Naming our ships, how should it work

[Deleted member 38366]

Naming the Ships would work more or less exactly like the Forum Filter, just like there sure were limitations to CMDR- or Kickstarter-named NPC Names.

Obivously there'd be some funny guys with alot of creativity - but if in doubt the "Report Player" function would serve that in the same ways like seeing "family unfriendly" lines in the Text Chat or hearing it on Voice Comms.
(and if they have no problems with the unfiltered Text/Voice chat... Ship naming using PEGI-12 filters would be almost a non-issue to the same tune)

 

[X-Terminator]

How it works - you think up a name and remember it.
If you decide to change it - change it and remember it.
IT WORKS!

 

[Grumpy181155]

Greetings

........ What needs to be brought in is the ability to buy second hand ships which would require each ship to have its own log.

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What! You think I would want to buy a second hand piece of......... that has only done a measly 5 million light years and driven by a little old lady on Sundays? Who knows what she has been doing on that Commanders seat.

 

[Witcherman]

I don't care as long as I can reserve "The Good Ship Lollipop" for my Cutter...

 

[Cynaqq]

The ships having to have unique names would not be necessary since it's something that happens in the real world. There are many people with boats that have the same name.

I think one thing that could be done to limit the profanity and storage space for the database, is to let every CMDR have a slot with limited number of characters and an allowance of one name per ship class. This way people would think more carefully what to name their ships. Once you name a ship, say a cobra, 'something' and click I'm sure, then every cobra you own after that point will be named 'something' with no ability to change. Of course it would be possible to correct typos with support tickets but in FD's discretion so people won't be able to abuse it.

What do you think, would this work?

 

[Irisa Nyira]

Well, you can tell this to Phuc dat Bich whose fb account has been deleted several times due to humans who felt offended and reported him to other humans who didn't consider this to be his real name for one second.

Amusingly enough, it turns out that "Phuc Dat Bich" is not his real name after all. It turns out he is a prankster (probably not) named Joe Carr instead.

 

[Kicks]

Well, you can tell this to Phuc dat Bich whose fb account has been deleted several times due to humans who felt offended and reported him to other humans who didn't consider this to be his real name for one second.

..which was found to be a hoax...

However I think the meaning wasn't lost on us as I'm sure it can be annoying for non-English language-speakers to have their names banned due to it being offensive to us

EDIT: Ninja'd by Irisa Nyira.

 

[OamodSias]

<snip>
My ship will be "The Signal" for it cannot be stopped,
inspired by "Firefly".

You could turn off the power...

 

[W4rSkuLL]

I think when you buy a new ship. You get to name it. Thats a good solution. And you can change the name of your ship 3 times after, in case others have your ship name. To get name on ship you already have. Just use the rename option. Maybe also have a clan tag which you can change forever, in case you leave/rejoin clans/groups. I think E.D will be sucked in by the MOM genre in some way in the future. Well, it already have so being able to at least name your ship and have a clan (corporation tag sounds more Elite ) tag would be great.

 

[OamodSias]

I think when you buy a new ship. You get to name it. Thats a good solution. And you can change the name of your ship 3 times after, in case others have your ship name. To get name on ship you already have. Just use the rename option. Maybe also have a clan tag which you can change forever, in case you leave/rejoin clans/groups. I think E.D will be sucked in by the MOM genre in some way in the future. Well, it already have so being able to at least name your ship and have a clan (corporation tag sounds more Elite ) tag would be great.

I think FD need to decide if they're making a single player online game, or a multiple online game and stop trying to make a single player online game with some multiplayer features. ED is ripe for things like corporations and organisations.

Scenario:
Corporations like the Sirius Technological Concern - a think-tank of players whose focus is research and development; an entire corporation of players at grunt to management levels, all working together - building and researching new technologies which they can then sell on the galactic market.
Corporations like Mars Solar Technologies - a powerful organisation who produce high powered energy weapons and, like their rival STC, sell them on the galactic stage.
Both have established space stations and bases around or on their respective homeworlds - built by the corporations themselves.
And, from time to time, these two powerful entities go to war as they fight for control of a resource rich planet.

It's incredibly silly not to cater for clans IMHO - in a game like ED, players would undoubtedly create organisations and companies and corporations - it would create a sense of unity, and unified goal (perhaps a space station, or a planet base the corporation must work towards, research, exploration, defence and trading).

One day perhaps.

 

[Koen]

I do not care if somebody gives their ship an inappropriate name, if some players want to come across as immature idiots it is their problem. Restrict their naming options, and they will still send offensive messages in text.

In other threads about ship names I suggested that they simply give you 5 slots for words, and a dictionary of words.* A lot of ship names are suggestive, funny, double entendres, etc. Control the vocabulary and you've limited 90% of the problem.

