Like what happened with the SS1 CG if I'm not mistaken. It went along another path.
UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn
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Like what happened with the SS1 CG if I'm not mistaken. It went along another path.
Not sure if this has been posted, but it's cool work, so... apologies if you're been following already...
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Hi Michael. Personally I want an intellectual puzzle to solve, combined with dipping in & out, as the fancy takes me, of the exploration, trading, etc that is the heart of the game. I think others are of the the same opinion but some are getting jaded by all the searching with, as far as they perceive, little clues - it is a very big universe for a blind search and there are a lot of wild speculative theories with (often) no way to test them. The spawning difficulties that some people are experiencing on the Barnacles etc is also contributing further to their frustration in the search process, & has led some to lose faith .
I think it is essential for the immersion to keep clues within the game framework-it would be nice for Galnet to occasionally put out a report along the lines of "Look how stupid the Empire/Federation/Pilots Federation/Canonn/etc are because this has just been found and the obviously evident clue to this was ...???... as reported by or investigative reporter Mr/Ms XXX in this news feed on ??/???/33?? ". And maybe very occasionally for some Galnet speculative articles?
Otherwise-great game & really enjoying it!
Someone posted it before, but as the creator of this forms, I'd like to go a bit in detail.
If you are exploring worlds in search for Barnacles or UAs, help the Canonn to create a huge database. With that, in the future, researchers will have a great base to carry on with the investigations.
There is a reason why we ask every detail in the form, including the "Nebula name". If you want to know why, open the spoiler:
If you have nay question or suggestion, send me a PM (I will likely miss most of the messages in this post).
If you are exploring worlds in search for Barnacles or UAs, help the Canonn to create a huge database. With that, in the future, researchers will have a great base to carry on with the investigations.
There is a reason why we ask every detail in the form, including the "Nebula name". If you want to know why, open the spoiler:
The actual hypothesis says that the barnacles do grow in Nebula systems, as they have only appeared in the Pleiades. Many researchers are surveying close nebulas in search of UAs or Barnacles (Orion, Witchhead and Barnard´s loop at present).
The observations seem to indicate that the Barnacles "grow" in sandy low ground, usually at the base of craters or canyons, and in metal rich planets.
We could ask only if the planet had "brown ground canyons", but all our observations may change in the future. Maybe we will find a new sort of structure that grows in a different surface; by creating a planet database it will help us with future research.
The observations seem to indicate that the Barnacles "grow" in sandy low ground, usually at the base of craters or canyons, and in metal rich planets.
We could ask only if the planet had "brown ground canyons", but all our observations may change in the future. Maybe we will find a new sort of structure that grows in a different surface; by creating a planet database it will help us with future research.
If you have nay question or suggestion, send me a PM (I will likely miss most of the messages in this post).
Love it... Can't rep atm - on phone
Sorry for off-topic, but here's a clue for you : on most mobile browsers such as chrome, Firefox or opera, you have an option to render the page as seen on a computer, and that helps a lot.
(now returning to catch up with the thread)
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I just use the 'Full Site' link at the bottom of the page
Spoilers work, then, too
Edit: on a general 'smart-device-user' point: the 'request desktop site' functionality is gradually becoming obsolete as more and more websites become 'responsive'. UA-detection is a dark art and prone to problems!
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Funny how a lot of people have been more than happily enjoying this part of the game the way it is for around 1 year now. It's only the newcomers who want the instant gratification.
The clues are, as has been pointed out many many times, within the game framework and as for "a lot of wild speculative theories with (often) no way to test them"... Welcome to science
Go and tell that to a theoretical physicist, who come up with a lot of our theories about space, because don't forget that most of what we "know" about space is all based upon theories that can't be tested other than by trying to make what we know fit the theories we have.
OK, OK,
I think I have a plausible reason and purpose for the Barnacles.. Here goes...
The Barnacles have been sent by an alien race which is preparing to come a great distance to investigate our ‘Bubble’.
In order to traverse a great distance you need to ensure that if you don’t like it when you get there, you can get back!
For this you are going to ensure you have the resource to return home (Wherever that may be)
Humans require materials to repair, reload and enhance jump distance. Currently we cannot repair our hulls using synthesis, however something tells me Meta-Alloys will.
Barnacles produce everything you would requires for a BIG trip, Materials and Alloys all in one place, a one stop shop to harvest and get back home! Or, maybe set up a base?
Of course you need to know your Barnacles are ‘alive’ and producing your goods... so send a load of survey scouts to relay back information on how your Barnacles are doing, where they are and anything else interesting before you commit a fleet to jump that HUGE distance.
It would seem the Barnacles are producing the goods, has that alien fleet already set off? Are they jumping from the Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy (Sgr dE or Sag DEG) or the Large Magellanic Cloud (LMC)?
Hmmmmm....
I think I have a plausible reason and purpose for the Barnacles.. Here goes...
The Barnacles have been sent by an alien race which is preparing to come a great distance to investigate our ‘Bubble’.
In order to traverse a great distance you need to ensure that if you don’t like it when you get there, you can get back!
For this you are going to ensure you have the resource to return home (Wherever that may be)
Humans require materials to repair, reload and enhance jump distance. Currently we cannot repair our hulls using synthesis, however something tells me Meta-Alloys will.
Barnacles produce everything you would requires for a BIG trip, Materials and Alloys all in one place, a one stop shop to harvest and get back home! Or, maybe set up a base?
Of course you need to know your Barnacles are ‘alive’ and producing your goods... so send a load of survey scouts to relay back information on how your Barnacles are doing, where they are and anything else interesting before you commit a fleet to jump that HUGE distance.
