UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

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If the UA and the meta-alloys are made by the same species, which would seem to be the case, it doesn't make much sense to me that the meta-alloys are a trojan horse. What would be the master plan?
  1. We put UAs in space, which are difficult to find, until you run into the correct area of space.
  2. We wait for ships to carry them to stations, they cause harm to stations.
  3. We wait for explorers to find INCREDIBLY hard to find barnacles, which when shot produce meta-alloys. We wait for ships to carry those to the stations.
  4. The meta-alloys "seem" to fix the problems with the stations, but really they are a trojan horse! (queue alien version of "MUHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!")
That seems pretty contrived. If they wanted us to bring some trojan horse to the station, why not design the UAs to be said trojan horse, and save all the extra steps?

It's alien technology we don't know it's potential. I think it's entirely plausible they could be a Trojan Horse or something else.

Just because there's no visible problems now doesn't mean there won't be any further down the line.

Maybe I shouldn't have used the phrase "Trojan Horse," as that implies some sort of master plan and that was only one possibility to my point.

My over arching point was that I think we should be cautious is all :)
 
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Whether there is more in game than the barnacles at this time, there is a chance that there is, but at the same time there is a chance that there isn't. The developers cannot give too many hints as to what there is or isn't. The way I look at it, the mystery behind the UAs and the Barnacles is what makes the search and investigation exciting, not knowing exactly what they are or what they do.

In a way, this "mystery" is what separates the true explorers from the ones that are not that serious about exploring. If FD reveals that something is indeed there (as in the barnacles, it was said they were in game and even how to possibly find them) everyone will scour the game to find them, knowing there is something to be found. The barnacles were found within a month of Horizons release, simply because we knew where to look and knew they were somewhere.

If, on the other hand, it's kept a mystery, the true explorers among us will keep looking, because that's what we do, find that which no one has found before. It adds to the excitement of exploration, looking for the unknown.

I think of this like the explorers of old. They would set to sea and often spend days, weeks, or even months before they found anything worthwhile. But, I can only imagine how they must have felt when they saw a new land, a new island, a new place that was previously unknown and uncharted. I am sure there were a lot of explorers back then that set to sea, and I am sure there were many that gave up as time went by. Only those who persevered were rewarded with the find and experience of their lifetime.
In a way, I consider Elite Dangerous exploration to be similar. We are the Cristobal Colon, the Christopher Columbus of our Galaxy. We are the intrepid explorers that put up with tedious, long days of finding the same similar things over an over. We are the ones that leave our homes to return days, weeks, or even months later.

And those of us who persevere, will be the ones to see, discover, and experience the things firsthand before anyone else does.

Even if there is no more in game than the barnacles right now, since we don't know, when FD eventually adds more and we find it, we won't know any better. The only thing we'll know is that all our time looking "paid off".

At least in this instance, ignorance is indeed bliss. Knowing where something is takes away from the excitement of finding it.

Currently, I am in Skaudai sector scouring the nebula here. Once I get tired of scanning systems in this nebula, I plan to more on to another nebula, then another. I have been exploring the nebulas before I even knew about the barnacles, so now I want to see if I can find any on any other nebula.

All I can say to my fellow explorers is, set out into the black, and let's solve this big mystery together!
 
Anyone think that there may be barnacles outside the Pleiades? Michael said "especially" the Pleiades nebula, he didn't say they were exclusive to it. May also be barnacles outside nebulae - he just said they were good places to look, rather than being exclusive to them.
 
I think that the tuba honks can not be morse code. Morse code without pauses is basically useless, I just found a site that can take in morse code without spaces and will give you every possible combination that it might be. It gave me several hundred possible outcomes, none of them made any sense. I even had it search for possible english words, it found many, but nothing fit together to make sentences. Also, we know the UA used morse code, but it wasn't through tuba honks, it was clicks (I think). So why would the barnacles be using a different version of morse code, and one without spaces so that it's basically indecipherable?

Here's the site I used

http://www.dcode.fr/morse-code

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yes, I have also come to this conclusion

when starting to decode it reminds me immediately to the 216-digit number in the movie Pi... It's the syntax.
Thanks to you and to Locastan for the nice dcode.fr/morse-code link.

it's not just 0s and 1s. It's more like notes. If they are not repeating the sent message it's an endless search.

i stop here for now. thanks to science i'm going to invest my energy in overlaying the top view of the barnacle with the symbol. lets see what i can find there.
while doing this i listen to the sound of barnacles.
 
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Anyone think that there may be barnacles outside the Pleiades? Michael said "especially" the Pleiades nebula, he didn't say they were exclusive to it. May also be barnacles outside nebulae - he just said they were good places to look, rather than being exclusive to them.

Anything is possible, but one true fact is that there are a lot of nebulae in the galaxy.
 
Are you guys serious?

There's a new Alien race called the Sneizure out there. They are an underwater race who originally come from a planet in a close-by nebula. They use their technology to mine worlds and create the Metal Alloy that their ships are built from. This metal alloy is resistant to their Hyperdrive and Fishnet technology, which they use to travel and communicate with. Fishnet is their equivalent to our Galnet, but requires relay stations. The jumps between relay stations are called legs, and so you find fishnet covered legs throughout the galaxy.

The logo you are seeing is nothing to do with any nebula, but is the mark of their god-like deity. It is, in fact, the image of a handkerchief in the process of coming down to wipe you off the planet. Being under water is safety for them, since most handkerchiefs disintegrate in water. (No-one uses non-recycleable cotton handkerchiefs any more in the 34th century.)

