UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

[EAGLE 5]

I agee. I would go as far as saying that large barnacles will never be found in blue POI.

This is based on the 'one object, one mechanic' idea. The division is between fixed location and none fixed location. Not between hand placed and RNG.


That sayed. I still think there are barnacly things to be found in both blue POI and as materials. Large barnacles can't emerge full size from the void. I firmly belive that UAs spread barnacles as an egg capsule or similar.
We should be able to find those eggs eventually, perhaps even babycles.

I mentioned this before, but more than likely we will see something along the lines of. ..

Random POI (scanner discoverable and RNG) = 1 canister out of 9,999,999 is meta-alloys being guarded by a pretty stout defensive installation
Fixed POI (visual only and FD placed) = barnacle growth area with potential meta-alloy ore and or barnacle material collectable.

The Fixed POI could potentially be manually placed, however, I'm not discounting the possibility that there is an algorhythm that generates one such location based on a very precise and distinct set of parameters that are very rare and thus aren't sprinkled everywhere like the random POIs. With the except of a very precise story item that requires FD to manually input a spawn location, I doubt they would go through the trouble to do that in a large scale ( meaning more than a couple of times ) so my theory is that a certain mix of variables about the location will give you the barnacle spawn even if extremely rare.

 

[Julio Montega]

There aren't any nebulae in the bubble.

... but "Barnard's Loop" isn't far off.
And someone said there is a "trail of F-Type stars to the loop".

Rethinking it, the word "far" is pretty much subjective,
when you've been out exploring a couple thousand lightyears are close...

 

[Futuristic Kung Fu]

... but "Barnard's Loop" isn't far off.
And someone said there is a "trail of F-Type stars to the loop".

Yeah. There's also this other one that nobody talks about. It's called the Pleiades.

 

[John Stoutbeard]

Has anybody seen such a pattern before? Not sure if it's a graphical artefact, although this would be my first with 1000+ hours of playtime.
If you land on it, it's quite greenish. Oh, btw: Pleiades Sector GW-W C1-15, Planet #5, 1.02 G.
Would be grateful if anybody could confirm.
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I've had a similar (not going to say identical) graphical glitch, it was a seam between two patches of ground.
You can see each patch start increasing it's drawing detail as you get close, while a further away one uses lower resolution.
However, I've never seen it 'stick and stay permanent' as yours.

 

[EAGLE 5]

Yes, I think we can thank our stars for that.



New form of mutant-thargoid life created by the Virus humanity infected the thargoid ships with in the past? So sentient, organic-technology?

Nah more like flooded covenant in Halo... Our virus (technically a bacteria) for all intent and purposes just broke down their drive systems and maybe (again going with a Mass Effect parallel) slowed down their reproduction like the Krogan Geno-Phage that has since been cured.... I'm thinking the barnacles lifeforms attack and take over Thargoid tech and organic material and go from there... plus if they infect their nervous system and control through there they can virtually take over entire hives if they are connected with minimal effort essentially throwing hordes of zombie/thargoids at us because well we can't be easily taken over due to our structure.

Still scary.

 

[Shockbot]

Someone mentioned earlier yesterday the UAs are pointing to Merope, because there is a Wormhole. I like the Theory! I think Merope will be the Place were the "Aliens" jump in to our Galaxy and the UAs are marking this position. Merope is a long way for new players so when they come In-Game, (some aliens) Merope would be far enough only reachable for the players who has some money to get good fittings and wanna fight against the Aliens.

Was there a statement from FD that ED will get Womholes or something equal?

 

[CMDR Corlas]

The Fixed POI could potentially be manually placed, however, I'm not discounting the possibility that there is an algorhythm that generates one such location based on a very precise and distinct set of parameters that are very rare and thus aren't sprinkled everywhere like the random POIs. With the except of a very precise story item that requires FD to manually input a spawn location, I doubt they would go through the trouble to do that in a large scale ( meaning more than a couple of times ) so my theory is that a certain mix of variables about the location will give you the barnacle spawn even if extremely rare.

Given that the planets themselves are generated based on very precise and distinct set of parameters, it seems like it would be pretty trivial to add in one extra rule to also (rarely) add a static barnacle, I'd say it's almost guaranteed that that's how it's done, aside from the manually placed ones.

 

[CMDR Runcible Shaw]

I think some time and effort should also be put into the general location of the barnacles. WHY are they only found in nebulae? What specific conditions exist in nebulae that might give us further clues to their location within those nebulae?

The term nebula is (forgive me) pretty nebulous. It has been used to describe everything from molecular clouds to entire galaxies. Basically nebula have a slightly higher density than the surrounding space and so contain more particles per cubic meter than non-nebula space. Their visibility is because of this and their ability to emit or absorb light. The wikipedia page on nebulae gives a pretty good overview. So, if what MB says is true (i.e. nebula are a logical place to find barnacles) I'd assume, as others have, that they require higher particle density to sustain themselves, possibly through the equivalent of filter feeding. And, given MB's comments about how we'll know when we find one I'm imagining something on a massive scale stuck on a planet somewhere with tentacles sticking say out into space.

 

[Futuristic Kung Fu]

You realize that at this rate we'll need a new thread every week...

 

[simulacrae]

I agee. I would go as far as saying that large barnacles will never be found in blue POI.

This is based on the 'one object, one mechanic' idea. The division is between fixed location and none fixed location. Not between hand placed and RNG.


That sayed. I still think there are barnacly things to be found in both blue POI and as materials. Large barnacles can't emerge full size from the void. I firmly belive that UAs spread barnacles as an egg capsule or similar.
We should be able to find those eggs eventually, perhaps even babycles.

I agree - mainly because of what MB said (below) The mechanism of letting us know will be distinct from the Blue/Purple POI circle. Either it will just be visually obvious or there will be a very different signal.

