Black Holes?

trekman

trekman
SuperSharpShooter said:
I am just new to the forum, so it could be that my question is not really original? Nevertheless, will there be black holes in the Elite Dangerous Univers we can fly into? Would be cool? :eek:
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Well the game is supposed to be true representation of the milky way galaxy and scientists believe there is a super massive black hole at the star Sagittarius A. You definitely wouldn't want to intentionally fly into one though unless your are planning to commit suicide because nothing, not even light, can escape from the gravitational pull of a black hole.
 

AnnuverScotinExile

AnnuverScotinExile
trekman said:
Well the game is supposed to be true representation of the milky way galaxy and scientists believe there is a super massive black hole at the star Sagittarius A. You definitely wouldn't want to intentionally fly into one though unless your are planning to commit suicide because nothing, not even light, can escape from the gravitational pull of a black hole.
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Hawking radiation
 

HaB1971

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If there is a Black hole in the game I hope that Dr Reinhardt aboard the Cygnus is just floating outside of the event horizon...
 

PacalB

PacalB
Rog said:
There was a previous thread on this: PBF I'm afraid.

Of course as far as we know now, entering a black hole would be 'very bad' (but this is an unrealistic game, remember), so although it should usually kill you, it might also provide the opportunity for a large random jump (with damage of course), getting stuck in witchspace, maybe getting flung back to a previous "save" (time travel) or an alternative "strange" event.

At the very least, it should invalidate your ship insurance, cheap or otherwise. :D
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No Rog, just no. :mad: :D
 

MiNi

MiNi
Daeron said:
The normal procedure when approaching a black hole is to turn around. Or else you will be the thinnest string of particles ever, for what short time you have left in the visible universe. Not that it matters, since you will already be quite dead.

It would indeed be great to not go near those!
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Actually, turning around is probably the worst thing to do trying to escape, unless you are so far out that the force still is weak.

The most efficient way to deal with the force is not to turn away but is to slingshoot around it, in that respect it's not much different than any planet where nasa do course corrections, just regard it as a gravity well.but try not to get in to deep, so you can't escape.

In our own galaxy it have recntly been proved that a handfull of suns is rotating very fast oround the super massive hole existing there.
so they are for now just rotating just like the earth is around the sun.
So conclution. A black hole is not the instant death many think it is.
Regard it as feks a planet, get to close in your passage and you crash :)

Hope it make sense.
 

Daeron

Daeron
MiNi said:
Actually, turning around is probably the worst thing to do trying to escape, unless you are so far out that the force still is weak.

The most efficient way to deal with the force is not to turn away but is to slingshoot around it, in that respect it's not much different than any planet where nasa do course corrections, just regard it as a gravity well.but try not to get in to deep, so you can't escape.

In our own galaxy it have recntly been proved that a handfull of suns is rotating very fast oround the super massive hole existing there.
so they are for now just rotating just like the earth is around the sun.
So conclution. A black hole is not the instant death many think it is.
Regard it as feks a planet, get to close in your passage and you crash :)

Hope it make sense.
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In my world "approach" would be somewhere not even remotely close to slingshoot maneuvers on that thing. You crazy, crazy person. I will leave that to you explorers. :)
 

kenwshmt

kenwshmt
an immense gaseous envelope that had formed around a neutron star directly in their path. The Smoke Ring was home to a variety of plant and animal life-forms evolved to thrive in conditions of continual free-fall. When Discipline encountered it, something went wrong. The crew abandoned ship and fled to the unlikely space oasis.

Five hundred years later, the descendants of the Discipline crew living on the Smoke Ring no longer remember their origins. Earth is more myth than memory, and no recollection of the State remains. But Kendy remembers. And just outside the Smoke Ring, Discipline waits patiently to make contact with its wayward children.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Integral_Trees

http://www.amazon.com/The-Integral-Trees-Smoke-Ring/dp/0345460367

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its not one of niven's best works, but they are entertaining.
 

CoSm1c gAm3r

CoSm1c gAm3r
Sterlino said:
Black Holes ? yes please.

they will be awesome traps.... :D
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100% agree on that :)

It would be fun factor to live in fear while making hyperjumps. No one knows if there are no black holes in deep space away from stars that would orbit them and clearly show them to anybody.
 
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Deus

Deus
Hellhawk666 said:
When I was in uni in the late 70s there was huge poster for that movie on a hoarding near a busstop outside the uni gates. One evening some of the undergrads got to it with paint and very expertly adjusted two letters in the title so that it was now proudly advertising:

THE SLACK MOLE

Best graffiti I've ever seen :)
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Yeah... don't know what's scarier... especially out near Penrith...

More to the topic,
Coming within 1,000,000 km's of an in-game black hole, the heat and radiation would destroy the ship well before the event horizon anyway, that is if you were to make it realistic. So the premise of having in-game black holes will be purely eye candy, and possibly waste disposal :)
 

Taren Reichhardt

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It would be an interesting option, but two things of caution. First the closest known black hole is still several thousand light years away.

Second, there is an intense all radiation around a black hole, a lot more powerful then anything the tiny beam laser on your ship might produce. ;)

Around black holes even the next several light years would be a death zone.
 

Le-Betz

Le-Betz
Taren Reichhardt said:
It would be an interesting option, but two things of caution. First the closest known black hole is still several thousand light years away. (...)
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According to this article, the nearest black hole is just about 1600 LY away, far nearer than the supermassive one in the center of the milky way known as Sagittarius A*.

There is a very nice video about Sgr A* interacting with a gas cloud on the site of the ESO (click on the image):



It's also possible to have a look at Sgr A* in Celestia.
Naturally you can't see the black hole itself, but the view of the stars racing around it looks spectacular.
 
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Memnoch

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I know it gets ripped on a lot but I rather like that film. Film critics be-damned. Perhaps its simply a case of seeing Poirot in space that does it for me. :)
 

Boff'in

Boff'in
Memnoch said:
I know it gets ripped on a lot but I rather like that film. Film critics be-damned. Perhaps its simply a case of seeing Poirot in space that does it for me. :)
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hehehe,
I do have to agree with you :)

it's still crap,

but there is something charming about it.
 
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