilian Outpost",1,1,1,0,1,0,0,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Herndon Orbital","Jukat",0,"M",,,"Jukat Parish","Theocracy","Independent","None","Civilian Outpost",1,1,1,0,1,1,0,"{}","{}","{}","{Extraction, Refinery}"
"Vinogradov Port","Kigandan",0,"L",2359,3,"LTT 198 Order","Theocracy","Independent","None","Coriolis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Polymers, Titanium, Synthetic Fabrics}","{Crop Harvesters, Water Purifiers, Copper}","{Consumer Technology, Narcotics, Tobacco, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Industrial, Refinery}"
"Cook Gateway","Medzistha",0,"L",1622,2,"Medzistha Faith","Theocracy","Independent","None","Coriolis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Industrial}"
"Kummer Vision","Nugua",0,"L",59,2,"Nugua Revered Cult","Theocracy","Independent","None","Coriolis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Paul-Friedrichs Expedition Base Camp","Paul-Friedrichs Star",0,"L",224,2,"Paul-Friedrichs Star God-fearing Brotherhood","Theocracy","Federation","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Agriculture}"
"Vernadsky Colony","Alpha Chamaelontis",0,"M",2164,3,"Pi Mensae Brotherhood","Theocracy","Independent","Boom","Industrial Outpost",1,1,1,1,0,0,0,"{Microbial Furnaces, Bauxite, Lepidolite}","{Polymers, Copper, Titanium}","{Consumer Technology, Narcotics, Tobacco, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Extraction, Refinery}"
"Dann Vision","Ticua",0,"L",,,"Pious Brotherhood of Ticua","Theocracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
"Ahmed Orbital","Savas",0,"M",,,"Savas Sanctuary","Theocracy","Independent","None","Civilian Outpost",1,1,1,0,1,0,0,"{}","{}","{}","{Terraforming}"
 
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That's awesome Zoy, thanks! +100 Rep if i could. :)

I've got some long, long range exploring to do soon, but when I'm back I'm planning to fill an Asp or Conda with a ton of each legal-drug and a few of the other often illegal rares, and take a look around for a suitable new home for next years race. Thanks again.
 
I did a lot of rares trading in the past, a lot more interesting than the normal trade grinding! I produced a diagram of all the rare systems that I could find and this forum thread was the best source of info I could find - Thanks! :)

I haven't done any for a long time and I'm not likely to do much in the future so I thought I'd post the diagram (I have done so on the Elite Danger Community FB group for quite a while). This is a printable on a single A4 sheet, but you'll need good eyesight or glasses like me :)

Rares Network.jpg
 
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I did a lot of rares trading in the past, a lot more interesting than the normal trade grinding! I produced a diagram of all the rare systems that I could find and this forum thread was the best source of info I could find - Thanks! :)

I haven't done any for a long time and I'm not likely to do much in the future so I thought I'd post the diagram (I have done so on the Elite Danger Community FB group for quite a while). This is a printable on a single A4 sheet, but you'll need good eyesight or glasses like me :)

View attachment 74911

wow amazing job, wasn't showing up before as attachments were bugged!
 
Kappa Fornacis (Independent) - Harvestport (918ls) - Onion Head - 775cr - Max Allocation 17t - Illegal in some systems - Station has no black market

Max allocation is 8t now - but this is part of a just started community goal, so unsure wether that's just for one week.

Tanmark - Cassie-L-Peia (414ls) - Lucan Onion Head - 815cr - Max Allocation 12t - no longer available

It is available again, I got at least 3t, not sure about max allocation.
 
This CG in Noti is to add Master Chef's as a rare commodity to game right? Master Chef's sound like slaves? The thing is Noti's ruling faction is Democracy, democracies ban slaves so when/if this CG is successful it will not appear until the system is flipped to a faction that doesn't ban slaves!

News on Master Chefs, from the 1.5 Ships beta patch notes...

Default Ships 1.5 beta update - Patch notes
Hey everyone.

Here are the patch notes for the 1.5 "Ships" beta build. Remember to give it a really good test and leave your feedback here and your bugs here.

NEW CONTENT/FEATURES (1.5)

- Added Asp Scout
- Added Viper MkIV
- Added Federal Corvette
- Added Imperial Cutter
- Added Keelback

<snip>

- Master Chefs rare good added

.........
 