You are guaranteed to find them if you are in the right location.

Michael

I think you'll notice one if you're nearby.

And to those asking why nebulae - it's quite logical if you think about it

Michael

 

[slashgoh]

Found a site on Merope 3C that was not shown on radar (a fixed one?), guarded by defence turrets and sentries.
Not sure what it was, cause had to boost away (could as well be a mining site). Its in a very deep crater, that has even deeper canyons in it. Its pitch dark there.

See screen for coords, maybe someone is around to check out and whats it about?

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Edit: As I came back the site was gone the sentries were still alive which explains reports of hovering sentries without POI/site near. seems like garbage collecting isnt working properly in some cases/sites

Check done...
Nothing here.



going to Maia

 

[EAGLE 5]

The term nebula is (forgive me) pretty nebulous. It has been used to describe everything from molecular clouds to entire galaxies. Basically nebula have a slightly higher density than the surrounding space and so contain more particles per cubic meter than non-nebula space. Their visibility is because of this and their ability to emit or absorb light. The wikipedia page on nebulae gives a pretty good overview. So, if what MB says is true (i.e. nebula are a logical place to find barnacles) I'd assume, as others have, that they require higher particle density to sustain themselves, possibly through the equivalent of filter feeding. And, given MB's comments about how we'll know when we find one I'm imagining something on a massive scale stuck on a planet somewhere with tentacles sticking say out into space.

You mean like the "Special Edition" Sarlacc Pit?

 

[Tikigit]

Given that the planets themselves are generated based on very precise and distinct set of parameters, it seems like it would be pretty trivial to add in one extra rule to also (rarely) add a static barnacle, I'd say it's almost guaranteed that that's how it's done, aside from the manually placed ones.

This.

It wouldn't at all surprise me if a detailed surface scan of planets/moons with a chance to spawn them reveal certain characteristics that permit the spawning.

Heck it may even be the case that bodies that have (or could potentially spawn) 'Barnacles' state as much point blank in a more generic sense, same way some water worlds announce they support carbon based water dwelling life, or some gas giants announce they contain Ammonia based life and so forth.

It's the reason why I brought one with me to scan systems all around the nebula I'm exploring. I first scan everything out, then check the detailed planetary data.

Anything that has anything of marginal interest in the detailed data, I check the surface out.

 

[Julio Montega]

I agree - mainly because of what MB said (below) The mechanism of letting us know will be distinct from the Blue/Purple POI circle. Either it will just be visually obvious or there will be a very different signal.

The quotes of MB you posted, made me think
the barnacles consuming the nebulae,
i.e. dust particles.

If dust particles of a nebula were to be absorbed at the highest rate,
wouldn't a barnacle want a spot close to the origin of the nebula and a
habitat with the least effective shielding of electromagnetism (equatorial region)?
A high G environment would also be benificial in drawing dust particles in, correct?

 

[simulacrae]

But the fact that these barnacles can be found in other nebulae, that more than one location has been hand placed, etc. proves that the UAs are not pointing at Merope because of the barnacles. The barnacles are another clue in the big puzzle, not the end of the puzzle. There is still no logical reason to focus the barnacle search in Merope. Every landable planet in the Pleiades has just as much chance of containing the hand placed fixed POI as the planets in Merope, and Merope has already been searched the most.

good point - actually makes me want to fly out to some nebulae and check surrounding systems at around 140ly ....just to see if there are UAs

 

[LordZoltan]

There aren't any nebulae in the bubble.

yeah, okay, I'll let you have that one Can't rep you I'm afraid.

 

[CMDR Corlas]

Alien barnacles exist on atmosphereless worlds inside of nebulae so they can emerge at night and filter-feed on the floating gases and metallic particles their host planets are swimming though.

It does make sense.

 

[Jorki Rasalas]

Ok so time for a bit of out of the box thinking. The great MB has said that you are guaranteed to find them if you are in the right location. FD are presumably pretty good at Maths so they will know that even with 1000 CMDRs scouring every landable moon at POI height would take essentially forever. Secondly Kerrash mentioned that he thought that it would be visible from orbitalish height - although he may have no expert knowledge so a caveat there.

However if both these possibilities are correct then we have not been to the location yet even in orbital cruise. Given the number of people involved this seems unlikely.

theory: the dashed things are on a planet immune to the powers of the advanced discovery scanner. Trying a bit of old school parralax stuff in (most obviously) Merope might be worth a shot?

Oh, that rings a bell. Didn't DB say in an interview that some planets are hidden?

 

[yoda711]

... but "Barnard's Loop" isn't far off.
And someone said there is a "trail of F-Type stars to the loop".

That trail or linear cluster of stars is probably just real-life inaccuracy in calculating distances to stars from earth. As we know, much of the local stars around earth come from real astronomical data, and that inaccuracy made it into the game.

Kind of a long video, but Scott Manley talks about it here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIrw5lydNKc
P.S. he has some other good videos if you need to kill some time.

 

[EAGLE 5]

The quotes of MB you posted, made me think
the barnacles consuming the nebulae,
i.e. dust particles.

If dust particles of a nebula were to be absorbed at the highest rate,
wouldn't a barnacle want a spot close to the origin of the nebula and a
habitat with the least effective shielding of electromagnetism (equatorial region)?
A high G environment would also be benificial in drawing dust particles in, correct?

Sounds like you're describing Maia B... centrally located check, high gravity? black hole so check....

At first I was going to say if the black hole is the star that went supernova then I'd say well you want to catch the outer edge of the nebula because particles should be moving outward... then gravity hit me and I thought.... hmm big stars and a black hole would probably pull things back in toward themselves after the initial explosion. All this of course is speculation but yeah an interesting theory.