I sympathise with you, sure, a game is not RL, and escapism is just that, as it should be.
I'm looking for my home in the stars, a place where reason shines.
My original question was: Any militant atheist societies in E D?
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I sympathise with you, sure, a game is not RL, and escapism is just that, as it should be.
I'm looking for my home in the stars, a place where reason shines.
My original question was: Any militant atheist societies in E D?
Based on "An aggressive method of delivering atheism, politically entrenched, socially encouraged, educated into every fibre of existence." a Dictatorship
Sorry, but you are just wrong.
A Theocracy is a system of government in which priests rule in the name of God or a god.
Atheism is disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
A Militant Atheist has an extreme hostility towards religious theism, and entails a desire to see religion suppressed by force.
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No, I disagree. A dictatorship is government by a dictator, not an ideology.
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Maybe not a person, but possibly an entity.
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You could still have advanced morality and social justice within that kind of dictatorship.
Ahem, look no further than Jim Jones.
He... was an atheist. And he had a cult. And he killed everyone in his cult with cyanide poisoning and murdered a congressman and other people.
It was a VERY freaky cult, too. But make no mistake, he himself said he was an atheist.
It is a religion unto itself. Like it or not. Deal with it.
You are correct, and while the humans argue themselves silly over the finer points, it will all come to nothing.
Most likely.
The question was asked, what happened after that is for all to see.
Too divisive as they can't even agree on atheism, and that's the lesser of all religious entities as in it denies it. But it is very much founded against the existence of religion.
Religion has no part of this game, even if it's the rejection of such things.
This thread will probably tell many players why religion isn't incorporated into the game.
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I would point out that Yahweh and Allah are literally different names for the same deity.
Other than that I would say the opposite is true for most of that. Many Atheists believe that gods do not exist, which in itself is claiming as true something which can't be proven. Merely not believing that they do exist would be the neutral ground.
The belief that gods do not exist does directly challenge any personal belief that they do exist.
Assuming that all religions do this is a common misconception. Not all religions claim their god or gods to be the only true gods. A monotheistic religion like Christianity does traditionally claim their god to be the only true god, however Polytheist religions have often either considered each other's gods to be different manifestations of the same gods, or in some cases, believed that there were many sets of gods, with each pantheon being set over their respective peoples.
In my own faith we are taught not only to respect others beliefs, but to respect others gods as we do our own. Obviously, we can' respect others gods if we believe they don't exist.
No is the short answer.could i assume that more than believing in them you suspend your disbelief vs them, probably for a greater effect (your happiness) or greater goal (a happier society)? that's not actual belief. those are tools (*1), not gods. you have faith in the human being, not in any gods.(disregard the question if inappropriate).
I won't clog up this thread by trying to explain my own beliefs in any detail but if you are curious I don't mind going into more detail in PM. I've tried to write a "short version", but I just can't find a way to explain satisfactorily even a brief version.
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Atheism is the rejection of god.
You can't take one person's 'cult' and paint anti-theism as a religion.
Based on the description you provided it seems like a top down enforcement of the ideology with little to no input from those below "politically entrenched, socially encouraged, educated into every fibre of existence" doesn't seem to leave room for choice debate or discussion.
The in game description of an Independent Dictatorship is
"An organisation that engages in Authoritarian activities in order to establish and maintain absolute control over its chosen field of interest."
In this case the chosen field of interest is the eradication of theocratic regimes
There is no claim to any possession or lack of advanced morality and social justice within that kind of dictatorship
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Take a look at the galaxy map, filter government type by Theocracy.
Religion is everywhere in this game.
Fight fire with fire?
Morality can be self determined, an atheist society can have the highest morality, and the greatest social justices.
'Control' can be self induced by promoting free thinking, empowering the individual.
I tend to see 'true' enlightenment at the individual scale. Free will is everything, everyone is their own master.
To try and envision atheism at such an encompassing level, an entire society dedicated to true enlightenment, its awe inspiring.
Remember the context, E D has a lot of planets lived on by various human societies, a lot based on Theocracy.
Neither Atheism or Antitheism are religions.
However, Atheism (or antitheism) and religion are not mutually exclusive. Similarly, theism and religion are not neccesarily co-dependant.
So while Militant Atheism is not a religion, a militant atheist religion could exist.
I think ultimate individualism and free will done really go hand in hand with "politically entrenched, socially encouraged, educated into every fibre of existence" after all it included independent thought fosters an unfettered hatred of [those who don't share the same world view]
Sounds more like "you're free to be enlightened and exercise you own free will so long as it conforms with our doctrine ofther wise you will fact unfetted hatred and be brainwashed or destroyed"
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Jim Jones already did. Deal with it.
Not in the terms of how humanity relates to religion in the now, in this game. It is not promoted in any way beyond the Theocracies...with no ties to anything relevant.
It does not suggest any religion above another, just that they are religious. So, no direct belief above another.
It's not everywhere, you made one case with theocracies, are you going to go to 2?
These systems just exist but they don't promote anything in real world terms and that's good.
If you want to introduce a highly volatile entity into this game then go do but seriously, it has no place here.
Religion in this game has no place beyond made up ones since it's set way in the future. And if they are made up, they shouldn't offend any existing religions, just be a parody of humanity.
Like the worship of Celebrities or something.
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Not sure why you are referring to, the whole of the human bubble is volatile. PP anyone.
How about the denial of the made up ones?
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Well, there certainly are some uniquely misinformed ideas as to what atheism and theocracy are. Luckily they have been straightened out.
As to the OP, why militant? What is your goal? Are you going to set out and kill all the theists? Because this manor of dealing with the faithful has major problems. For starters, you are hopelessly out numbered, sad to say. Next if you start running around waxing the believers for believing, you only create martyrs. Finally, why bother, the indoctrinated sheep-ole are already good enough at taking each other out.
I would consider something along the line of Isaac Asimov's Foundation. Beat the theists at their own game with science, knowledge, critical thinking, technology, and forethought. All things they are allergic too!
In some ways, you're part of the way there. Any theist government, group, or community that has space travel, is already taken a step toward technology being a required belief.
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As to the OP, why militant? What is your goal? Are you going to set out and kill all the theists? Because this manor of dealing with the faithful has major problems. For starters, you are hopelessly out numbered, sad to say. Next if you start running around waxing the believers for believing, you only create martyrs. Finally, why bother, the indoctrinated sheep-ole are already good enough at taking each other out.
I would consider something along the line of Isaac Asimov's Foundation. Beat the theists at their own game with science, knowledge, critical thinking, technology, and forethought. All things they are allergic too!
In some ways, you're part of the way there. Any theist government, group, or community that has space travel, is already taken a step toward technology being a required belief.
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You don't understand my point of view, its ok, its not an easy one.
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Militant simply due to the large number of Theocracies in the galaxy. It is an ideological clash, one true version of reality.
I see a militant atheist world as the 'home world' of atheism, or anti-theism. The only light in the sky.
Yes, with the level of science and technology, other more advanced alien races, you'd think they'd be at least one world that encompassed 'enlightenment'.
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LLaP. Off to sleep now.
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