They are quite upset with the amount of Fishnet devices that are being lost in this sector (never mind the damage to their mining facilities and loss of productivity) and will soon turn up with a bill for the replacements. Failure to pay will result in what is known (and only whispered about in these forums) as "The Wipe." They are quite aware that "The Wipe" is a feared event that occurred once or twice before the start of 3301 and is the one thing every Commander fears.

And this is as good a theory as any I have read in the past couple of pages. Apologies to Douglas Adams for the shameless rip off.
 
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Anyone think that there may be barnacles outside the Pleiades? Michael said "especially" the Pleiades nebula, he didn't say they were exclusive to it. May also be barnacles outside nebulae - he just said they were good places to look, rather than being exclusive to them.
Yes, if you look through this thread you'll find evidence of loads of Cmdrs that have gone to other nebulae to look for more barnacles.
 
Underwater race? And you think they have developed high-voltage technology? :D

Yes, I know. It was shocking stuff when it first came out. Then they discovered that Barnacles could hold quite large charges without it disseminating into the water around it. It was nice not to see yet another assistant turned in to French toast, only for them to get quite soggy straight away.

No-one likes soggy toast!
 
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Are you guys serious?

There's a new Alien race called the Sneizure out there. They are an underwater race who originally come from a planet in a close-by nebula. They use their technology to mine worlds and create the Metal Alloy that their ships are built from. This metal alloy is resistant to their Hyperdrive and Fishnet technology, which they use to travel and communicate with. Fishnet is their equivalent to our Galnet, but requires relay stations. The jumps between relay stations are called legs, and so you find fishnet covered legs throughout the galaxy.

The logo you are seeing is nothing to do with any nebula, but is the mark of their god-like deity. It is, in fact, the image of a handkerchief in the process of coming down to wipe you off the planet. Being under water is safety for them, since most handkerchiefs disintegrate in water. (No-one uses non-recycleable cotton handkerchiefs any more in the 34th century.)

They are quite upset with the amount of Fishnet devices that are being lost in this sector (never mind the damage to their mining facilities and loss of productivity) and will soon turn up with a bill for the replacements. Failure to pay will result in what is known (and only whispered about in these forums) as "The Wipe." They are quite aware that "The Wipe" is a feared event that occurred once or twice before the start of 3301 and is the one thing every Commander fears.

And this is as good a theory as any I have read in the past couple of pages. Apologies to Douglas Adams for the shameless rip off.

lol fishnet :)
 
Hi Cmdrs
i've been trying to play around in the Galaxy map to explore the various ideas on alignment of Barnards Loop & various nebulae, etc, but the inability to set waypoints, draw a truly straight line etc is annoying me. Wish FD would provide it with proper route planning & saving capability! I thought there might be a third party tool to help, however I've Googled and also checked ED Codex & not found anything to suit. Does anyone have any alternative recommendations?

Not sure on any other way to do it than just looking in the map. I know the nebula looks different in the game than it does in the map. I would really like to see exactly what pleiades looks like from this angle in particular:

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No idea if it's right or totally wrong but I managed to find a word in one of the morse codes provided:

....-.--.-.-.-.-.-..-.- ( . -- .--. .. .-. . ) ----..-.-.---

equals to:

? ( EMPIRE ) ?

This morse thing is really a pain in my onionheads.

That is really cool, but unfortunately not significant. I found many single words in a string of code I recorded earlier today. That exact same line of morse you have there also contains the words enter, estate, marked, market, state, and taken, but don't make up any kind of sentence. The problem with morse is that it really needs spaces to be readable, without them, there are just too many different words it could be. for example an E in morse is a single . and a T is a single - so the line of morse you have there could be read as EEEETETTETETETE... and so on. I think it's been decided that the code can't be morse, sorry. But good work, keep it up, science isn't only about getting the right answer! :)
 
Along the lines of the "habitable zone" or "goldilocks zone" that was mentioned earlier... I think there's definitely some data to be mined here.

So far, the barnacles seem to like surface temperatures between 194 and 379 K. That's pretty mild in the galactic sense. If you believe this, then to find candidate planets more quickly, you don't necessarily need to travel to each planet and scan it with a DSS. You only need to scan the star (or maybe just look it's type) and then figure out if there are any non-ice, landable planets within the habitable zone. Where is this habitable zone you ask? That's the hard part, but I've taken a stab at it.

Looking at the existing 4 data points (4 planets where barnacles have been found), there is definitely a relationship between star temperature, distance, and surface temperature. With only 4 data points, (3 really, since two of them are a binary pair) it's difficult to have high confidence, but a trend does emerge.

I picked a POWER fit curve. Why? Because a quick look at the star temperature and distance shows it's clearly not a linear relationship. In my mind, that leaves power, exponential, polynomial, and logarithmic. Logarithmic is not right, since it results in a curve that "curves the wrong way," if you will. I don't think it's exponential either, since the curve shoots up asymptotically before you even get to an O type star. That leaves power and polynomial. With so few data points, polynomial doesn't make any sense (it curves back down). So for now, that leaves us with a Power fit. It may end up being a polynomial with more data, but for now, this is what we have.

So I present this graph, with the caveat that as you get further to the upper right, I have less and less confidence in the data.

It would be good to add more data regarding planets that have been found within this temperature range, even if no barnacles have been found on them (yet), because it would produce a better fitting curve and make the search for barnacles more efficient. I can't at the moment since I'm not at home, but if you PM me I can add the data.


habitable zone.jpg
 
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Anyone think that there may be barnacles outside the Pleiades? Michael said "especially" the Pleiades nebula, he didn't say they were exclusive to it. May also be barnacles outside nebulae - he just said they were good places to look, rather than being exclusive to them.

I'm currently searching the N. American Nebula. No luck yet but not for a lack of trying. Not sure if there is anyone else out here with me.
 
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