This has probably already been discussed at length (sorry for not checking but this thread has become a bit if a monster atm) but there are commanders camped out at Merope 5 C, and the coordinates given in the newsletter, killing visiting pilots on sight (no names but I was the boy who died and he was the boy who lived). When I went back a second time the supecruise around Merope was absolutely swarming with hollow triangles. You have been warned.
UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn
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Same happened to me too at the barnacles near the conda wreck - when I logged in I found I was landed well above the surface. Debug camera confirmed. I'm guessing game glitch for now, but not sure what the cause would be.
There were bugs like this during the Beta, although... it was always over a port. Make of that what you will.
Any chance of a timestamp?
So - best chances of finding a Barnacle is on High G rocky planets?
I can't hear any voices... Do you mean at 01:00 ?
Either way I didn't even know you could scan them like that! I just remember reading something about scanning not doing anything, but in my head that meant they weren't scannable so I didn't even try...
Direct question for Michael B
The markings of Barnacles.
a) Just an Artist impression
b) something more important
The answer might be that "The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
I ask because we can discus it about one full thread of posts
The markings of Barnacles.
a) Just an Artist impression
b) something more important
The answer might be that "The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote."
I ask because we can discus it about one full thread of posts
Well it could be as simple as an influx of cash enabling repairs, and/or people have stopped selling UAs and/or a massive increase in traffic and therefore profit due to everyone coming out to Maia.
I mean normally when stuff goes wrong people fix it, it could be just that?
Obsidian Orbital probably has a near monopoly on meta-alloys right now, they are the only station within ~170LY of the only known sources(s), that's gotta be pretty lucrative.
Meta-alloys "repairing" stations by their presence alone doesn't really make much sense to me, I mean UAs clearly damage systems we can see that by their effect on the ship, but there appears to be no equivalent repairing happening with meta-alloy or negation of the UAs damaging effect when meta-alloy are also carried.
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I think that the galnet article suggests the MAs are directly fixing the issues.
Yeah, I think that's just the scanner noises. No clear words to me.
Meta-alloys don't repair them by their presence alone. The Galnet post said the technical team conducted an experiment that improved things. So it seems they are being used in some beneficial way, but FD are being purposely vague on exactly how.
What the one ~0.57 in?
I and my wing man have had some very strange goings on in our ships, I went out to Merope 5C yesterday in my ASP I spent a good few hours hunting and dropping in on the coordinates that had been posted apart from the Connda crash site which I didn't have time to have a look at, on my 5 hour hunt I did not find any Barnacles so set off back to home base MMU Lembava. I winged up with my wing man and did a bit of res bounty hunting before writing up my log for the day.
Today I winged up with my wing man to do a bit of mining in GCRV 1568 in my Corvette and my wing man in his brand new Python, I am a very experienced miner in the trade.
First noticed something strange when mined shards would be left and could not be collected with my high power A5 collectors at very close range (250m) after a few roids my scanner was full from 2 ships worth of non collectable shards, although my wing man could not see any! (thinking this was a bug I logged out and back in with the same results) after a few more mined roids my wing man started to see what I was seeing, we made a decision to unload our cargo I had around 250t with a checked amount of 48 Platinum and 6 ton of Painite and my wing man with 4 ton of Painite before we jumped I rechecked my cargo and my Painite had disappeared, we jumped to our unload station and when I had landed my cargo had dropped to 215 ton and my pre checked cargo of Platinum had dropped to 32 ton from an original tonnage of 48 ton. My wing man also lost 2 ton of Painite.
I have no explanation to what I have just see other than my visit to Merope, I have sent my wing man out on a solo mining run to see if he has been affected, before I do another mining run. Updates to follow.
Today I winged up with my wing man to do a bit of mining in GCRV 1568 in my Corvette and my wing man in his brand new Python, I am a very experienced miner in the trade.
First noticed something strange when mined shards would be left and could not be collected with my high power A5 collectors at very close range (250m) after a few roids my scanner was full from 2 ships worth of non collectable shards, although my wing man could not see any! (thinking this was a bug I logged out and back in with the same results) after a few more mined roids my wing man started to see what I was seeing, we made a decision to unload our cargo I had around 250t with a checked amount of 48 Platinum and 6 ton of Painite and my wing man with 4 ton of Painite before we jumped I rechecked my cargo and my Painite had disappeared, we jumped to our unload station and when I had landed my cargo had dropped to 215 ton and my pre checked cargo of Platinum had dropped to 32 ton from an original tonnage of 48 ton. My wing man also lost 2 ton of Painite.
