UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

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simulacrae

simulacrae
Soban said:
Sorry for off-topic, but here's a clue for you : on most mobile browsers such as chrome, Firefox or opera, you have an option to render the page as seen on a computer, and that helps a lot.
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Thank you ... Funny how easy it is to get stuck in a certain rut. Its not like I didn't know these options existed... I just accepted that the mobile version "was best" for my phone... Im off to re-evaluate my life choices now
 

Bungalo

Bungalo
The barnacle song does not seem to restart upon relogging. Four times I've logged out of solo with my SRV next to the barnacle and then logged back in, promptly turning off the noisy wave scanner. The result was a different sequence each time. It is as if there is a continual track of barnacle song and it either keeps going or remembers where you left off when you come back. The latter seems less likely.

Side note, these barnacles seem to be more like trees than barnacles. Barnacles, while stationary, move (filter feed). The spikes remind me of blossoms on a tree.

/puts on speculation hat
Perhaps the elements in the spikes as a type of waste product/fruit? Or, as I think others have pondered, it could be an organic mine.
 

Ozric

Volunteer Moderator
Ozric
Bungalo said:
The barnacle song does not seem to restart upon relogging. Four times I've logged out of solo with my SRV next to the barnacle and then logged back in, promptly turning off the noisy wave scanner. The result was a different sequence each time. It is as if there is a continual track of barnacle song and it either keeps going or remembers where you left off when you come back. The latter seems less likely.

Side note, these barnacles seem to be more like trees than barnacles. Barnacles, while stationary, move (filter feed). The spikes remind me of blossoms on a tree.

/puts on speculation hat
Perhaps the elements in the spikes as a type of waste product/fruit? Or, as I think others have pondered, it could be an organic mine.
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I would like to hope the song is a continuous one and you just happen to hear it where ever it is when you drop in.

I pondered many moons ago about the Anaconda bringing supplies of rare materials to "feed" the barnacle in order to produce the Meta-Alloys
 

Lurkinator

L
Is there any chance that the UA's are from a seperate alien race that threatens both the Thargoids and Humans, and the Thargoids have sent us Barnacles to mine Meta-alloys to protect ourselves from UA damage?
 

MadDogMurdock

MadDogMurdock
Hidden somewhere in a nebula...

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Boomer Kay

B
Ozric said:
I pondered many moons ago about the Anaconda bringing supplies of rare materials to "feed" the barnacle in order to produce the Meta-Alloys
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That means that some human already knew about them?
Has there been any investigation in human space for information regarding the barnacles?
 

yoda711

yoda711
I've updated my "habitable zone" graph again.

Didn't add any more data points, but rather removed a few that were causing inconsistencies. The 3 planets I removed all had "iron magma volcanism" which were artificially raising the surface temperature above where it should be, based on the distance from the star alone.

As far as I can tell, the other kind of volcanism, "silicate vapour geysers," does not raise the surface temperature -- at least not significantly.

I also changed the trendline to a 2nd order polynomial which seems to fit the few data points better. I will continue to hunt.

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So, if you're trying to find candidate planets without DSS'ing each one in a system, this should give you a rough idea where to look based on star temperature alone. Might save you some time. Of course, volcanism and other factors (orbiting a secondary star) can raise the temperature, and so far we don't know if barnacles are ok with that or not.

So here is my updated criteria:

Planets to look for:
In or near nebula
Mild surface temperature (194-379K), non-icy (use the graph to quickly locate)
Low-G planets? Barnacles may just prefer steep canyon walls, more common on low-G planets.
No "heat producing" volcanism? (silicate vapour is ok)

Once you've found a candidate planet, look for:
Mineral deposit zones
Flat-bottomed, fairly deep canyons, sandy looking ground
Usually close to canyon walls

There are actually surprisingly few planets within the Pleiades Nebula that fit all these critera. I took a stroll around Pleione 11 B through I for a few hours last night. Didn't see any barnacles, but then I went back to 11A to refresh my memory of what the canyon looked like, and the 2 barnacles were not spawning there either. Re-logged, and there it was! Really hoping FD fixes the spawn bug!
 

CMDR Runcible Shaw

CMDR Runcible Shaw
yoda711 said:
I've updated my "habitable zone" graph again.

Didn't add any more data points, but rather removed a few that were causing inconsistencies. The 3 planets I removed all had "iron magma volcanism" which were artificially raising the surface temperature above where it should be, based on the distance from the star alone.

As far as I can tell, the other kind of volcanism, "silicate vapour geysers," does not raise the surface temperature -- at least not significantly.

I also changed the trendline to a 2nd order polynomial which seems to fit the few data points better. I will continue to hunt.

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So, if you're trying to find candidate planets without DSS'ing each one in a system, this should give you a rough idea where to look based on star temperature alone. Might save you some time. Of course, volcanism and other factors (orbiting a secondary star) can raise the temperature, and so far we don't know if barnacles are ok with that or not.

