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grefing on planets
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Don't you just hate it when you post a joke comment and someone takes it seriously?
However, since we are being serious, just keep in mind what we already know. Bases have defenses. Anyone sitting above a base shooting at people will receive the same warm welcome from the base that someone sat outside a station gets when they start firing on someone in the no fire zone.
From what we understand so far, base defenses are going to be pretty nasty against ships if the footage of outpost attacks were any indication. That's part of the point of the SRV. You get into the SRV to take out outposts because attacking an outpost/base is probably very very dangerous.
So, since we are speculating, i'd guess, while some griefing is possible, and someone will always find a way to do it, i feel like OP has jumped to conclusions that are probably not valid.
Having said that, based on your comments, just keep in mind, every time FD have made a change to clamp down on some form of griefing, its caused more widespread upset among players than the initial problem caused.
Missiles into stations. Missiles nerfed.
Cargo drops near stations. Drops nerfed.
etc.
In other words, be careful what you wish for. You might just get it
Since I'm addressing a self described RPG-sociopath; -t's griefing to us non-sociopaths...
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Missiles into stations. Missiles nerfed.
Cargo drops near stations. Drops nerfed.
etc.
In other words, be careful what you wish for. You might just get it
Yep, or traffic lights and speed limits in an universe with the size of our NGC galaxy with a few thousand commanders flying around, ROFLMAO.
If griefing is doing damage to other peoples virtual space hardware, well, there is an easy way around that. Take away all guns, make shields indestructible, problem solved. Easy.
Don't you just hate it when you post a joke comment and someone takes it seriously?
However, since we are being serious, just keep in mind what we already know. Bases have defenses. Anyone sitting above a base shooting at people will receive the same warm welcome from the base that someone sat outside a station gets when they start firing on someone in the no fire zone.
From what we understand so far, base defenses are going to be pretty nasty against ships if the footage of outpost attacks were any indication. That's part of the point of the SRV. You get into the SRV to take out outposts because attacking an outpost/base is probably very very dangerous.
So, since we are speculating, i'd guess, while some griefing is possible, and someone will always find a way to do it, i feel like OP has jumped to conclusions that are probably not valid.
Having said that, based on your comments, just keep in mind, every time FD have made a change to clamp down on some form of griefing, its caused more widespread upset among players than the initial problem caused.
Missiles into stations. Missiles nerfed.
Cargo drops near stations. Drops nerfed.
etc.
In other words, be careful what you wish for. You might just get it
It wasn't a joke comment just because you loosely wrapped it in "humor" and stuck a smiley at the end of it.
You're a mod, you should know badly veiled sarcasm when you see it, i do.
And what you describe at the end with the missile nerfs, cargo drops and (let me add) speed limit is precisely what everyone would like to avoid.
And if FD hadn't been so terribly naive and spent some thought on these things BEFORE they happened, then perhaps some of it could have been avoided.
As for OP: Ok, your perception is your own of course, i didn't feel he jumped to conclusions, more like trying to raise attention.
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It's already been explained by the Devs that the surface installations have guns that are designed to point up. Indeed, they made a point of saying that they have trouble pointing towards the ground, which is presumably why skimmers are providing defence from surface-borne attack. I wouldn't worry about being 'griefed' from above. I'm sure the big guns will do their job.
Well this is new.. Another day, another griefing thread on FD forums.. Oh dear..
Yeah, funny you should ask.. I know the feeling ALL too well..
Yeah, funny you should ask.. I know the feeling
ALL too well..
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Hurricane Moon
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i laugh in the face of station or base defenses......
sounds like a fun tactic...especially if it was a player owned base,keep and protect stuff anyway you can,if the game allows it,its valid imo
its up to ones self to avoid death
sounds like a fun tactic...especially if it was a player owned base,keep and protect stuff anyway you can,if the game allows it,its valid imo
its up to ones self to avoid death
They put in solo and private group into the game much to my dismay so players could opt out. It yet further ticks me off that people complain about percieved 'griefing' and don't use it. The game doesn't revolve around those who are risk averse. Elite Dangerous -
I tell you if I had a pound for every time I've seen people cry griefer wolf on these forums I'd be a very rich man..
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I dunno the exact number of active players in that group, and frankly I don't care. However last time I checked the total was less than 2% of the player base. To infer that (in Open) everyone else endlessly picks on others or whatever other garbage the rational is these days, well its laughably inaccurate. I meet alsorts of people in Open, the good and bad; its called reality.