I have no explanation to what I have just see other than my visit to Merope, I have sent my wing man out on a solo mining run to see if he has been affected, before I do another mining run. Updates to follow.
Hmmmm it was just the fact that meta-alloys are said to be "alien" and as soon as they get sold at Obsidian Orbital the station starts recovering shall we say.
There has to be a connection. It makes sense for there to be.
Wasn't there word that meta-alloys being sold at other effected stations was "curing" them?
Aye crikey not seen that, it's like witchcraft. =p
So the UAs and the large barnacles share:
- Blue twinklies
- The UA style high/low purrs
- The purple/green colour "gaseous" pulsing
One thing (I think) the UA has that the barnacles do not is the weird light distortion field, the field that gives the UA and anything nearby that double image sort of effect.
Perhaps it's this field that's causing the technical malfunctions, the meta-alloy somehow supressing that.
I guess there's some tests that can be done for that, does meta-alloy somehow suppress that effect?
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There's a monster in our house, and I think we're feeding it:
So Obsidian Orbital recently started deteriorated, right? Much like the other stations we've sold UAs at. And like our ships when we have a UA too.
But giving it Meta-Alloys stopped the problems. So we've got to ask: why? What properties do the MAs have that stopped the problems. Surely we didn't use them to patch up the issues, we barely know what MA is, nevermind what the problems were, and even if we did how EXACTLY did MAs solve the issue anyway?
You know what I think? I think we simply distracted the problem by feeding it its favourite meal.
So let's work from the beginning.
The Barnacles are a growing outpost, sent by a race that's from LMC. They put their galactic symbol on it like we put our Solar system on our probes, only they sent these things to an entire other galaxy, not just to a local system, so what would be the point of putting their home-star on there, we wouldn't be able to cross reference and identify it. So they put the next best thing. Their galaxy.
These things are designed to draw out metals from the planets they're on and convert them into Meta Alloys, the chosen building blocks for the alien race we see. At the same time, they dispatch the Unknown Artefacts to disperse from the primary barnacle location to begin drawing out a border; the outer edge of a bubble territory they are planning to use and exploit when the outposts are finished growing. They don't fully expect to find sentient life, but the UAs are designed to report back any information that they find on their travels just in case, such as the local language used (mistakenly learned as morse from the loudest most predictable signals in the system: the nav beacons), the names the locals have given to the systems if there is one (which would also serve the purpose of showing the newcomers about any potential opposing territories and its subsequent size), and if necessary, the specs of the local life and their vehicles (the recent morse pictures of our ships (note this is likely only in morse so WE could see it as players, in game its likely to be sent back in the language of the newcomers, but how would we then see what they were doing?)).
These UAs are also spreading more barnacles to lay down a solid foundation for the newcomers so when they come out of witch space or whatever space they are using to haul ass from one galaxy to another, there is already home comforts and a firm foothold for them to begin their expansion across the milky way. After all, why would they move from one galaxy to another if it wasn't for more resources? Have they consumed all of theirs already and are now after a nice ripe Milky Way?
So the Barnacles launch the UAs from Merope mainly. The ones we find have been interrupted mid-travel, so when we find them they point themselves AWAY, not towards, where they've come from. And when they 'expire', that FSD like jump is them re-entering their travel? Maybe, either way, the important thing is we sell them to stations, and they now have exactly what they were looking for: high metal content! Well, not quite a planetary version, but metals galore none-the-less. So they begin entering their Barnacle stage of life, consuming metal and converting it into Meta-Alloys.
Eating a station is going to do bad stuff to it, right? So we see the problems arising. The stations are being consumed. We know Meta-Alloys 'cure' the problem, but how? Do we just 'patch up' holes with it? The station wasn't made of MA in the first place, how exactly is that going to help?
Well, what if it's not fixing the problem as much as it is now feeding the UA/Station Barnacles with the MA it needs to begin the next stage of its life: reproduction into more UAs. At that point, it's going to use the MA as food, not the station, which essentially makes the problem SEEM fixed.
