If you wish to limit yourself in a game by some arbitrary rules knock yourself out .. myself, if I see an opportunity I will take it.
You don't like that decision ? Put me in your cross hairs.
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If you wish to limit yourself in a game by some arbitrary rules knock yourself out .. myself, if I see an opportunity I will take it.
You don't like that decision ? Put me in your cross hairs.
I think you'll find that that's exactly what the last sentence of my post said.
And the first sentence.
And the second paragraph.
Basically it's what my whole post was about, which you'd have realised if you'd read more than one line of it.
Let me explain my post in one easily digestible statement:
Play how you like, but don't be surprised if people shoot at you when you annoy them.
Thats pretty much a repeat of the last sentence of the post you quoted, but you don't seem to have understood it.
Don't bother replying on my account, I'm not going to read it, I have no time for people that are trying to find a fight where there isn't one.
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And many in the gaming community view that type of behavior in a negative light. It's seen as a jerk move, maybe even "bullying" perhaps if I were to use the OPs words. I hate doing 95% of the work on a ship and then having some jerk in another ship tag it at the last second and get the credit.
You're right, they're just 'taking an opportunity,' just like I will then take the opportunity to practice my PvP skills if you continue to do it after I reach out to you over coms.
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Newbies dont fly 5m credit ships.
Yup, agreed. And fully outfitted, that Vulture is going to be worth much than 5 million.
That pilot knew exactly what he was doing. Also, look at how the video was cut. This easily could have been the fourth or fifth kill he jumped in on, and the Anaconda very well may have reached out over coms.
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Wrong, I fly an A rated python which costs a lot more than a vulture and I had no idea bounties were not shared. I dont play open and in solo when an NPC kills a wanted enemy you have tagged, YOU get credit and the full bounty. Why would you assume it is different in open?
If you see someone in open it could easily be their FIRST time in open, acting like a jerk is fine but all you do is prove to them that they were right not to play in open with the jerks.
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Let me explain how normal people understand your post in one easy statement:
Play by my rules or I will shoot at you.
You are the reason nobody wants to play in open, enjoy oblivion.
It was the first kill I 'stole'. My Vulture was almost A rated (around 17mil). I reached out over comms, but got nothing during the whole episode. I feel like I was a noob compared to how I've improved since then.
Maybe this video will remind CMDR's to give a quick shout over comes before opening fire. The 'stolen' bounty was worth approx 50k. His rebuy was probably quite a bit more.
Either way, it was an exhilarating experience and a great example of the intense stories that can unfold in open play. My heart was pounding during the entire thing.
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You sound upset that people are calling you out for this.
You're free to play the game your way, and I'm free to play it my way. In my way, I reach out to people who nab my kills. If they continue, I kill them.
That Anaconda chased you off and then left you alone, yet you called him a bully. You decided to go back after him and continue the conflict.
Again, with the way the video is cut any number of things could have happened. Some of us are just calling it as we see it. Most players won't shoot you for one case of kill sniping.
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You're quoting the wrong guy, I'm the OP.
But in response, I've had a very divided opinion on this vid.
Some say I was right and he deserved the rebuy screen. Some say I'm the bully and that they would kill me if I steal their kills.
My personal opinion at the time was that he felt he could bully me out if the haz res because he was in a conda.
In reflection, I think we were both wrong. Him for not speaking to me first, and me for finishing him off after he ran.
I must repeat, that I honestly thought that bounties were shared. It's was only after that I found out you had to wing up to share.
But in response, I've had a very divided opinion on this vid.
Some say I was right and he deserved the rebuy screen. Some say I'm the bully and that they would kill me if I steal their kills.
My personal opinion at the time was that he felt he could bully me out if the haz res because he was in a conda.
In reflection, I think we were both wrong. Him for not speaking to me first, and me for finishing him off after he ran.
I must repeat, that I honestly thought that bounties were shared. It's was only after that I found out you had to wing up to share.
Ok, one last reply as your posts are such a mess that you're actually starting to amuse me.
First post: You can play how you like and if I don't like it I can shoot at you.
Second post: I can't play how I like, and if I shoot at you then I'm the reason no one plays in open.
Which is it?
What next?
You're actually hilarious.
Edit: I quoted two different people here, but I'll leave the post as is so you can all laugh at my retardedness.
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Ah ok, my mistake in thinking he was the OP.
And my first post basically sums up my attitude towards it all (first post in thread). I'm not all upset over what happened, but I do understand the Condas POV.
Mistakes happen. We learned and move on.
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So can I, but you must respect other Pilots enough to say 'hi, let's wing up to share' or 'move along or I will attack'.
If you don't speak English then submit a wing invite.
