UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 5 - The Canonn

[Iridium Nova]

Also true...but being as the Thargoids are also human-made (assuming all the Frontier staff are indeed human... ) which would make for the cooler GalNet headline from Frontier's perspective?

"New discovery of alien 'barnacles' in NGC 6514"?
Or
"New discovery of alien 'barnacles' in the Trifid Nebula"? <-

If you get right down to it, the Thargoids were created by David Braben and Ian Bell. I wonder which of the two had more creative input into their creation.

 

[MadDogMurdock]

The temperature spread isn't all that large, in a galactic sense. In fact Id call it rather narrow. I found whole systems with no landfall planets in that range, or only one planet whose moons all fall in that range. This is especially true for cooler stars.

The habitable zone theory is an ok one but 3 planets (including the binary) isn't a very big sample and if pilots only look in the specified range it'll be self-fulfilling.

 

[simulacrae]

If you get right down to it, the Thargoids were created by David Braben and Ian Bell. I wonder which of the two had more creative input into their creation.

Hahahah tricked again!

Spoiler

What would Captain Kremmen Say?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShCCSF9m-7M

 

[Ecco]

If you get right down to it, the Thargoids were created by David Braben and Ian Bell. I wonder which of the two had more creative input into their creation.

I think MB confirmed back when the Lovecraft connections where being thrown around that he did not choose the locations of any of the UA/Barnicle stuff. He said someone else chose those locations.

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

To the folks checking nebulae:

No, we don't have any specifics of where to look. Our best guess based on the limited number of locations is that more barnacles might be fund inside a nebula, on a planet in a low lying area (canyon or crater) with a sandy bottom. Thinking in terms of a barnacle "habitable zone" may be useful, but the spread of temperatures we have now is quite large.

The Canonn is collecting survey data on landable planets in nebula. We may not find anything, but having a database of info on planets in nebula may help us find more barnales once we have a more specific definition of where they are likely to be.

Please, record your travels here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1H2Cte6s8KpDmLP6vSRDkocK2d12Vylpq0JKn_THVomk/viewform?c=0&w=1

Data can be viewed here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1uvZfNx1AA22W-3462ayaycIWZwbDGIZQdwd6xtISt-A/htmlview#gid=0

As you can see, we are collecting info on the general geography of landable objects (description of surface and coloration) as well as specific info on canyons (and craters) found on these planets. If you would also like to record gravity and temperature, please put that in the planet description.



Oh, and let'd all keep checking post #2 of this thread for all the information that we do know - barnacle locations, news, etc.

Thank you.

 

[Lateralus]

Last night (from at least 19:00 - 23:45 GMT), me and a friend noticed a pattern in the barnacles on two planets (Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 1 & Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 2). They were all pointing directly at the Large Magellanic Cloud - not sure whether this is significant or just a bizarre coincidence with the timing of when we visited the sites.

Sorry, no screenshots or videos yet unfortunately.

Here's my friends reddit post on the subject; https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/42icnk/about_these_barnacles/

 

[CHOPP3R]

Last night (from at least 19:00 - 23:45 GMT), me and a friend noticed a pattern in the barnacles on two planets (Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 1 & Pleiades Sector JC-U B3-2 2). They were all pointing directly at the Large Magellanic Cloud - not sure whether this is significant or just a bizarre coincidence with the timing of when we visited the sites.

Sorry, no screenshots or videos yet unfortunately.

Here's my friends reddit post on the subject; https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/42icnk/about_these_barnacles/

Just remember, everything is space is moving, whether it rotates or orbits. It's unlikely to be pointing right at it in the next few hours, or anything else unless it's giving a clue as to where the next one is on the same planet somehow!

 

[Lateralus]

Just remember, everything is space is moving, whether it rotates or orbits. It's unlikely to be pointing right at it in the next few hours, or anything else unless it's giving a clue as to where the next one is on the same planet somehow!

Yes that's true, but if an object is at a certain point on a planets rotational axis, it will face the same direction all the time regardless of the time of day of the planet - it would just rotate round in a circular motion relative to the object in the sky.

As I said though, it's just what we observed at the time on two different planets - might be worth checking out.

 

[CHOPP3R]

I was in debug cam looking at a barnacle on Pleiades Sector JC-U b3-2 2 (the one at 49.06, 102.93 specifically) and noticed that the light that the barnacle emits along the ground only shines out in four directions. This one is aligned pretty much N/S as well (N is directly upwards in this image), although I understand that they are oriented in various directions I lined it up for reference against others.

Not sure what to make of the light and whether it's relevant or not but thought I'd bring it up here in case it helps the way anyone else is thinking at the moment, and it looks pretty

 

[CMDR JP76]

Just remember, everything is space is moving, whether it rotates or orbits. It's unlikely to be pointing right at it in the next few hours, or anything else unless it's giving a clue as to where the next one is on the same planet somehow!

Yep, I posted this pic yesterday a few pages back....you can just see the LMC dipping below the crater rim, so at some point yesterday it was directly aligned with the symbol on the Barnacle.

Thanks again for pointing those 3 out to me CMDR Chopper! They were even easier to spot yesterday as it was on the dark side of the moon.

J

 

[LordZoltan]

Yes that's true, but if an object is at a certain point on a planets rotational axis, it will face the same direction all the time regardless of the time of day of the planet - it would just rotate round in a circular motion relative to the object in the sky.