One thing for sure is that those who do moan this whole issue up have had FD catering to their every complaint.. < 2% of the playerbase! Its rather hard to fathom in the 400 billion systems there are in game. And the mud slinging never stops either.
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For every person who automatically jumps to the term 'griefing' for any and all negative player interaction, there is someone who goes to the other extreme and insists that there is no possible thing as 'griefing' and that if a loophole can be exploited to annoy other players, it's fair game.
...and for each of those there seems to be 10 or so people who start ranting 'Not another griefer thread!' without reading and providing a useful comment.
I read every post carefully, and that's ten or so minutes of my life that I won't get back.
The premise of the thread is flawed; the comments are mostly ill informed. The one little humorous post provoked an embarrassingly earnest, humourless response. What's not to like?
Don't you just hate it when you post a joke comment and someone takes it seriously?
However, since we are being serious, just keep in mind what we already know. Bases have defenses. Anyone sitting above a base shooting at people will receive the same warm welcome from the base that someone sat outside a station gets when they start firing on someone in the no fire zone.
From what we understand so far, base defenses are going to be pretty nasty against ships if the footage of outpost attacks were any indication. That's part of the point of the SRV. You get into the SRV to take out outposts because attacking an outpost/base is probably very very dangerous.
So, since we are speculating, i'd guess, while some griefing is possible, and someone will always find a way to do it, i feel like OP has jumped to conclusions that are probably not valid.
Having said that, based on your comments, just keep in mind, every time FD have made a change to clamp down on some form of griefing, its caused more widespread upset among players than the initial problem caused.
Missiles into stations. Missiles nerfed.
Cargo drops near stations. Drops nerfed.
etc.
In other words, be careful what you wish for. You might just get it
Thank you, this was what i wounder. now i know.
yes please , still dont see the griefing part and that ppl cant fight back and are helpless is you just speculating cause beta isnt out yet, there also what is it like a trilloen planets to land?
your english is fine btw
Hey, guys...hey guys....HEY GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did none of you read this post by Sugarat? No Fire Zone was clear on the last vid from David on Europa, planetary starports have the same mechanisms as orbital stations do, so this ain't a concern around them.
And yes, it was a valid concern, since FD already screwed that one up before, multiple times no less. And ANYONE who denies we have griefers in this game, odds are, you ARE the griefer someone has run across. Just because the game mechanics do NOT stop certain actions doesn't make them allowed. Funny how griefers ALWAYS use that argument 'the game doesn't stop me, so it's allowed!' to defend their actions. That's been happening since the days of Quake, people spawn camping and claiming it was part of the game and allowed because the game didn't stop it. Until Mr Carmack, who designed the game, made clear his view on that, in words I can't use on these forums. That's been repeated many times over the past 2 decades too, griefers claiming that their actions were allowed because the game didn't prevent them, and developers stating in no uncertain terms exactly how wrong the griefers were. We already know what David thinks of such people, he's been pretty clear on that, but we also know that Elite games have ALWAYS had an extremely over zealous and extremely powerful law enforcement powers that took care of anyone doing wrong..in a single player game! We have the basic bones of that law enforcement power in Elite Dangerous currently, they don't have the power to really be effective...yet. BGS ain't up and running properly, law and order system is definitely not up and running properly because you can sit just outside the No Fire Zone at Gorbachev station and kill system authority vessels FROM that station all day long and STILL dock at that station for repairs and rearming.
Go on CMDR Mini, Cosmos, tell me that THAT is working as intended and that means there's no way you can grief in this game. I'm sure both of you, and others, will say just that, but you know it's a lie, that's not how it's supposed to work, but the systems aren't in place yet for it to work properly.
Funny how the people who scream loud and longly about there being NO griefing possible in this game also scream loud and longly against increasing the power of the system authorities...
Nobody said you are guaranteed easy fun. Nowhere in the EULA does it explicitly state this. For some, overcoming conflict and opposition is fun.
Aww....someones wittle feewings have been hurt. Take a break, have some biscuits and tea...and accept that people are going to kill other people. The game requires big boy pants to be worn everywhere..pull them up and quit yer whining! I have been interdicted 10 times in a row! 10 Times! On my way to a station that was 30 ls from the star! 10 TIMES! By an NPC. THAT IS THE DEFINITION OF GRIEFING! There is no griefing in this game....just a bunch of bad AI NPC's. As many have been told before...just use your IMAGINATION! Everyone is an NPC! <of course...when I come here to whine...this line of reasoning is unacceptable and griefing needs to be stopped..but that doesn't need to be discussed at this time!>
I think the SRVs will be to small for ships to target them, while the stations id hope will have large anti capital guns.