I do not like that idea: (1) some people will always be creative/cunning enough to find inappropriate combinations of innocent words and (2) my Cobra is named "Dancing Groigan" (players of Archimedes Elite might get the reference) and I doubt very much much that the (non-)word "Groigan" would be in the list.

so, how exactly do you differ between names that may be offensive to one particular region/society/you name it and ship names which may be totally acceptable in another part of the world and/or mean something else?
picture related:
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That picture seems to be a hoax.

 

[Mephane]

Well, then someone could grief you just by reporting your ship name.

If someone reports a ship name and the ship name is inappropriate, the name gets wiped and the CMDR loses their 10m/cr. If the ship name is OK, then the CMDR making the report gets 10m/cr taken out of their account for filing a wrongful report.

Why so super-harsh? Offensive names are typically quite subjective. For example, I personally see no issue with using the F-word, but you can bet it would not be allowed.
If a ship name gets reported for being inappropriate, the offender could just get an email, their ship name gets reset to whatever the default is when you buy a new ship (e.g. just "CMDR XYZ's Cobra MK III"), and only on repeat offenses are measurements taken (e.g. shadowban).

Also, I want ship names not to be unique. I'd rather see three Millenium Falcon's a day than enter a race with whoever can buy the most Sidewinders to reserve the all of the best names immediately.

And setting a name should not be expensive, let's say 50,000cr, but you should only be allowed to change a ship's name, for example, once per month.

 

[SpitTheDog]

I plan to use my password as my ship name and then when I forget it other kindly players can remind me.

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

I think a idea that would work. Have the players who payed for DDF access and Private backer have access of ship names so they can prove or reject the names. So they could monitor ship names. So they can reject foul language or names that could offend people.

[video=youtube;xgS4I-47mJc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgS4I-47mJc[/video]

 

[CakeEngine]

Ok, Phuc dat Bich appears to be hoax but nevertheless the argument itself still stands as Kicks already pointed out.
If your filter for user generated content relies on user reports, you're sailing dangerous waters. You can never be sure to cover all offenses, nor that you don't offend someone by false flagging. There's only one thing for sure; that there will be drama and you eventually end up putting your food into the mouth of your PR.

As excessively restrictive as it sounds, but there really is just one solution which doesn't shove you off the balcony:
whitelisting

In other threads about ship names I suggested that they simply give you 5 slots for words, and a dictionary of words.* A lot of ship names are suggestive, funny, double entendres, etc. Control the vocabulary and you've limited 90% of the problem. The rest: just make it extremely expensive to have an inappropriate name.

 

[OrLoK]

Hello there

If people want to use immature or offensive names, i say let em, its a great indicator to me that the said person is a bit of a fool and to be treated appropriately.

A general report button just as all forums have should be enough to stop anything too hideous.

Simply appoint volunteer mods as we have in most forums (or use the existing mods if they wish).

Rgds

LoK

 

[SpitTheDog]

Hello there

If people want to use immature or offensive names, i say let em, its a great indicator to me that the said person is a bit of a fool and to be treated appropriately.

A general report button just as all forums have should be enough to stop anything too hideous.

Simply appoint volunteer mods as we have in most forums (or use the existing mods if they wish).

Rgds

LoK

I vote for one of the hardpoint options being a Class 3 Profanity Transgressionator

 

[mill4176]

I like the idea of paying for ship names like you do the paint jobs. This way you could get your ship named and vetted through FD. As an added bonus it would show up as a slot similar to the paint jobs in outfitting so you can take the name with you from ship to ship.

 

[CMDR Kantos Kan]

I read a lot of comments about how to handle offensive names. Why making a rules for offensive names in the first place? I mean, it's just a name for a ship. If you can't get over a ship name in a game, then I think you have some problems...

If someone would come up with a name like "Phuk dat Bich", I mean, how does that prevent me from fully enjoying the game? How likely is it going to be that I will see this ship in the game? And if I was to see it, I would just think that a moron would name a ship with a name like that... But, that's just me.

 

[OamodSias]

I read a lot of comments about how to handle offensive names. Why making a rules for offensive names in the first place? I mean, it's just a name for a ship. If you can't get over a ship name in a game, then I think you have some problems...

If someone would come up with a name like "Phuk dat Bich", I mean, how does that prevent me from fully enjoying the game? How likely is it going to be that I will see this ship in the game? And if I was to see it, I would just think that a moron would name a ship with a name like that... But, that's just me.

"Oh. Well, it's okay with me because I just ignore it so that means you guys must have issues. "
What kind of messed up logic is that?
Just because people find a ship/Cmdr name offensive and would like rules implemented preventing it, does NOT mean that they have a problem.

Sexualised/rude/disrespectful/racist/bigoted ship/cmdr names should be removed from the game with extreme prejudice, imho. I personally do not want to encounter any of the aforementioned types of names when I play. It lowers the games value and maturity level in my eyes; it paints the entire game with a dirty brush. I do not want my game experience ruined (no matter for how short a period of time) by some silly little prepubescent whose maturity level extends to toilet humour and whose naming conventions tend to rotate around their manhood, usually of a misogynistic nature.

I don't have a problem... *twitch*