Been a Naughty boy!

Ease up cowboy, i COMPLETELY get the game, and long may the game live, i love it, you have missed the point completely or jumped in feet first with out reading the whole thread! Like any good trader, i merely asked about the Fine and what happens if i get scanned and asked if i killed myself in a sidy would it disappear, and suddenly i get people jumping down my throat cause they don't like the way i am playing...Get real man, i play the game Elite Dangerous fully understanding the word 'Dangerous', i live by the sword and die by the sword, if it means i have a Flashing sign around my neck saying 'Interdict me as you will get a 1.7 Million payout', i'll pay the damn fine. Not as if i can't afford it as i did another 5 runs after getting caught, so what a measly 1.7 Mill.

I was asking advice on an aspect of the game, not the meaning of life (42 BTW).

I certainly don't require a lecture on game ethics from you thanks!
Repped for the Hitchhikers reference...

Don't think 1 player counts as "people jumping down your throat" though... in case there's a misunderstanding, I wasn't doing that... play how you want... I'd just prefer if the option wasn't there...
 
Repped for the Hitchhikers reference...

Don't think 1 player counts as "people jumping down your throat" though... in case there's a misunderstanding, I wasn't doing that... play how you want... I'd just prefer if the option wasn't there...

I agree with this. It doesn't seem to make much sense that you can so easily circumvent the system in place to stop people committing crimes. It's already laughably easy to evade.
 
I did read it thanks, read all of it, and the responses :) wouldn't call 2 lines a lecture.

You did however bring up the idea of trashing a SW which unless you were considering it wouldn't have been brought up which means my post stands, play the game or crack the game its your choice really dosent effect me, just my 2 credits.

Crack the Game....WTFF are you on about man, get real or butt out! Who mention cracking the game...Wow you get all sorts on these forums!

Sorry i asked a decent question, which i did not know the answer to, so i asked what would happen if i, i did not say i wwould buy a sidy and crash it.

My point in all of this is i have a LARGER fine against my name, so will this follow me around for ever of if i die, (By what ever means) will it go.

As it happens more knowledgeable people than you answered the question perfectly, and i thank them, and as it happens i don't want this 1.7 Mill have a go at me tag around my Cmdr name, so i'll pay the fine and be done with it, then just do an extra run to make up for it.

BTW, a Lecture can be any amount of lines!!

Nuff said from me to you, but cowboy you need to cool it!
 
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Welcome to the Fine/Bounty club. I asked this question earlier in the week as i was getting fined quite a few times..... and I now have a 9.3 mil bounty on my head, which is bonkers.

Me smuggling = massive fines (admittedly its for smuggling Imperial Slaves - 420 a haul)
Pirates killing CMDRs = 6000 fine

I know which one should carry more weight.....
 
Repped for the Hitchhikers reference...

Don't think 1 player counts as "people jumping down your throat" though... in case there's a misunderstanding, I wasn't doing that... play how you want... I'd just prefer if the option wasn't there...

My Aplogise to you man, no offence meant, but others have wound me up saying i have cracked the game...Really!

Thanks for the rep and some back to you!

Fly safe Cmdr!
 
Welcome to the Fine/Bounty club. I asked this question earlier in the week as i was getting fined quite a few times..... and I now have a 9.3 mil bounty on my head, which is bonkers.

Me smuggling = massive fines (admittedly its for smuggling Imperial Slaves - 420 a haul)
Pirates killing CMDRs = 6000 fine

I know which one should carry more weight.....

Agreed. At the very least actual pirates (rather than griefers) should get the value of the cargo they've stolen added to their bounty. Anyone who destroys a ship should get the ship's rebuy cost added to their bounty.
 
Crack the Game....WTFF are you on about man, get real or butt out! Who mention cracking the game...Wow you get all sorts on these forums!

Sorry i asked a decent question, which i did not know the answer to, so i asked what would happen if i, i did not say i wwould buy a sidy and crash it.

My point in all of this is i have a LARGER fine against my name, so will this follow me around for ever of if i die, (By what ever means) will it go.

As it happens more knowledgeable people than you answered the question perfectly, and i thank them, and as it happens i don't want this 1.7 Mill have a go at me tag around my Cmdr name, so i'll pay the fine and be done with it, then just do an extra run to make up for it.

BTW, a Lecture can be any amount of lines!!

Nuff said from me to you, but cowboy you need to cool it!

Lol im loving this conversation, especially the last line, i've been pretty cavalier and calm with my responses, your a fiery one though! If i went into a police station asking for forensic counter measures to get away with murder, then just said "I'm not saying I'm going to kill just asking a question", I'm guessing they may be a little suspicious if you follow.

Anyway i'll say it again, i don't care what you do, its your game, like the first person to respond to your thread, personally i wouldn't consider operation Sidewinder.

Fly safe, cowboy!

/o>
 
Welcome to the Fine/Bounty club. I asked this question earlier in the week as i was getting fined quite a few times..... and I now have a 9.3 mil bounty on my head, which is bonkers.

Me smuggling = massive fines (admittedly its for smuggling Imperial Slaves - 420 a haul)
Pirates killing CMDRs = 6000 fine

I know which one should carry more weight.....

9.3 mill.....WOW, makes my paltry 1.7 a mere feather in the wind! I carry 432 a time, and thats what i got done for by the coppers. As a born trader, i agree murder is far more serious than smuggling!

I'll pay mine off tonight as i don't want some Pirate cashing in on my behalf!
 
9.3 mill.....WOW, makes my paltry 1.7 a mere feather in the wind! I carry 432 a time, and thats what i got done for by the coppers. As a born trader, i agree murder is far more serious than smuggling!

I'll pay mine off tonight as i don't want some Pirate cashing in on my behalf!

