It would be stunning view...
I would just start recording and play something. I think it would be house of the rising sun... And just look in eye of death.
UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn
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I would just start recording and play something. I think it would be house of the rising sun... And just look in eye of death.
I'm sitting in the dark at the Merope 5c barnacle at the moment.
The barnacle looks much the same as it did the last time I was here, but a couple of questions have wandered through whats left of my mind
The barnacle is leaning over slightly, almost as if its pointing somewhere... anyone done any analysis of this?
Also (and the reason I'm at the barnacle) I'm about to mine the mineral spikes, anyone notice any pattern in the distribution of the minerals vs the locations of the barnacles
Bill
<<getting disturbed by the noises from the thing..... indeed my invisible pink unicorn is telling me to leave.... :O
The barnacle looks much the same as it did the last time I was here, but a couple of questions have wandered through whats left of my mind
The barnacle is leaning over slightly, almost as if its pointing somewhere... anyone done any analysis of this?
Also (and the reason I'm at the barnacle) I'm about to mine the mineral spikes, anyone notice any pattern in the distribution of the minerals vs the locations of the barnacles
Bill
<<getting disturbed by the noises from the thing..... indeed my invisible pink unicorn is telling me to leave.... :O
With all this talk of merope possibly going supernova, perhaps it might be wise to make a galnet post to the tune of
"Group inside CIRG speculates on the possibility of future supernova in Merope system"
"Group inside CIRG speculates on the possibility of future supernova in Merope system"
I plan to take a UA toward the formidine rift when we have the cargo racks. May not do anything, as it doesn't fit with what Drew has said so far, but I just figure I'd rather have it and not need it and not need it then vice versa.
dynamicbob
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Something out in the formiddible rift might be a good idea once we have a cargo mod that can negate Unknown artifact damage. One can then probably take large numbers into the deep for applied research
This is just plain awesome, Kyp.
I can't be the only one instantly minded of Starbuck recalling her piano part to reconcile the mystery Cylon music into that awesome future/tribal version of All Along the Watchtower.
This is even more inspiring though.
Sorry all, back to LMC etc
Well this doesn't look natural... BD-12 1172 10 B has a very unnatural crater feature...
A wreck POI on the top and a data intel POI next to it.
http://imgur.com/eJTD1tB
A wreck POI on the top and a data intel POI next to it.
http://imgur.com/eJTD1tB
What has been foretold shall come to pass ...
... and the great unknown shall rent the firmament ... bla bla bla...
Well, we're yet to publish an official retraction on the Firefly Fandango on Galnet, to put forward more speculation would be a little nuts perhaps, but certainly fun
I'm not convinced, but I just report, right
Evidence for it:
135-150ly UA shell marks a 'safe zone' from a possible supernova from Merope
Possible TinFoil theory regarding Halsey and 'stars...creation' (will have to expand on this later as I have to drive to work)
One counter argument I can think of:
If the UAs 'know' about the supernova possibility, and they're related to the Barnacles, why would the Barnacles be placed smack bang in the middle of the danger zone? Seems a little short sighted!
Unless the goal is to get 'us' to distribute the MAs and the UAs to a safe place because they can't do it themselves...
It does also mean, however, that Obsidian Orbital is toast. I can't see that myself.
Torn...
Check out the front page, someone did a detailed chemical analysis of pretty much every barnacle so far. It will tell you which barnacles spawn whatever materials at X location. It's a really really awesome piece of work.
Rho Cassiopeia (RO,C) is due (according to scientists now) to go supernova and it's still there in game. Can't be far off..
Better get straps for those tin foil hats!
It would definitely point towards the "core" of the problem for that star..
https://stardate.org/radio/program/rho-cassiopeia
Better get straps for those tin foil hats!
It would definitely point towards the "core" of the problem for that star..
https://stardate.org/radio/program/rho-cassiopeia
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Yeah it might well do. I've been trying to find something talking about temperature and how it would affect plasma-based life, and because it's all theoretical it's a bit hazy, obviously, but David Brin's Sundiver talked about plasma-based life living in our sun; although a sci fi author he also takes his science seriously IRL.
