Avago Earo
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I don't give a **** what people think of me.
Nor should you.
Nor should you.
Let's get one thing straight.
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You should be classified as combat logger by default, OP. Reported!
So, basically your first sentence is "I can't find the whinge fest over mode switching so imma stop you here.." and start one. Cool. Why? It serves no constructive purpose.
I don't care. Use whatever mode you like. I have no idea what constructive purpose yet another thread on this offers; it's just ramming opinion down peoples throats again.
If you have to ask this question of people, I can only presume you are trying to convince yourself, and then attempt to convert others. It's getting old. Want to do something constructive? Talk to frontier.
Because all these threads talking at people isn't doing bupkiss to help.
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The OP made it quite clear he valued all the modes depending on his mood - I found it quite a refreshing outlook IMHO
Sorry the OP got hammered for writing something that required, perish the though using a bit of comprehension and perhaps some reasoned measured responses. Then again this forum is hardly the place for that.
Yep. I don't think people cared so much about that, as being told "it's your fault". Because lately there has been a lot of forum posts that support PVE, by blaming everyone else.
The funny thing is; people can actually switch modes, without needing to blame people. Just change the game mode. Boom. Cool huh? But no. Not enough to change modes. You have to typecast the entirety of open. Which is weird, because it's just not needed.
the assorted replies dissing the OP pretty much makes his point.
OP there is nothing wrong with you, I frequently don't want to deal with people its what makes solo so attractive, you really don't need to justify this though just keep having fun in solo.
What tends to spark all the discussion is people trying to influence modes they don't play in, plenty of people that profess to hate pvp and only play solo spend all their time trying to influence anything to do with it, and plenty of people who only play open spend their time moaning about solo.
I'm probably 10% in the moaning about solo camp but I can usually stay objective enough to keep my personal gripes out of it as I can recognize solo has a great many perks, many of which i take advantage of too.
What tends to spark all the discussion is people trying to influence modes they don't play in, plenty of people that profess to hate pvp and only play solo spend all their time trying to influence anything to do with it, and plenty of people who only play open spend their time moaning about solo.
I'm probably 10% in the moaning about solo camp but I can usually stay objective enough to keep my personal gripes out of it as I can recognize solo has a great many perks, many of which i take advantage of too.
I think the OP has constructed a well-written post and it absolutely hits the nail on the head for me. This community loves to impose individual's beliefs on how the game should be played.
I for one am becoming a miserable old fart who prefers a more collaborative approach to online gameplay. People forget sometimes just how people approach games - exactly that, "games". ED isn't a life choice, isn't some religion I spend 8 hours a day bowing to, isn't a "way of life", isn't a simulator, etc etc. It has to be an enjoyable little escape for me. I sit in front of my PC at the end of the day, or when I have some spare time, and I want to relax and do something enjoyable for an hour or so. As it stands, the game does not deliver much by way of value for money in that short time - short of CQC (which let's consider that a side-game for now, which it is to all intents and purposes, and one that I thoroughly 'get' and enjoy, I like it's concept...).
So sometimes - just *sometimes* - I choose to play solo because I'm just not in the mood either. A great way to sum it up. Everyone's got the choice - leave them to it. It's one of the saving graces of this game.
I for one am becoming a miserable old fart who prefers a more collaborative approach to online gameplay. People forget sometimes just how people approach games - exactly that, "games". ED isn't a life choice, isn't some religion I spend 8 hours a day bowing to, isn't a "way of life", isn't a simulator, etc etc. It has to be an enjoyable little escape for me. I sit in front of my PC at the end of the day, or when I have some spare time, and I want to relax and do something enjoyable for an hour or so. As it stands, the game does not deliver much by way of value for money in that short time - short of CQC (which let's consider that a side-game for now, which it is to all intents and purposes, and one that I thoroughly 'get' and enjoy, I like it's concept...).
So sometimes - just *sometimes* - I choose to play solo because I'm just not in the mood either. A great way to sum it up. Everyone's got the choice - leave them to it. It's one of the saving graces of this game.
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Yeah, me too .. supposedly wisdom comes with age but I wonder when that's going to happen
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A very good and sensible post and something I can relate to. Officially I'm an extrovert but I feel the same way about my time and what I do with it. Sometimes not having to deal with other humans is a very good way to unwind and relax at the end of the day. Rep +1.
If one thing the whole ED backer thing has done for me, it's made me realise a lot more what kind of games I like, and I've just started to be honest with myself about what I choose/purchase. Story-based first-persons - even a FP shooter with a heavy story background - I can get on with. Tombraider, Mass Effect, stuff like that. Or else self-paced tacticals like XCOM. The Witcher is next on my list but I need to finish a few others first
I used to love the collaborative online play of Gears of War - man that nailed it for me, I'd love to see more along those lines too. Up to 4 player versus the AI... I love that stuff. My friends and I can arrange a time slot each week, sit down and get some enjoyment for an hour or two. Combine it with a long-term goal, mission or storyline and tell me where to throw my money
Well everyone has their own reasons. For me, this is the #1 reason why I don't like to PvP in ED. I have no problem with losing, but I have a problem with having to grind 2 hours to recuperate from a single loss. Indeed I do play PvP in games that do not directly, personally punish losing, e.g. multiplayer shooters.