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That's awesome Zoy, thanks! +100 Rep if i could. :)

I've got some long, long range exploring to do soon, but when I'm back I'm planning to fill an Asp or Conda with a ton of each legal-drug and a few of the other often illegal rares, and take a look around for a suitable new home for next years race. Thanks again.

I collected a few illegal rares and visited Paul-Friedrichs Star & Thornycroft Penal Colony...

As expected, almost everything was illegal in PFS, but unfortunately it's an Anarchy, so no "illicit cargo" status, and I'm not sure if you would get scanned and fined in an Anarchy?

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In TPC all booze was legal, so not great either

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I decided to try a different approach on selecting suitable Stations - I have searched for similar criteria as before (Blackmarket, no permit etc.) but this time I have explicitly searched for Stations that claim to prohibit Liquor and Narcotics - I think this list might have better candidates

Tshang Hub in 23 Andromedae system looks very promising, they appear to prohibit the following...
{Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Performance Enhancers, Progenitor Cells, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Lucan Onion Head, Wuthielo Ku Froth, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}
...which I believe will mean almost all the 'often illegal' rares too

"name","system","needs_permit","max_landing_pad_size","distance_to_star","sc_est_mins","faction","government","allegiance","state","type","has_blackmarket","has_commodities","has_refuel","has_repair","has_rearm","has_outfitting","has_shipyard","prohibited_commodities","economies"
"Brust Vision","HIP 54692",0,"L",615,2,"Angelic Order of HIP 54692","Theocracy","Alliance","None","Coriolis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Consumer Technology, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Combat Stabilisers, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Agriculture}"
"Goran Gmitrovic","Ross 788",0,"L",102,2,"Independent Ross 788 Progressive Party","Democracy","Independent","None","Coriolis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Performance Enhancers, Progenitor Cells, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Industrial}"
"Brookes Abyss","Ross 788",0,"L",101,2,"Independent Ross 788 Progressive Party","Democracy","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Performance Enhancers, Progenitor Cells, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Industrial}"
"Shalatula Ring","Holvandalla",0,"L",85,2,"People's Holvandalla Liberals","Democracy","Independent","None","Coriolis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Performance Enhancers, Progenitor Cells, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste}","{Industrial}"
"Buffett Port","AR Lacertae",0,"L",351,2,"AR Lacertae Democrats","Democracy","Federation","None","Coriolis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Performance Enhancers, Progenitor Cells, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Lucan Onion Head}","{Industrial, Refinery}"
"Savery Port","Idinda",0,"L",425,2,"Liberals of Idinda","Corporate","Independent","None","Ocellus Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Performance Enhancers, Progenitor Cells, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Industrial}"
"Bernard Gateway","Idinda",0,"L",100,2,"Liberals of Idinda","Democracy","Federation","None","Orbis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Performance Enhancers, Progenitor Cells, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Onion Head, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Industrial}"
"Poindexter Hub","Idinda",0,"L",99,2,"Liberals of Idinda","Democracy","Federation","None","Orbis Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Performance Enhancers, Progenitor Cells, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Onion Head, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Agriculture}"
"Tshang Hub","23 Andromedae",0,"L",345,2,"New 23 Andromedae Independents","Corporate","Federation","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Performance Enhancers, Progenitor Cells, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Personal Weapons, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste, Lucan Onion Head, Wuthielo Ku Froth, Trinkets Of Hidden Fortune}","{Refinery}"
"Smith Port","Pathan",0,"L",204,2,"Pathan bridge systems","Corporate","Independent","None","Unknown Starport",1,1,1,1,1,1,1,"{Beer, Liquor, Narcotics, Tobacco, Wine, Combat Stabilisers, Performance Enhancers, Progenitor Cells, Imperial Slaves, Slaves, Battle Weapons, Toxic Waste}","{Agriculture}"

I've joined the Xelabara CG for now so had to sell my dodgy rares - I may do a bit more testing once the CG is complete
 
News on Master Chefs, from the 1.5 Ships beta patch notes...

Default Ships 1.5 beta update - Patch notes
Hey everyone.

Here are the patch notes for the 1.5 "Ships" beta build. Remember to give it a really good test and leave your feedback here and your bugs here.

NEW CONTENT/FEATURES (1.5)

- Added Asp Scout
- Added Viper MkIV
- Added Federal Corvette
- Added Imperial Cutter
- Added Keelback

<snip>

- Master Chefs rare good added

.........

ah, I'm parked up at founders world in 1.5 beta. I'll pop over and check as its not far :D
 
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