Powerplay Powerplay - left of political spectrum option

[the100thmonkey]

Although Antal is authoritarian, his actual goal is a good one, the betterment of mankind through technology and self discipline (which is reflected in his perks and bonuses, when they work). Utopia is like a very strict monastic organization that is open with what it does according to lore. Its peaceful, but don't break the rules.

I mean, what other power bans all socially destructive drugs and all forms of slavery?

Ultimately, "power" in the sense being discussed here doesn't exist in a communist society. As for the drugs, Antal's sims are arguably more damaging (although the question remains about the role of drugs in society, especially given that addiction is more a social phenomenon than a pharmacological one.)

Resist the propaganda, comrade. Join us in liberating the galaxy.

 

[Ben Ryder]

Resist the propaganda, comrade. Join us in liberating the galaxy.

oxymoron


I think you need to get more aquainted with Antal and the players instead of throwing out opinions and incorrect information.

Pop by and have some tea.

Have a flyer.
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[Rubbernuke]

Ultimately, "power" in the sense being discussed here doesn't exist in a communist society. As for the drugs, Antal's sims are arguably more damaging (although the question remains about the role of drugs in society, especially given that addiction is more a social phenomenon than a pharmacological one.)

Resist the propaganda, comrade. Join us in liberating the galaxy.

If you interpret them that way. For example, Sim technology gives Utopians an 'afterlife' of sorts: in the Sim Library on Antal the experiences, thoughts and personalities are stored so that people can learn from them. Each year this and events are uploaded, so no knowledge is lost. I'd agree sims could cause problems, but with proper use I think they would be a benefit to free humans from the fear of death.

So, no slavery, no social problems through drink or drugs, a way to live beyond death, available to all Utopians.

And a power structure will always exist in some shape or form. Only through strict discipline could communism work as human nature would eventually become corrupted. What power extols self discipline and law? Utopia does- to the extent our fines and bounties we incur doing bad things are doubled.

We should join forces, it would be truly Paraside for all.

 

[Ben Ryder]

We should join forces, it would be truly Paraside for all.

Here here! Couldnt agree more

 

[Roybe]

Let us not forget that anarchy is the extreme of leftist ideology.

 

[Ben Ryder]

Let us not forget that anarchy is the extreme of leftist ideology.

Good point. I think it's s shame that a lot of people think that Anarchism means running around doing as you please and smashing stuff up because Anarchism has been painted that way since the 50s / 60s by the capitalist media and the idea of chaos and wanton violence is often what springs to peoples mind when they read the word Anarachist, rather than ideas of individual responsibility and positive social action.

 

[Yukon Sam]

Felicia Winters is head of the Federation Liberal Party, somewhat left of center. She doesn't seem interested in dismantling the corporate power structure, but it does seem she'd like to squeeze it a little harder on behalf of the people.

 

[the100thmonkey]

Felicia Winters is head of the Federation Liberal Party, somewhat left of center. She doesn't seem interested in dismantling the corporate power structure, but it does seem she'd like to squeeze it a little harder on behalf of the people.

That's not left of centre at all, comrade; just left of extreme right.

 

[Para Handy]

Good point. I think it's s shame that a lot of people think that Anarchism means running around doing as you please and smashing stuff up because Anarchism has been painted that way since the 50s / 60s by the capitalist media and the idea of chaos and wanton violence is often what springs to peoples mind when they read the word Anarachist, rather than ideas of individual responsibility and positive social action.

My teens were wrapped in red flags and black and red banners - both ideologies that are grossly maligned in the capitalist world we live in.

 

[JeffRyan]

As Ben says we don't go as far in eliminating slavery in all our systems (just the control systems I believe) Aisling is the 'left' Imperial.

 

[Halfoat]

Interesting stuff, thanks people.

Its a shame there isn't a Communist 'character' and major faction in the current powerplay, I think it would be very interesting giving opportunity for ideals that on the whole are for the 'good' of all but then there are some dark dealings at the top as human nature shows itself within the leaders!

Perhaps some interesting advancements and paths which on the face of it are not about simply ranking up and 'bettering yourself above and against your comrades' so to speak but are marketed as raising everyone to a more powerful 'equal' footing

Anyway I waffle, I'll check out the Communism Interstellar.