I whole heartedly agree sir, I used to only fly in open now I only go there if I want a bit shoot shoot bang bang. I play Elite for relaxation not kudos/stress from people I don't know.
Actually this thread, or more exactly the opening post, is quite worthy of existing.
The OP was trying to explain in a clear way the reasons why many people do not play open, and most importantly that those people don't need "fixing", nor encouragements of incitations to play in open.
The OP thought (it won't do any good, but he tried) that explaining this might reduce the endless stream of spam "how to fix ED by bringing everybody to open" threads.
This is somewhat similar to the real world thing about extroverts and introverts.
Many extroverts tend to believe that introverts are shy people, and that they are secretly sad, depressed, that they are scared of crowds or being at the center of attention. And then they try to "fix" them, or "help" them, by constantly trying to make them become extroverts. But the thing is that introverts don't need fixing. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with them. They are not sad, they are not depressed, they don't need help and they don't want help. When an extrovert tries to "help" an introvert to become an extrovert, he is not helping at all, they are actually just being an undesirable pain in the butt. Take notice of this: every time you want to "help" a "poor, sad introvert" to become an extrovert, you're not helping at all. You're just being a pain in his butt. YOU are making him miserable, he does not need your help. Extrovert people tend to feel happier when they are with other people, while introverts tend to feel happier when they are alone with their thoughts.
The reason is that introverts mostly tend to have completely different interests than extroverts. They have different interests, like to think about different kinds of things, talk about different kinds of things, approach things in different manners. What is exciting and interesting for extroverts is many times boring and uninteresting for introverts, and the same the other way around. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with either type of person. Neither need help or fixing. They are just different. And people should just respect that, their differences, and each other's space.
The same with all the pointless, endless, circular surges of topics on modes. Some open mode players tend to think that players on other modes need fixing, that they need help, encouragement, etc. And because of this, endless threads spawn on how to help those miserable, sad, shy people of solo and groups, how to encourage them back to the "normality" of open. These people don't need, nor want help. They just want to be left alone, enjoying the game how they want. Like extrovert helping introverts, if you're trying to "help" a group / solo person to go open you're not helping at all, you're just being a pain, and you're under the dellusion that those people need fixing or help.
The game provides choices, each makes his own, respect that, enjoy the game and let others do the same how they want.
The OP was trying to explain in a clear way the reasons why many people do not play open, and most importantly that those people don't need "fixing", nor encouragements of incitations to play in open.
The OP thought (it won't do any good, but he tried) that explaining this might reduce the endless stream of spam "how to fix ED by bringing everybody to open" threads.
This is somewhat similar to the real world thing about extroverts and introverts.
Many extroverts tend to believe that introverts are shy people, and that they are secretly sad, depressed, that they are scared of crowds or being at the center of attention. And then they try to "fix" them, or "help" them, by constantly trying to make them become extroverts. But the thing is that introverts don't need fixing. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with them. They are not sad, they are not depressed, they don't need help and they don't want help. When an extrovert tries to "help" an introvert to become an extrovert, he is not helping at all, they are actually just being an undesirable pain in the butt. Take notice of this: every time you want to "help" a "poor, sad introvert" to become an extrovert, you're not helping at all. You're just being a pain in his butt. YOU are making him miserable, he does not need your help. Extrovert people tend to feel happier when they are with other people, while introverts tend to feel happier when they are alone with their thoughts.
The reason is that introverts mostly tend to have completely different interests than extroverts. They have different interests, like to think about different kinds of things, talk about different kinds of things, approach things in different manners. What is exciting and interesting for extroverts is many times boring and uninteresting for introverts, and the same the other way around. There's nothing fundamentally wrong with either type of person. Neither need help or fixing. They are just different. And people should just respect that, their differences, and each other's space.
The same with all the pointless, endless, circular surges of topics on modes. Some open mode players tend to think that players on other modes need fixing, that they need help, encouragement, etc. And because of this, endless threads spawn on how to help those miserable, sad, shy people of solo and groups, how to encourage them back to the "normality" of open. These people don't need, nor want help. They just want to be left alone, enjoying the game how they want. Like extrovert helping introverts, if you're trying to "help" a group / solo person to go open you're not helping at all, you're just being a pain, and you're under the dellusion that those people need fixing or help.
The game provides choices, each makes his own, respect that, enjoy the game and let others do the same how they want.
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Excuse me, who are you?
OP.. I think everybody should play the game whichever way they enjoy to play it. Just do what you do and don't care what other people think of it.
I think your wall of text was unnecessary though. Just another opinion on this oversaturated subject.
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You think it's a good use of the Moderators' time to deal with facetious reports?
Can't Rep you, seems you've been saying to many things I agree with dam you! I order you to stop doing so right away or I shall be forced to write a letter to the Times on the matter.
OP, Blaze your own trail!