From what I understand, the requirements here are electrons in plasma rather than specific 'local' conditions such as temp etc, and therefore it's entirely possible for a) such life to exist in and/or around the star; and b) to continue to survive during in a Nova.
However, pre-existing life must surely still be obliterated by a Nova? Or perhaps it would be 'dispersed'.
We could potentially be looking at something slightly different: a shell demarcating a seeding area. The UAs aren't a warning, but a deep-space probe 'front' establishing a safe zone for whatever the UAs or Barnacles, or those responsible are going to *do*.
The plasma connection - especially with the fireflies (and MBs own statement of being interested in plasma life) - is definitely interesting of course.
The supernova thing though... It seems too crazy, especially given that an O type (like Merope's star), from what I can tell, should go through a couple of key long-term changes before 'suddenly' exploding.
The only way it should be possible at the moment is for it to 'go Nova' is if something makes it happen. Perhaps Merope's life and mass would be useful to know on that.
Separately, I've just had a thought about Halsey:
- let's say you're a military organisation, or an organisation involved in producing arms for the military
- Let's also say you were involved in a plot to 'engineer' a fake alien threat because of a real alien threat that nobody knew about, but you do
- Now let's say you back a prominent politician who's right in the frame to become fed pres, and who's a bit of a 'hawk' when it comes to arming and fighting
- You stage an attack on SS1 and ensure that the current president survives, but you don't rescue her because you want to replace her
- when she is rescued, either she witnessed something weird (alien-like - but completely staged by you), or you 'train her' somehow, whilst in her coma, to start talking about weird alien-like things.
- Who better to validate the claim of dangerous aliens/threats than the former, very popular, peace loving president when she comes around?
Just thinking... We never really did reach a satisfactory explanation for: UA Morse, or the early 'top-secret' UA convoys either saying they were told 'not to ask' what they were carrying.
For me, I'm still distinctly uneasy about assuming a wholly extraterrestrial source for both the Barnies and the UAs, or at least the UAs.
TinFoil off
From what I understand, the requirements here are electrons in plasma rather than specific 'local' conditions such as temp etc, and therefore it's entirely possible for a) such life to exist in and/or around the star; and b) to continue to survive during in a Nova.
However, pre-existing life must surely still be obliterated by a Nova? Or perhaps it would be 'dispersed'.
We could potentially be looking at something slightly different: a shell demarcating a seeding area. The UAs aren't a warning, but a deep-space probe 'front' establishing a safe zone for whatever the UAs or Barnacles, or those responsible are going to *do*.
The plasma connection - especially with the fireflies (and MBs own statement of being interested in plasma life) - is definitely interesting of course.
The supernova thing though... It seems too crazy, especially given that an O type (like Merope's star), from what I can tell, should go through a couple of key long-term changes before 'suddenly' exploding.
The only way it should be possible at the moment is for it to 'go Nova' is if something makes it happen. Perhaps Merope's life and mass would be useful to know on that.
Separately, I've just had a thought about Halsey:
- let's say you're a military organisation, or an organisation involved in producing arms for the military
- Let's also say you were involved in a plot to 'engineer' a fake alien threat because of a real alien threat that nobody knew about, but you do
- Now let's say you back a prominent politician who's right in the frame to become fed pres, and who's a bit of a 'hawk' when it comes to arming and fighting
- You stage an attack on SS1 and ensure that the current president survives, but you don't rescue her because you want to replace her
- when she is rescued, either she witnessed something weird (alien-like - but completely staged by you), or you 'train her' somehow, whilst in her coma, to start talking about weird alien-like things.
- Who better to validate the claim of dangerous aliens/threats than the former, very popular, peace loving president when she comes around?
Just thinking... We never really did reach a satisfactory explanation for: UA Morse, or the early 'top-secret' UA convoys either saying they were told 'not to ask' what they were carrying.
For me, I'm still distinctly uneasy about assuming a wholly extraterrestrial source for both the Barnies and the UAs, or at least the UAs.
TinFoil off
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I *think* the explanation was that the self-repair mechanism was firing errantly, I.e. that the UAs don't appear to need to repair, but they do anyway because they're in the presence of substances they can use to repair.
I think that's what was suggested on Galnet anyway.