 

[Ben Ryder]

As Ben says we don't go as far in eliminating slavery in all our systems (just the control systems I believe) Aisling is the 'left' Imperial.

Brilliant. I think that, at least from my understanding, is perhaps the most concise description.

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Interesting stuff, thanks people.

Its a shame there isn't a Communist 'character' and major faction in the current powerplay, I think it would be very interesting giving opportunity for ideals that on the whole are for the 'good' of all but then there are some dark dealings at the top as human nature shows itself within the leaders!

Perhaps some interesting advancements and paths which on the face of it are not about simply ranking up and 'bettering yourself above and against your comrades' so to speak but are marketed as raising everyone to a more powerful 'equal' footing

Anyway I waffle, I'll check out the Communism Interstellar.

I wish they were a power in their own right and not muddled up in the capitalist corporate shenanigans of Mahon. See Mahon isnt the Alliance, he's just part of it and he's the Capitalist Cult bit.

 

[JeffRyan]

I wish they were a power in their own right and not muddled up in the capitalist corporate shenanigans of Mahon. See Mahon isnt the Alliance, he's just part of it and he's the Capitalist Cult bit.

I'd hoped the president of lave had been a second Alliance power.

 

[DNA-Decay]

Hi,

I'd like to see what Powerplay is like, but the three major factions seem to be: An empire, a middle democracy and a corporate setup. I'd ideally life to join a 'socialist' or communist faction . Is my understanding of the major factions correct and there is no representation of the political left?

Thanks.

Mahon

There's power in the factories.
And power in the land.
And power in the hands of the workers.
But it all amounts to nothing,
If we don't take a stand.
There is power in the Alliance!

Oh Alliance forever!
Defending our rights!
Down with the blacklegs,
The workers unite.
There is power in the Alliance.


Now I long for the morning.
When they come to realise.
Brutality and unjust laws cannot defeat us.
But who'll defend the workers
who cannot organise.
When the bosses send their lackeys out to cheat us?

There is power in the Alliance.

(with apologies to Billy Bragg)

 

[CMDR_Vyse]

Edmund Mahon is Libertarian, in American political terminology. He appears to favor independence from vast centralized government and is focused on trade and benefitting everyone within his sphere of influence.

Maybe it's because I'm American, but Winters looks like a lefty to me.

Antal strikes me as a strange mixture of fortune faith preaching and Hipster style technology devotion. It comes off like the villain from the Cowboy Bebop episode "Brain Scratch".

Aisling is...Aisling. She almost seems to govern by whim.

The Kumo Crew is the space version of the Los Zetas cartel.

The rest aren't left. I don't think Li Yong-Rui is one you can put on a political spectrum as his whole bit appears to be more about commerce than anything.

 

[Tataboj]

Winters is definitely right. She is meant to be from the Democratic Party, I think.

 

[SCSkunk]

Winters is definitely right. She is meant to be from the Democratic Party, I think.

In American politics, Democratic Party is generally left.

 

[Apos]

In American politics, Democratic Party is generally left.

But ages of propaganda against the left has really made the US a bit...unreliable on deciding what is left and right though. Although that has been slowly getting remedied within the latest generations.

Since both parties promote absolute economic liberty, they are both right wing in heart. And as long as the democratic party has economic liberty above social liberty, it will remain so.

After all, Mahon would be called a commie in the US. [haha]

 

[Saool]

In American politics, Democratic Party is generally left.

I'm not American, but I always took it the the Democratic Party (and Winters) was right wing, and the Republican Party (and Hudson) where even more right wing (bordering on anti-freedom).

 

[Para Handy]

In American politics, Democratic Party is generally left.

Democratic party is only left in comparison to the Republicans.

Unfortunately the situation in the US is so skewed that socialism is viewed as being un-American and so by inference an evil to be avoided. When you consider that the International Workers Day (MAY DAY) commemorates police murders of worker's union demonstrators in Chicago on 1 May 1886 it is a sad reflection that even when the US finally decided to have a "Labor Day" it had to be in September.