So here is my updated criteria:

Planets to look for:
In or near nebula
Mild surface temperature (194-379K), non-icy (use the graph to quickly locate)
Low-G planets? Barnacles may just prefer steep canyon walls, more common on low-G planets.
No "heat producing" volcanism? (silicate vapour is ok)

Once you've found a candidate planet, look for:
Mineral deposit zones
Flat-bottomed, fairly deep canyons, sandy looking ground
Usually close to canyon walls

There are actually surprisingly few planets within the Pleiades Nebula that fit all these critera. I took a stroll around Pleione 11 B through I for a few hours last night. Didn't see any barnacles, but then I went back to 11A to refresh my memory of what the canyon looked like, and the 2 barnacles were not spawning there either. Re-logged, and there it was! Really hoping FD fixes the spawn bug!
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Where are you getting all these data points? I thought barnacles had only been found on 3 planets total. Did I miss some new ones?
 

yoda711

yoda711
CMDR Runcible Shaw said:
Where are you getting all these data points? I thought barnacles had only been found on 3 planets total. Did I miss some new ones?
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Technically 4 planets if you count the binary pair as 2 planets, but yes you're right. I'm just looking for planets within the temperature range where barnacles have already been found. MB said to think logically, so... that's what I'm doing.

edit: I will update to show the confirmed barnacle planets in a different color.
 
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weisenheimer

weisenheimer
When I landed at the Merope 5C location the other week, I did the same thing with the debug camera - - it was in the daytime and coincidentally Merope was dead center of the orifice looking out. I'm not sure much is to be made of that, but what if something can be observed at barnacles when they come into alignment with Pleiades and/or Merope? I couldn't stay long enough to make such observations, there or elsewhere.

cyberus said:
Hello fellas.

Meaby it is nothing but this is what i have discovered at barnacle in Merope system.

After looking around from inside out the barnacle its clearly point to the Celaeno system.....though this one has only 2 planets.... one is High metal rich planet ( probably with some vulcanic actievity by looking at planet ) and the secont star about 13000+ LS away.

The second star is High metal content world....but both are not landable.... (yet? bug? ).

So as i sayd meaby its nothing and just random position of the barnacle and probably need to test with other barnacles in difrent systems.

So here is the images below so you cant look by you self how precisly this one pointing towards Celaeno system.

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CMDR JP76

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Head for the Heart of the Devil!!

Hi all, first off good effort to you all that have participated in all of this since the start, and to the Cmdr that first discovered the Barnacles!


Im participating in the Meta alloy CG and yesterday was my first trip to find the one on Merope 5C. This one: -26.3515 -156.4056

I soon learnt how to spot the site from 1000's of km away, so if i may ill put these pics here as a reference as how to spot the site, for those who haven't been yet or struggle to find it.




Ok the pics are in order from an approach.....

In this first one as you approach head for the yellowish mark below the arrow, note the darker area just above and to the right.
MeropeLandmarks.jpg



ok next one closer in, and look for the 'Devil' see it? (Kinda reminds me of the Man UTD Devil on their logo) Head for the heart!
Meropelandmarks2.jpg



Head for the bottom left of heart.
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This next one was taken with my phone yesterday for reference, please excuse quality :p
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Hope it helps!

Keep up the good work fellas! o7

Fly safe

J.
 

John Stoutbeard

John Stoutbeard
MadDogMurdock said:
How do we like this as a potential symbol match?

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JTM151 said:
Which nebula is that?
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MadDogMurdock said:
That's what I like about this one - it's two nebulae lined up.
It gives a fairly specific location with a bit of wiggle room to adjust them.
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Yep, we discussed it a few pages ago: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=222049&page=491&p=3440760#post3440760

Panzertard said:
Another 'Ahhh, hmmmm' moment here. So I leave it here for later lookup for the next systems we discover.
Just noticed it when I looked at the position of the 3 systems we've found the barnacle so far.
Not sure whether it means something though.


Mobileusers, Album url: https://imgur.com/a/w5SpV
Sorry, description seems to be cached with the incorrect description. Should read "Merope at the bottom, Pleione middle, JC-U B3-2 top"
Taurus Dark region <-> Aries Dark Region
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This seen from above Taurus, while Taurus overshadows Pleiades.
Hm. Not enough resemblance is it.

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But also what was discussed:



rizal72 said:
Panzer! I was on the exact same thing last night! I've noticed the Taurus Dark Nebula being on the vector of the Barnacles systems, and I've looked at the Pleiades Nebula from there, spotting the similarities with the SYMBOL. Well done!
The only problem is that that nebula does not have stars inside it. But we know that being exactly inside a nebula is no more e requisite for a Barnacle to exist. ;)
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Some people headed off to do a little investigation though.
Not sure of any results, been away for a few days and skipped a few pages.
 
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