UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

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Has anyone tried to drop an UA near a barnacle? Since it seems that UA's and barnacles are linked in some way, there is a chance that they interact when we bring them together. I am currently carrying an UA, and am going to try to bring it to a barnacle site...
 
I really don't think these things are thargoids, I think they are an entirely separate race and may well end up being far more dangerous in the end. Perhaps we will end up begging the Thargoids for help in dealing with them, and end up with alien allies and alien enemies?

Indeed! To me these barnacles/spikes e.t.c represent technology from ED's very own implementation of Species 8472.

Of course, I am also prepared for the ultimate disappointment, as is customary in these parts.
 
Has anyone tried to drop an UA near a barnacle? Since it seems that UA's and barnacles are linked in some way, there is a chance that they interact when we bring them together. I am currently carrying an UA, and am going to try to bring it to a barnacle site...

Yeah there's even a pic earlier in the thread :) Nothing happened sadly.

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Indeed! To me these barnacles/spikes e.t.c represent technology from ED's very own implementation of Species 8472.

Of course, I am also prepared for the ultimate disappointment, as is customary in these parts.

I ain't flying MY ship in any alternate universe fluidic goo thank you very much.
 
But why should they have a picture of the LMC on them when they are from there?
How is that related to the Pleiades?

Perhaps for the same reason we shoved a map of our location on Voyager? The barnacles have the look to me of something that's still forming - perhaps the image isn't finshed yet?

The image might not have to be related to the Pleiades, perhaps the Pleiades is merely where they've been found? Right now, my mind is so open to every possibity that my brain is in danger of falling out. :p

At least all this specualtion and theory is helping to keep me sane, stuck out here in the black! :)
 
Some logic here.

If you consider this from a gameplay mechanic point of view.
First off, the barnacles drop everything that a ship needs to survive for an extended amount of time away from populated space.

Secondly, we have this dispersal thing going on (quite probably) involving the UAs. I'm willing to bet that the UAs are indicators that a nebula contains barnacles, as a UA is much easier to find. Simply hang around (hopefully) 150 LY from a nebulas central star and wait to see if it spawns.

Thirdly, at least one nearby nebula (to the plaiedes) must contain barnacles as they would have had to set up shop there beforehand. (According to the dispersal theory) we find that, rinse and repeat until we trace them back to their origin.

Makes sense to me...time to come back from BL!

Just thinking a little more about this.

Connecting the Nebula. Sometimes the distances are great between them. Say for example we have a 150 LY shell around Merope. This is not enough to provide propagation for a nebula dwelling Species with their mechanics.
150 LY is nowhere near enough to reach another nebula even if the shells overlap.
Even if shells did overlap, it does not explain why or how, in this case Merope is the central point in the centre of the nebula. With propagation by UA shells, the central point would have been up to 150 LY distant from the nebula centre.

So I posit this: That we are missing a big piece of the puzzle - in essence, the Large Barnacle. What we have all seen so far, are Small Barnacles. A large Barnacle is capable of say, a 1000 LY or so jump, and arrives in the centre of a nebula. It then seeds the target system with Small barnacles, which then propagate by manufacturing and "Shooting" UA's to the next suitable system. Up to a radius of 150 LY.

The purpose of the large barnacle remains a mystery. I am simply analysing possible mechanics here. So far, I can see no need for the Large Barnacle to remain static, as obviously it is self propulsive. Why it needs to seed Nebula is beyond me too, but the mechanic seems to be in place. Still though, looking for UA Shell seems to be the way forward to identify Nebula with Barnacles.
 

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Everytime I hear about people's plans to fix the damage caused by UA delivery, this is all I can think

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So I posit this: That we are missing a big piece of the puzzle - in essence, the Large Barnacle. What we have all seen so far, are Small Barnacles. A large Barnacle is capable of say, a 1000 LY or so jump, and arrives in the centre of a nebula. It then seeds the target system with Small barnacles, which then propagate by manufacturing and "Shooting" UA's to the next suitable system. Up to a radius of 150 LY.

The purpose of the large barnacle remains a mystery. I am simply analysing possible mechanics here. So far, I can see no need for the Large Barnacle to remain static, as obviously it is self propulsive. Why it needs to seed Nebula is beyond me too, but the mechanic seems to be in place. Still though, looking for UA Shell seems to be the way forward to identify Nebula with Barnacles.

I think it's pretty obvious what we are seeing are the large barnacles. Clearly you're actually positing the existence of a huge barnacle. Although it's not obvious whether we should technically term them class 3 and class 4...
 