Common courtesy really.
LOL
- Bullying : no
- Jerk move : perhaps, depends on your motive
- Taking advantage : definitely
- Enticing someone into PvP-combat : you bet !
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You quoting the right people here ? :S
The game lets you do what you want, when you want, to whom you want, without warning or provocation, justification or apology.
You just have to live with the consequences (which right now are pretty lacking but to be addressed, apparently, in next patch)
Just noticed that I wasn't, but I'll leave my retardedness up anyway for future generations to laugh at.
Then it end well, possibly with a group hug ?
(No hard feelings mate - I have done worse on the forums in the past; the mods noticed; out came the huge stick of pain
)You sem confused, I am not the OP, the vids are nothing to do with me, nobody chased me off anything as I have never played in open and I never will. Perhaps you should read before replying in future?
Edit - The quotes from two diff people was noticed pretty quickley. Fissure handled it rather well (respect for not just deleting the post).
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The interesting thing here is that some seem to think the following logic makes sense,
1. I have my definition of how people "should" play
2. If anyone doesnt play how I want them to I will shoot at them (if my ship is bigger/more powerful)
3. I am not a bully, I let people play how they want.
It seems obvious to me that 3 is a contradiction of 1 and 2. I have no problem with this by the way, as I choose not to play in open anyway so it cannot affect me. I just find it interesting, its basicaly a fundamental fault with ED that "low level" players (by which i mean players in a weak ships) share open with billionaires flying pimped out "high level" ships. In every other MMO I have played this is not the case, some MMOs seperate players (based on level), some prevent high levels from attacking low levels etc. ED allows people to play in solo or groups, I guess this is the solution, its not broken, its by design.
1. I have my definition of how people "should" play
2. If anyone doesnt play how I want them to I will shoot at them (if my ship is bigger/more powerful)
3. I am not a bully, I let people play how they want.
It seems obvious to me that 3 is a contradiction of 1 and 2. I have no problem with this by the way, as I choose not to play in open anyway so it cannot affect me. I just find it interesting, its basicaly a fundamental fault with ED that "low level" players (by which i mean players in a weak ships) share open with billionaires flying pimped out "high level" ships. In every other MMO I have played this is not the case, some MMOs seperate players (based on level), some prevent high levels from attacking low levels etc. ED allows people to play in solo or groups, I guess this is the solution, its not broken, its by design.
1.Not my definition, generally accepted rule of online gaming.
2.If I want to shoot at someone it doesn't matter what ship I'm in.
3.You can play how you want, so can I, we both have to deal with the consequences, if I kill someone there's no guarantee they won't come looking for me in a bigger ship or a wing.
Weak ships has absolutely nothing to do with anything, far more important is player skill, I have been killed by better players than me in much lesser ships than I was in at the time, same as I have killed players in better ships than me, (this happens less often, if we're evenly matched I'm usually ok, but I'm not any kind of PVP legend that wins every fight I'm in.)
PVP is allowed in open, we are not talking about Mobius here, and it is allowed for any reason, certainly it's allowed if someone breaks the usual codes of etiquette, and not everyone is a frightened of PVP as you obviously are, for some of us it's a fun part of the game that actually adds realism, that's why we play in open, if you're happy in solo then great, play how you like, I'm glad you're enjoying yourself, but leave us open players to play how we like too.
No one is talking about killing noobs apart from you, if a player is obviously too new to know any better then they get a polite warning (from me anyway), but that wouldn't go for a player in a vulture, if you're in a vulture you should know the rules, and I would have to assume that if you break them you're looking for a fight, in fact that's often how I pick a fight if I want one, you might win, I might win, that's the point of PVP.
Fact is we're never going to agree on this, and to be quite honest, I don't see why you care anyway since you don't play in open.
I'll play the game how I want to play it, like it or don't like it, come get me if you want, but I'm not going to tell you you're doing it wrong, pretty poor show from you to say that to me or anyone else, especially since we're never going to meet in game.
A source of constant arguments on these forums is solo players trying to change open, and open players trying to change or get rid of solo or tempt solo players into open, as far as I'm concerned everyone can play in whatever mode they like, and I think it would be out of order for me to try and change the way the game is played in a mode I don't use, I don't even think it's cool for me to try to change the way other people play their game in modes I do use.
You're entitled to your opinion, but if it's actually on something that you have no experience of or related to something that doesn't affect you at all then everyone else is just as entitled to ignore it.
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Do you think there should be a safe zone, say everate, lhs 3447, etc, that somehow has a no fire policy or something like that?
Or players that have a harmless combat rank can't shoot, or be shot at by other CMDR's?
That way new players can experience open with no fear of getting killed until they are comfortable with the game.