UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

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ok, my 2 pennyworth - when i listen to barnacles and ua's i hear 2 sets of parallel morse, one of deep growls, the other of high pitched beeps, also i was wondering about the gold and tea found round this area constantly, Atomic Number: 79, Atomic Mass: 196.96655. now has anyone tried checking this location for barnacles? Tea - maybe the source of nitrogen for these things?
 
BIG NEWS !!!!!

BARNACLES ARE DISAPEARING !!!

I log off aroudn 1 am today in front of BARNACLES at MEROPE 5 C -026.3496 - 156.4044.
I log in today morning 9:20 amBARNACLES NOWHERE!!!
I went to space and back, tried relog.
I am in solo mode.

Looks like barnacle are disappearing or they change positions ?
Shooting on them cause their disappearance ?

I will look around, try other close coordinates that i yesterday tried (no barnacles found).

Evidence from crime place. :D
 

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BIG NEWS !!!!!

BARNACLES ARE DISAPEARING !!!

I log off aroudn 1 am today in front of BARNACLES at MEROPE 5 C -026.3496 - 156.4044.
I log in today morning 9:20 amBARNACLES NOWHERE!!!
I went to space and back, tried relog.
I am in solo mode.

Looks like barnacle are disappearing or they change positions ?
Shooting on them cause their disappearance ?

I will look around, try other close coordinates that i yesterday tried (no barnacles found).

Evidence from crime place. :D

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Try open mode =)
 
Dear fellow CMDRs proving protection for explorers: If you see a combat equipped ship around a barnacle site and suspect that he is a ganker, please pay close attention to his actions. In my case, I was in a combat equipped Anaconda and had a few fellow CMDRs in ASPs around me exploring. I saw another anaconda appear incoming and it did not say a word. I took off, but I did not have weapons deployed and I did not fire first. Unfortunately the other CMDR was looking for an Anaconda who shot him down before and opened fire immediately on me without a word (not realizing it was not me). Turns out he was not a ganker, but because I was unfortunately caught off guard, I was the victim with a 25 mill rebuy. In a conda vs conda fight, he who fires first has an advantage. So the lesson to our dear CMDRs providing protection for those exploring the barnacle sites - be vigilant and on the defensive, but also don't jump to conclusions. I can absorb this rebuy, but saddened that it was due to friendly fire. I can certainly see why the Thargoids don't trust humans if we don't trust each other ;)

This is an unfortunate tale...

We mustn't allow the actions of gankers erode our trust.

Until something else is arranged, perhaps anyone reading this thread can agree on a call sign or something over local chat in open if you're not sure about the intentions of a CMDR.

Something simple like;

-> Science?
<- Science o7
(Or other suitable positive response)

A ganker that's done their homework might also respond appropriately - but when they start shooting they'll become infamous, which might not work well for them...

If they don't respond at all - then it's not a carte blanche to attack, just a sign to perhaps be vigilant.

Just a suggestion.
 
Dear fellow CMDRs proving protection for explorers: If you see a combat equipped ship around a barnacle site and suspect that he is a ganker, please pay close attention to his actions. In my case, I was in a combat equipped Anaconda and had a few fellow CMDRs in ASPs around me exploring. I saw another anaconda appear incoming and it did not say a word. I took off, but I did not have weapons deployed and I did not fire first. Unfortunately the other CMDR was looking for an Anaconda who shot him down before and opened fire immediately on me without a word (not realizing it was not me). Turns out he was not a ganker, but because I was unfortunately caught off guard, I was the victim with a 25 mill rebuy. In a conda vs conda fight, he who fires first has an advantage. So the lesson to our dear CMDRs providing protection for those exploring the barnacle sites - be vigilant and on the defensive, but also don't jump to conclusions. I can absorb this rebuy, but saddened that it was due to friendly fire. I can certainly see why the Thargoids don't trust humans if we don't trust each other ;)
shame that we have some toxic and dumb people who are so sadistic to actually think it's fun shooting people's ships and leave them on their srvs , this is not fun its sadismus , it's trolling .
I hoped to never see toxicity in this game but these fools proved me wrong , as I said before they must be destroyed , or be dealt with by frontier :(
massive thanks to the warriors who protect the scientists of the canonn
 
It is. I used it to atrteficially reduce the connection quality.