Are both of you aware that Meta-Alloys already officially cured Obsidian Orbital, aren't you?
Check the Front page or Galnet ;)

While I'm completely unsurprised, I'm sure you're already aware of my stance on player agency in this ;)

Although with the amount of attention MB has been giving this thread, it might be worth asking directly:
Why *hasn't* Walker Survey in Kagtsuchi been affected by the 250+ UA's sold there? (now tipping 300 easily since my mates started selling them there too)
 
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I really don't think these things are thargoids, I think they are an entirely separate race and may well end up being far more dangerous in the end. Perhaps we will end up begging the Thargoids for help in dealing with them, and end up with alien allies and alien enemies?

Mmm, I like Dastardly's observation that the barnacle symbol could represent the Pleiades as seen from Earth. That supports the hypothesis for a Generation ship (or two, if the UAs & barnacles are related but separate organic technologies) developing their own branch of technology (either independently, in conjunction with Oresrians, or as part of the GalCorp/INRA plot lore). So we could be facing an offshoot of humanity ...... or not!
 
While I'm completely unsurprised, I'm sure you're already aware of my stance on player agency in this ;)

The answer to why your station didn't go down becomes more obvious now, with no commodities market it couldn't be fixed by meta alloys and so didn't go down. yeah it sucks but players do have a certain level of agency, it's just impossible to make a game where everything any player does changes things, because you'd never be able to implement the necessary story changes and code in order to make it work.
 
Since there seems to be some question about barnacles spawning in Solo, I found the Merope 5C one at pretty much the exact coordinates from the initial screenshot. Had to be accurate to at least 1 or 2 decimal places, but I could see it and/or spires up to 8km or more altitude, once it had spawned anyway. Whole reason I had gone there was to know what I should be looking for elsewhere.

Pretty cool from the Oculus, but I think the UAs are still cooler looking :p
I am interested in going VR this year, but I'm a spectacle wearer with astigmatism & have varifocal lenses. Do you have an opinion on use of Oculus with specs?
 
The answer to why your station didn't go down becomes more obvious now, with no commodities market it couldn't be fixed by meta alloys and so didn't go down. yeah it sucks but players do have a certain level of agency, it's just impossible to make a game where everything any player does changes things, because you'd never be able to implement the necessary story changes and code in order to make it work.
Yup. One big popularity contest.

What a waste....

Out of interest, how do we fix the stations with no commodity market available at the moment ;)
 
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I sold my 4 Meta-Alloys at the main station in Wolf 1301 - it is an agricultural economy but it had High Demand for Mata-Alloys (sold for +90k/t).

The station was reportedly hit by the tech plague, according to GalNet.
What Galnet post date was that in? because I gave Riz the list from 4thJan for the front page summary & it wasn't mentioned then.
 
I think it's pretty obvious what we are seeing are the large barnacles. Clearly you're actually positing the existence of a huge barnacle. Although it's not obvious whether we should technically term them class 3 and class 4...

Why is it obvious?

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Why is it obvious?

Anyone seen a smaller Barnacle?
 
Oh yeah, I've thought of something like that in the past as well, I'd definitely enjoy seeing something involving a race other than Thargoids. It could also tie in with the Elite: Reclamation novel, which was one of the Frontier "approved canon" novels, and at some point it described something that an old explorer saw that one of the major factions (I can't remember if it was the Feds or Empire, maybe both) wiped from their memory, but that they remember was somehow "far worse than the Thargoids were".

There's also the possibility of an arc involving the rogue AIs that escaped destruction from humanity that could be building up strength as we speak.

AIs should be no problem- we just surround them with UAs! :rolleyes:
 
On origins in the nebula: the Pleiades Nebula was formed somewhere else and happens to be travelling through the same space as the stars of the Pleiades itself.

How about a catastrophic war between *two* species that resulted in the obliteration of a system, or some planets within a system? One or both species leaves seeds behind in the remnants, waiting for the time when the nebula encounters bodies on which they can take root.

Taking this on (and putting on a few more layers of tinfoil) It's possible, then, that the UAs and the Barnacles are actually opposing species. The UAs sigle out Merope and the surrounding area to us, to get us to go and exterminate the Barnacles by harvesting them; and the Meta-Alloys they produce prevent the UA damage (after being 'machined') because, actually, it's a defence mechanism, or shielding, against the effects of the technology used by those that made the UAs.

Ifany of this is true, we could be about to get caught up in the middle of a very nasty conflict where humanity might be forced to choose a side, neither of which are particularly palatable.
 
What I'd like to see ideally, is have peace "officially", but still in some way have combat interactions. Maybe like having multiple Thargoid factions. Who knows, maybe we'll see the Oresrians, which were supposedly a more peaceful branch/species of Thargoids.

Give me ten minutes with those "Oresrians" and I'll put them right. An anaconda in the exhaust requires laser surgery to correct.....They will never be the same again.
 
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