As I said though, it's just what we observed at the time on two different planets - might be worth checking out.

The idea that the Barnacles might point 'somewhere' is indeed compelling, especially given the UA behaviour. A few people have suggested this after getting tantalising hints that they do. The problem with all of them so far is that no part of them has been observed moving once you're in the instance, regardless of how long you stay there - which they'd need to do if they were always going to point to the same place of course.

As a result, all instances point to a whole bunch of places at least once at some point. And sometimes you'll be there and looking up and it'll point to something significant, leading to the inevitable conclusion that it's somehow important.

So I'm not convinced by this angle - but that doesn't mean I'm personally dismissing it as a possibility, just that we haven't got any real evidence for it yet. So please, do keep bringing it - there might be something there

 

[CHOPP3R]

Another thought I had last night is that the height of each structure around the barnacle, and the height of the barnacle itself, along with the position of each one would allow each point to be plotted in 3D. Any plotting wizards that could do this?

Treating the barnacle as some sort of central location it may point to other nebulae that contain barnacles if it's overlaid onto the glactic map (or, if the barnacle positions and heights are different in different nebulae (we don't know whether they are or not yet) may point to other systems if we centre it on Merope or Maia for this layout that we have at the moment).

 

[CMDR Sheehy]

The idea that the Barnacles might point 'somewhere' is indeed compelling, especially given the UA behaviour. A few people have suggested this after getting tantalising hints that they do. The problem with all of them so far is that no part of them has been observed moving once you're in the instance, regardless of how long you stay there - which they'd need to do if they were always going to point to the same place of course.

As a result, all instances point to a whole bunch of places at least once at some point. And sometimes you'll be there and looking up and it'll point to something significant, leading to the inevitable conclusion that it's somehow important.

So I'm not convinced by this angle - but that doesn't mean I'm personally dismissing it as a possibility, just that we haven't got any real evidence for it yet. So please, do keep bringing it - there might be something there

Is it possible that at their noon, they always point to the sun? i.e. they are located in the place that gets most sun? That would make most sense from a utilitarian point of view!

 

[DarthDogCow]

Another thought I had last night is that the height of each structure around the barnacle, and the height of the barnacle itself, along with the position of each one would allow each point to be plotted in 3D. Any plotting wizards that could do this?

Treating the barnacle as some sort of central location it may point to other nebulae that contain barnacles if it's overlaid onto the glactic map (or, if the barnacle positions and heights are different in different nebulae (we don't know whether they are or not yet) may point to other systems if we centre it on Merope or Maia for this layout that we have at the moment).

I was thinking along the same lines. If the reverse "morse -> vector" logic was applied as the UAs use to map ships, what would the output look like?

 

[Tiri]

Patience and bloody-minded determination. I picked a spot, flipped modes between a private group and solo, and then made minor adjustments to make each trip from my ship to the barnacle as efficient as I could. For example, I parked my cutter just far enough away that when I got to the barnacle arms with the pods my turret just came online. Every other mode switch I would lift the cutter a few metres off the ground and resettle it, so that it wouldn't sink into the ground with repeated logins and trap my SRV beneath the ship, because if I had to recall my ship, it would invariably land half a km away and mess up my system. At my peak, I could collect about 60 meta-alloys an hour, so this probably amounts to about 14-15 hours of work!

Exactly what I was doing on Saturday...
Just driving from my parked Python to the barnacle - farm - go back - relog...
Roughly about 4 hours going to fill those 224t of cargo!

 

[rizal72]

I was thinking along the same lines. If the reverse "morse -> vector" logic was applied as the UAs use to map ships, what would the output look like?

You cannot apply the reverse logic, sorry.
It's a simple 26x26 grid, with all the alphabet letters on the two axis.
There are 1000 different ways you can draw something, in your case a barnacle, on that grid.
Check post #3 to understand well how the UA draws a ship using morse and you'll understand what I mean.

 

[Wobblin-Gobblin]

Just a heads up. But some CMDRs on the Distant Worlds voyage are experiencing temporary "eclipses" while driving on the surface of planets as if a large ship was passing between them and the shadow casting star in the system.

Sounds interesting

 

[Altarf]

Sounds interesting

Sounds like a bug

 

[Han_Zen]

Exactly what I was doing on Saturday...
Just driving from my parked Python to the barnacle - farm - go back - relog...
Roughly about 4 hours going to fill those 224t of cargo!

I'm impressed. I don't have that kind of gameplay in me.

I think it is utterly stupid that the barnacles aren't persistent for each commander. Harvesting one and moving to the next one would at least be a little bit interesting. I would have done it this if the barnacles were spawning consistently.
Having to log of and on to do the CG effectively is totally pointless. It would have been better if the barnacle just re-spawned after 5 min.

I will deliver the Meta-Alloys that drops in to my SRV during other tests, but I don't have the will power to grind them.

 

[Fehler]

Has someone tried to use the meta alloys as seeds yet? I mean leaving them on the ground instead of collecting them, because once you pick them up they are in a cargo container (fortunately, they can be moved by pushing them with the SRV). Maybe the cargo container prevents the meta alloy seeds from growing. Anyway ,I tried both ways of "seeding" close to the barnacle at the anaconda site. Please tell me if you notice any changes on the area surrounding the barnacle.