The point is that the transaction server seem a bit sensitive. Having peers in the same instance seem to help a lot. That is why open/populated group is better.

I'm hopelessly behind on the thread (again) and unable to test until my new hardware comes later today anyway (hard to justify £300+ in upgrades, plus the cost of Horizons, just to play a single game, but I finally bit the bullet), but this makes perfect sense:

When you are in open or a group with other people in the instance, the matchmaking server does two things that help:

- It matches YOU with the best instance "owner".
- It sets the instance owner to the best possible candidate (sticky, only updates when "owner" leaves instance).

Depending on how FDev have done the networking code, there are two possible options for why this helps with the Barnacles. Either you now get the list of objects in the instance from the instance owner or there is a built-in check to make sure everyone in the instance has the same object list.

It would be enormously helpful to know if the people experiencing problems getting the barnacles to show in solo have a dodgy connection to the transaction server. Without snooping on my ethernet traffic, I don't know if FDev use a static server for these things or if it's a random Amazon EC2 instance. Anyone know?
 
Tried open mode barnacles still missing

Anyone can go confirm or whatewer ..

Nothing new, it's a well known bug:
Exit to desktop. Wait 8 minutes. Restart game in open and pray.

Some of them are random spawn, btw, but until this bug is fixed we cannot know which ones.
 
Now I apologize if this has already been mentioned in the thread, but I am having trouble keeping up with it all. I have seen though, that Barnard's Loop keeps being discounted for some reason.

This screenshot of Barnard's Loop was taken from near the Witch Head Nebula, so I'm not sure if the alignment will be more accurate from Merope (it's obviously in a slightly different position in the screenshot though due to my location, but not significantly so).

http://i.imgur.com/f3rCA8r.jpg




Is there any reason the marking on the Barnacle would not represent Barnard's Loop as seen from the point of view of the Barnacle itself?

Sure, it isn't perfect - but 1) this is the most obvious thing we have in the game, and 2) Michael Brookes as essentially told us to look within a nebula.

What am I missing here? Seems to me we are being pointed towards Barnard's Loop...

Personally I think overlaying the logo and the image makes it look like a better match than it really is. It's very easy to just sort of ignore the bits that don't fit. I think the right way to do this is to take the image of barnard's loop and produce a new logo of the same sort of complexity as the logo from the barnacles but without considering the barnacle logo at all. Basically generate your own stylised barnard's loop. I believe doing it that way will make it fairly obvious that they don't match that well (though it won't convince everyone as some people seem content to link the barnacle logo to anything vaguely circular).
 
I am checking the Nebula on the DWE. So far checked:
Lagoon
Trifid
Omega
a Planetary Nebula that I dont have the name of to hand.

Good work dude. Put my Hauler into obsidian orbital about 2 hours ago. after a night ,morning and over 7000lys. going for coffee will be heading out to merope soon to stop people messing with the research teams there.

keep up the good work guys

science!
 
I think they don't always spawn. Try going to SC and back in. I had it at the weekend at the same site.

tried relog solo/open mode went to space and back. when i was logging out barnacles was in front of me, when i log in barnac was missing
i think they should be permanent
 
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I'm hopelessly behind on the thread (again) and unable to test until my new hardware comes later today anyway (hard to justify £300+ in upgrades, plus the cost of Horizons, just to play a single game, but I finally bit the bullet), but this makes perfect sense:

When you are in open or a group with other people in the instance, the matchmaking server does two things that help:

- It matches YOU with the best instance "owner".
- It sets the instance owner to the best possible candidate (sticky, only updates when "owner" leaves instance).

Depending on how FDev have done the networking code, there are two possible options for why this helps with the Barnacles. Either you now get the list of objects in the instance from the instance owner or there is a built-in check to make sure everyone in the instance has the same object list.

It would be enormously helpful to know if the people experiencing problems getting the barnacles to show in solo have a dodgy connection to the transaction server. Without snooping on my ethernet traffic, I don't know if FDev use a static server for these things or if it's a random Amazon EC2 instance. Anyone know?

This makes sense. I have a 300 Mbps fiber-optic connection. I guess that explains why I always see the barnacles when I play Solo, while others don't.
 
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