That is an... AMAZING theory, need some weapons grade tinfoil for that!
Rho Cas may well have gone supernova by now. No one has been closer than a couple of hundred ly. That would be a nasty surprise when you jump in.
Edit: Computer models of molecular (remember 'changes at a molecular level') dynamics, that particles in a plasma can undergo self-organization as electronic charges become separated and the plasma becomes polarized. This effect results in microscopic strands of solid particles that twist into corkscrew shapes, or helical structures. These helical strands are themselves electronically charged and are attracted to each other.
The modelling have been done on 'complex mixtures of inorganic materials in a plasma'. I think these complex mixtures of inorganic plasma molecules are more abundant after a supernova.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/08/070814150630.htm
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Ahh can't rep. Have some psychic rep instead...
About to concentrate really hard...
Hnnnnnnnn....
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Cheers! That Starbuck/Watchtower thing was cool yeah - thanks for reminding me of that.
About to concentrate really hard...
Hnnnnnnnn....
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Cheers! That Starbuck/Watchtower thing was cool yeah - thanks for reminding me of that.
Has anyone tried scanning a UA with a wake scanner? Both pre and post explosion
Well, Mintaka (according to the Wikipedia) has 2 bright stars as components A & B, but in game the B component is a black hole...
Here's my two penny's worth bare with me...
I'm going to assume the ua's and barnacles ARE related and part of the same system and I am going to assume that they ARE Thargoid in origin mainly because their architecture seems to fit the descriptions of thargoid techno-organic technology. I can't see frontier introducing a second alien species of the same characteristics before exploring other possibilities of alien life but i might be wrong.
I am going to also assume that the mycoid virus has left the Thargoid race stranded, disconnected and scattered throughout space (was their a cure?). As a race who has an innate affinity with space I imagine they a little salty about that little inconvenience we hoisted upon them.
Now the Ua's create a condition (so called 'self repair') that is mitigated by the meta-alloy's and they point to the only region of space where barnacles are currently known to exist.
The meta alloy's look like fruiting bodies as has been observed, and fruiting bodies are intended by nature to be harvested in order to seed the surrounding environment.
So perhaps the ua shell is acting like the cirri of the barnicles only in this case the 'plankton' are our ships passing through. It will be interesting to see if the UA behaviour changes once we are transporting them in cargo racks made from meta alloys as i feel feel these are food for the ua's as Kerrash speculated in a feed recently. What do caterpillars do when they have had their fill? they pupate. Will UA's 'Pupate' in the hold of space faring ships with frame shift drives?... do you see where i'm going with this? They have an interest in our ships they are drawing them with binary code, somethig we as hosts can observe and become interested in.
Long and short if it, This might be a way thargoids can become a space faring race again... sorry it's so disjointed.
I'm going to assume the ua's and barnacles ARE related and part of the same system and I am going to assume that they ARE Thargoid in origin mainly because their architecture seems to fit the descriptions of thargoid techno-organic technology. I can't see frontier introducing a second alien species of the same characteristics before exploring other possibilities of alien life but i might be wrong.
I am going to also assume that the mycoid virus has left the Thargoid race stranded, disconnected and scattered throughout space (was their a cure?). As a race who has an innate affinity with space I imagine they a little salty about that little inconvenience we hoisted upon them.
Now the Ua's create a condition (so called 'self repair') that is mitigated by the meta-alloy's and they point to the only region of space where barnacles are currently known to exist.
The meta alloy's look like fruiting bodies as has been observed, and fruiting bodies are intended by nature to be harvested in order to seed the surrounding environment.
So perhaps the ua shell is acting like the cirri of the barnicles only in this case the 'plankton' are our ships passing through. It will be interesting to see if the UA behaviour changes once we are transporting them in cargo racks made from meta alloys as i feel feel these are food for the ua's as Kerrash speculated in a feed recently. What do caterpillars do when they have had their fill? they pupate. Will UA's 'Pupate' in the hold of space faring ships with frame shift drives?... do you see where i'm going with this? They have an interest in our ships they are drawing them with binary code, somethig we as hosts can observe and become interested in.
Long and short if it, This might be a way thargoids can become a space faring race again... sorry it's so disjointed.
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