It would seem the Barnacles are producing the goods, has that alien fleet already set off? Are they jumping from the Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy (Sgr dE or Sag DEG) or the Large Magellanic Cloud (LMC)?
Hmmmmm....
Hello all, I've been following the Canonn's discoveries with great interest (well as best as I can, it's hard to keep up - such is the pace of progress!). Incredible work to date, please have a hobnob (or biscuit of choice) on me!
Appreciate this is nothing revelatory, but some edited thoughts reposted from the KotB thread:
Wish everyone the best of luck in expanding our knowledge of suitable nebulae systems for our new friends. There's a lot of ground to cover of course...and so our most intrepid explorers have made excursions from Barnard's Loop to the Spirograph Nebula, in the hope of some chance discovery...here's hoping for the next clue or breakthrough to spur us all on
Appreciate this is nothing revelatory, but some edited thoughts reposted from the KotB thread:
I read the first page of thread 5 again. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=222049
Michael Brookes is quoted as saying: "And to those asking why nebulae - it's quite logical if you think about it
So we know this (please correct me if this is inaccurate):
1. Nebulae are massive clouds of gas and dust that often contain the elements necessary for star formation. Some of those elements end up in other planetary bodies in those star systems, such as metals and so forth.
2. The barnacles and / or their 'trees' organically produce advanced alloys from these base elements - this appears to be analogous to plants producing fruit.
3. Like any plant, the quality of the soil will determine the quality of the fruit - in this case, the source elements available in the system.
4. So a smart galactic farmer will place his plants in the most fertile star systems for the best results. So far, this consists of systems with metal worlds, lying within the noted temperature and gravity ranges - the more systems we find, the more we'll learn about suitable conditions.
5. And the more we learn, the more 'fields' we'll discover - suitable nebulae for farming. Do different fields contain different soil, with different plants?
6. And as we find more fields, sooner or later we'll bump into the farmers...will they mind us discovering and taking their harvests?
Let's find the farmers
Furthermore, could barnacles be equipped with an alarm or warning system? Could they have already have tipped off their owners about our interference? Our farmers would surely monitor them in some way? I look forward to meeting them, hope they're not annoyed as I wouldn't say no to a day out on the farm ha ha
And can barnacles spread? Either by themselves, or through interaction with us? There's been speculation that UAs are barnacles, or the necessary materials, in transport. Could barnacles have taken root from UAs carried in the holds of crashed ships? Could we ever discover a way to plant one ourselves from a UA? What if meta-alloys self replicate? What if barnacles start appearing in, or on, space stations...!!
Wish everyone the best of luck in expanding our knowledge of suitable nebulae systems for our new friends. There's a lot of ground to cover of course...and so our most intrepid explorers have made excursions from Barnard's Loop to the Spirograph Nebula, in the hope of some chance discovery...here's hoping for the next clue or breakthrough to spur us all on
I'm at the barnacle in Pleionde 1 A currently. What if the 'logo' doesn't show a nebula, but a kind of embryo? And the 'thing' in the middle is a kind of uterus? The strange noises could be the 'moving' of the embryo....
Just a thought...
Just a thought...
I'm going to have to duck out and head back to the bubble from my current nebula this weekend and effectively give up on the search for now. I've still had nothing back from FD whether its worth continuing to search given the problems with Persistent POIs/Barnacles spawning. Shame really for such a key piece of the game, we enjoying it immensely but I have the feeling I'm just wasting my time at the moment.
If anyone has heard any different let me know.
If anyone has heard any different let me know.
Do we have any other method for extracting meta-alloys than shooting the barnacles with lethal weapons? If not, then I think that Dr. Palin is insane by issuing a request on public to bring him barnacles. Those barnacles can be sentient and even if not, they are certainly not property of human race. Regardless people now go blowing them up in their short-sighted greediness or "in the name of science" (which I honestly think is only a excuse for that greediness) -- My Annie's tail! This will bring about trouble, mark my words!
That mr. Palin is no scientist and therefore I refuse to call him a doc anymore. A real scientist would never issue such requests, knowing what would happen. Surely, mr. Palin is no better than rest of the Federation, which used to be his host.
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That mr. Palin is no scientist and therefore I refuse to call him a doc anymore. A real scientist would never issue such requests, knowing what would happen. Surely, mr. Palin is no better than rest of the Federation, which used to be his host.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this guys, but I think I've solved the problem of the Barnacles not spawning for people in Solo. After being fine all last night, today the one at Merope 5C refused to appear. I got out and had a look around in my SRV and noticed that my ship appeared to have the same wave signature as the Barnacle.
I moved out of the area, dismissed my ship and then logged out. On logging back in, the Barnacle then respawned.
Hope this helps those that are having issues.
I moved out of the area, dismissed my ship and then logged out. On logging back in, the Barnacle then respawned.
Hope this helps those that are having issues.
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Thanks Irons, but the problem is that this doesnt really work if you are flying low over a planet many many light years away in a distant nebula looking for new Barnacles. Still have some +rep
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To be fair if you're not going to take part in something in a game because of bugs that only affect the game sometimes, then you're not going to be doing a lot in this or many other games
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To be fair if you're not going to take part in something in a game because of bugs that only affect the game sometimes, then you're not going to be doing a lot in this or many other games
To be fair this isn't intermittent for me, and FD have not issued any guidance I can't even get any confirmation that they will always show under any circumstance. Still as long as you're doing fine thats great.
If they are fruit, meant to be harvested, cutting them off with basically a laser scalpel would not have to be seen as hostile.
If they are embryos or reproductive organs .. ouch .. and double ouch.
Least it's a clear sign to any alien force not to mess with humanity.
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