...and where would you be thinking of docking to pay that off..? *shifty eyes*
 
Lol im loving this conversation, especially the last line, i've been pretty cavalier and calm with my responses, your a fiery one though! If i went into a police station asking for forensic counter measures to get away with murder, then just said "I'm not saying I'm going to kill just asking a question", I'm guessing they may be a little suspicious if you follow.

Anyway i'll say it again, i don't care what you do, its your game, like the first person to respond to your thread, personally i wouldn't consider operation Sidewinder.

Fly safe, cowboy!

/o>

What ever!

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...and where would you be thinking of docking to pay that off..? *shifty eyes*

Ha Ha, begins with a L, has a t followed by another t, then followed by a number... not that many to choose from!
 
Yep got caught smuggling Imp Slaves to a Black Market, Naughty me, but i must feed the children ;)

So my question is, I have a 1.7 Million pound fine, not Bounty, so will it show up on a KWS scan?

Why bother leaving it as a bounty ? Just pay it off straight away and go do another run.
You've lost 1 run's profits ... not really much of a dis-incentive !!

But, as others have pointed out, the whole "getting caught smuggling" problem is very underwhelming, with very little consequences.

Smuggling should have a "shoot on sight" policy by the cops, making it something you actually have to work at ... rather than normal trading, which should (and does) give lower profits.
 
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As an aside, but hopefully on topic, why not silent run into the station. I've only done a couple of smuggling runs myself but I was in a Conda (as you appear to be Wasp0) followed Mara's advice (thanks) from another thread and lined up the station entrance, switched on silent running at 8k and requested docking at 7.5k.

Made it into the station with no scan at all. Got in the station with heat just over 80%, switched silent running off. Totally acceptable in game mechanics, no fines, no problems.
 
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A fine will not show up until it becomes a bounty. A 1.7Mcr fine will become a bounty if not paid.

The 'killing yourself in a sidewinder' thing has a couple of caveats. Killing yourself or by NPC proxy doesn't remove a bounty nor a fine. It renders the bounty dormant. A dormant bounty does not show up on KWS and expires just like a normal bounty or can be reset to active if you're scanned by that faction. In both cases expiration means it becomes a legacy fine. Legacy fines have no direct consequences but they have influence on your relations with that faction. So if you have any plans with that faction you're going to pay it either way sooner or later. No need to put a sidewinder on top of it.

If you want to go for the sidewinder thing you should find a player to kill you. He collects the bounty and it's gone.
 
As an aside, but hopefully on topic, why not silent run into the station. I've only done a couple of smuggling runs myself but I was in a Conda (as you appear to be Wasp0) followed Mara's advice (thanks) from another thread and lined up the station entrance, switched on silent running at 8k and requested docking at 7.5k.

Made it into the station with no scan at all. Got in the station with heat just over 80%, switched silent running off. Totally acceptable in game mechanics, no fines, no problems.

Thanks will try this out, currently firing heatsinks off keeping the temp down below 10. this seems to work, but last night i got complacent and distracted by the forum i was reading at the sametime, came out of Sc to the side of the Station right into a bunch of coppers, that got my attention all-right, but too late by then.

Yep your right in Little Annie trading.

Lesson learnt:

Don't get complacent with this game it bites back!

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A fine will not show up until it becomes a bounty. A 1.7Mcr fine will become a bounty if not paid.

The 'killing yourself in a sidewinder' thing has a couple of caveats. Killing yourself or by NPC proxy doesn't remove a bounty nor a fine. It renders the bounty dormant. A dormant bounty does not show up on KWS and expires just like a normal bounty or can be reset to active if you're scanned by that faction. In both cases expiration means it becomes a legacy fine. Legacy fines have no direct consequences but they have influence on your relations with that faction. So if you have any plans with that faction you're going to pay it either way sooner or later. No need to put a sidewinder on top of it.

If you want to go for the sidewinder thing you should find a player to kill you. He collects the bounty and it's gone.

Thanks, have some rep!
 
Chaff works as well. Fit two, map them to your primary and secondary fire and keep them active whilst you're in Station range. They block scans (though it only seems to work against NPCs if you fire it before they start scanning).
 
Well I guess they need to target you to scan, can't target then can't scan. Good idea though.

Aye, but against a player you can block them mid-scan with a chaff launch (it delays the scan for the duration, during which time the scan timer depletes), which is why I specified you have to catch it at the start.
Not tried it recently, right enough, so it may have been fixed so the NPCs don't get an unfair advantage on that front.
 
Aye, but against a player you can block them mid-scan with a chaff launch (it delays the scan for the duration, during which time the scan timer depletes), which is why I specified you have to catch it at the start.
Not tried it recently, right enough, so it may have been fixed so the NPCs don't get an unfair advantage on that front.

Interesting, I'll give this a go tonight!
 
A fine will not show up until it becomes a bounty. A 1.7Mcr fine will become a bounty if not paid.

The 'killing yourself in a sidewinder' thing has a couple of caveats. Killing yourself or by NPC proxy doesn't remove a bounty nor a fine. It renders the bounty dormant. A dormant bounty does not show up on KWS and expires just like a normal bounty or can be reset to active if you're scanned by that faction. In both cases expiration means it becomes a legacy fine. Legacy fines have no direct consequences but they have influence on your relations with that faction. So if you have any plans with that faction you're going to pay it either way sooner or later. No need to put a sidewinder on top of it.

If you want to go for the sidewinder thing you should find a player to kill you. He collects the bounty and it's gone.

It will become a legacy fine immediately if a player kills you. Just remember if you are not careful a legacy fine can come back to haunt y9u if you lose a ship that last docked in that system when it becomes a part of your rebuy
 
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