But it's not fixed. There's still the problem of the UA/Barnacle growing within our stations. Within our bubble.
I think they're coming guys, and we're helping build their bases by giving them ours.
TL;DR? There's a monster eating the walls of our house, so we've fed it something else that it likes. That stops the monster from eating our house, but it doesn't stop the monster growing.
So Obsidian Orbital recently started deteriorated, right? Much like the other stations we've sold UAs at. And like our ships when we have a UA too.
But giving it Meta-Alloys stopped the problems. So we've got to ask: why? What properties do the MAs have that stopped the problems. Surely we didn't use them to patch up the issues, we barely know what MA is, nevermind what the problems were, and even if we did how EXACTLY did MAs solve the issue anyway?
You know what I think? I think we simply distracted the problem by feeding it its favourite meal.
So let's work from the beginning.
The Barnacles are a growing outpost, sent by a race that's from LMC. They put their galactic symbol on it like we put our Solar system on our probes, only they sent these things to an entire other galaxy, not just to a local system, so what would be the point of putting their home-star on there, we wouldn't be able to cross reference and identify it. So they put the next best thing. Their galaxy.
These things are designed to draw out metals from the planets they're on and convert them into Meta Alloys, the chosen building blocks for the alien race we see. At the same time, they dispatch the Unknown Artefacts to disperse from the primary barnacle location to begin drawing out a border; the outer edge of a bubble territory they are planning to use and exploit when the outposts are finished growing. They don't fully expect to find sentient life, but the UAs are designed to report back any information that they find on their travels just in case, such as the local language used (mistakenly learned as morse from the loudest most predictable signals in the system: the nav beacons), the names the locals have given to the systems if there is one (which would also serve the purpose of showing the newcomers about any potential opposing territories and its subsequent size), and if necessary, the specs of the local life and their vehicles (the recent morse pictures of our ships (note this is likely only in morse so WE could see it as players, in game its likely to be sent back in the language of the newcomers, but how would we then see what they were doing?)).
These UAs are also spreading more barnacles to lay down a solid foundation for the newcomers so when they come out of witch space or whatever space they are using to haul ass from one galaxy to another, there is already home comforts and a firm foothold for them to begin their expansion across the milky way. After all, why would they move from one galaxy to another if it wasn't for more resources? Have they consumed all of theirs already and are now after a nice ripe Milky Way?
So the Barnacles launch the UAs from Merope mainly. The ones we find have been interrupted mid-travel, so when we find them they point themselves AWAY, not towards, where they've come from. And when they 'expire', that FSD like jump is them re-entering their travel? Maybe, either way, the important thing is we sell them to stations, and they now have exactly what they were looking for: high metal content! Well, not quite a planetary version, but metals galore none-the-less. So they begin entering their Barnacle stage of life, consuming metal and converting it into Meta-Alloys.
Eating a station is going to do bad stuff to it, right? So we see the problems arising. The stations are being consumed. We know Meta-Alloys 'cure' the problem, but how? Do we just 'patch up' holes with it? The station wasn't made of MA in the first place, how exactly is that going to help?
Well, what if it's not fixing the problem as much as it is now feeding the UA/Station Barnacles with the MA it needs to begin the next stage of its life: reproduction into more UAs. At that point, it's going to use the MA as food, not the station, which essentially makes the problem SEEM fixed.
But it's not fixed. There's still the problem of the UA/Barnacle growing within our stations. Within our bubble.
I think they're coming guys, and we're helping build their bases by giving them ours.
TL;DR? There's a monster eating the walls of our house, so we've fed it something else that it likes. That stops the monster from eating our house, but it doesn't stop the monster growing.
Yes. Can you not hear voices ? Are they in my head ?
Yeah does having meta-alloys on your ship negate the effects of the UA's, has anyone tried this? Seems the easiest test to do at first.
I would myself if I had a UA.
For those having troubles spawning the known sites even after resetting the instance, have you tried to back off from the coordinates by a few hundred meters? I switched to solo after finding the Merope 5C site in Mobuis mined out, I was sitting near the main spire in my SRV when I switched instances and saw nothing when I logged back on in solo. After I re-boarded my ship I reloaded solo again from the main menu which seemed fix it for me. I haven't had any issues since if I make sure I'm not on top of the spire garden when I reset the instance.
No, the UA eats your ship regardless.
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