Screens displaying an alternate view from the main window is called PiP (Picture in Picture) and is very resource intensive, even for a small additional "window". The best way to demo it is as follows: Take your current frame-rate. Must be somewhere between 45-60 on decent hardware, yeah? Now halve it. In a ring/asteroid belt? Take another 5-10 frames off. On a planet? Take 15ish off. And of course, given that this is FD we're talking about, you can kiss an additional 10 frames goodbye just because (they can't even get LODs and AA working correctly, if at all, so you expect them to manage PiP HOW?).
So why do we need to face a ship to tell who's in it?
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Screens displaying an alternate view from the main window is called PiP (Picture in Picture) and is very resource intensive, even for a small additional "window". The best way to demo it is as follows: Take your current frame-rate. Must be somewhere between 45-60 on decent hardware, yeah? Now halve it. In a ring/asteroid belt? Take another 5-10 frames off. On a planet? Take 15ish off. And of course, given that this is FD we're talking about, you can kiss an additional 10 frames goodbye just because (they can't even get LODs and AA working correctly, if at all, so you expect them to manage PiP HOW?).
Gotta keep it that way or even more people would start complaining that it's not dangerous enough, not that I'd agree with them since the only thing that keeps you from running amok is your savings and your own preference of running amok or not. Meaning the laughable 6k bounty for senseless murder here.
Since it's supposed to be meant toxic and dangerous could one start wondering why there's a penalty to being with? XD
Maybe with multicrew we will get the option to let co-pilots scan other ships independently from where our ship is facing... here's to hope!
I was having trouble imagining just what Another person in a ship would be doing, but this is one damn great idea.
Because the logic for a Conda being forced to drag around 160T of sensors is that they are REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY GOOD sensors.
And the logic for having to face them is that 1000 years in the future no one has ever heard of a rotating radar.
*facepalm*
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Maybe with Multicrew a large ship like a Corvette, Cutter, or Anaconda can carry something like a sidewinder with A grade sensors and they would link their sensors together. So the sidewinder can basically fly around and server like an AWACS. And maybe it could be controlled by the AI.
Too much to hope for?
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Maybe with multicrew we will get the option to let co-pilots scan other ships independently from where our ship is facing... here's to hope!
There's hoping for too much, like world peace, and then there's you guy's hope : /
I think it's more realistic to assume the co-pilot in our cobra, python, whatever, will be able to target ships in the scan cone independly of our own targeting and not mess that up for the scan to be done, and that'd be it.
Unless turrets will become mannable, then maybe, juuust maybe though.
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InMemoriamSirocco
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mannable turrets are a must-have for multicrew ships.
Scanning a ship for cargo I would agree with when you have to track the target.
But finding out if a ship is wanted has nothing todo with the Scanning process. Its not like your Ship is going to tell another ship you are WANTED that information comes from the Galactic Police.
So as long as you have the target selected it should not matter if you are facing them or not, you are requesting info from a data source.
I would prefer that you could buy a On Board computer with X slots, and then buy modules for these slots.
e.g.
Target Module ( lvl 1 ) - wanted in the current system.
Target Module ( lvl 2 ) - wanted status is surrounding systems.
Target Module ( lvl 3 ) - wanted status check in current ( e.g Federation systems )
Target Module ( lvl 4 ) - wanted status check in all systems.
This would free up the KWS scanner
Other modules as these are just software based and do not require hardware slots.
Docking Module.
Trade Module.
But finding out if a ship is wanted has nothing todo with the Scanning process. Its not like your Ship is going to tell another ship you are WANTED that information comes from the Galactic Police.
So as long as you have the target selected it should not matter if you are facing them or not, you are requesting info from a data source.
I would prefer that you could buy a On Board computer with X slots, and then buy modules for these slots.
e.g.
Target Module ( lvl 1 ) - wanted in the current system.
Target Module ( lvl 2 ) - wanted status is surrounding systems.
Target Module ( lvl 3 ) - wanted status check in current ( e.g Federation systems )
Target Module ( lvl 4 ) - wanted status check in all systems.
This would free up the KWS scanner
Other modules as these are just software based and do not require hardware slots.
Docking Module.
Trade Module.
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They make "game" out of stupid mechanics instead of making actual game.
Nice comment
. So question for you...Do you want them to not do any of the scanning at all and make you face everything first or to simply scan everything so you don't need to face anything?
Seems like you are simply taking a shot at the game rather than commenting on the topic itself.
I don't see why I should fly, aim or shoot at all in this game. I should just select the target I want destroyed and the advanced 3302 AI will sort things out for me in ways better than a mere human brain could handle.
I'm with you on that one. Or I will be as soon as my AI finishes typing this message to you and navigates me over there.
I instructed a bot to rep you.I'm with you on that one. Or I will be as soon as my AI finishes typing this message to you and navigates me over there.
The generic information is easily accessible to low fidelity scanners: ship type, heading, range, etc. The image is there for convenience of recognition. It's not an actual image of the vessel.
You need to point your detailed scanners at it to get a specific ID from the ship. Then you get the cross-referenced database info. For your convenience, the detailed scanners are aligned with your crosshairs.
Cheers,
Drew.
If they want it to be a game play thing, then make it a game. Pointing your ship at something is not gameplay and adds nothing to the game. They could have made you use your scanner console to lock onto the ship and provide a minigame to run your scanner but instead, we just get to point at things. We point at ships, we point at planets but we do nothing except wait.
I pointed a ship at a star once, apparently I was exploring.
I assume you only ever load your ship with turrets and use the docking computer too?
Out of interest, which way do you face when you play tennis?
For the same reasons why they give us pointy ships rather than saucer or spherical ships where our cockpit is inside it and has no need to face in any direction. The ships have fronts because that makes sense. We travel in the direction it points, we see what we are pointing at, other stuff is scanned/discovered without needing to point at it so that we know there is something that might be worth pointing our ship at or quite possibly pointing away from as quickly as possible..
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