Played 200+ hours...Lost everything...Was partly fun but now it's over

[dangerousbeans]

Bored? I get very bored with ED, go play something FPS + Zombies. Dying Light, buy that, quick to lvl up and the new DLC is amazing - and free. Then do what I do, play Elite D one or two hour sessions for one or two days a week. Stops it being a massive time consuming (and pointless grind)

I now enjoy ED, played it every evening for 3 months got no where fast. I login to do CG's, bit of bounty hunting, keep lvl 4 of powerplay + if I FIND a mission worth it, I do it + I go for a scoot in the SRV etc

 

[Newbie2]

Even weirder is that usually, as in this OP, the poster starts by saying 'he doesnt care', then goes into detail about how he cares very much, and then rapidly shift gear into 'but this game stupid anyway'. These posts generally read the same way a teenager describes his break-up.

"So I was drunk yesterday and by accident set the dog of my girlfriend on fire. She told me she never wants to see me again but I dont care lol. My life is so miserable now I cant stop crying. But she's stupid anyway, who cares about girls, right?"

Where did I say I didn't care?...I care about this genre a lot.Where did I say this game is stupid anyways?

 

[bitstorm]

I think elite is a game for people who do not need purpose in a game,and I am a person that needs goals to fulfill.Something to drive me.Missions to complete...Meaningful missions.I need to invest myself into the characters...The factions...I need to feel emotionally tied to what i am doing...

Why can't elite have both...Allow you to wander aimlessly through space and do whatever you are doing now and have a mission driven section..."A planet is under attack and the civilians need your assistance to defend their planet" ect?.Regardless this game has so much potential waiting to be released...Akin to Goku going supersayan...Its going to be amazing when that happens...

I think fundamentally ED is a simulation game, you're "being" a space pilot and that's where the enjoyment arises. The Elite's have always been that way.

With the go and save a planet thing, I mean ultimately that'd just boil down to more combat wouldn't it? And so the exact same complaints could be levelled.

For me this is why I'm not anti-PvP like a lot of folk seem to be, and try to avoid the "being attacked by a player is automatically a bad thing" attitude. I think player engagement (in one form or another) is where the real original unexpected gameplay can happen (it does not have to be direct PvP combat). I feel ED should be evolving to support, push and facilitate all manner of player/player gameplay. Unfortunately easy-mode drop to solo/pg and the wonders of the shared BGS hinder that from being what it could be, I suspect a lot of people feel similarly hence all the recent threads.

 

[frostypaw]

I feel your pain OP but you have made a rod for your own back to some extent.

200hrs is NOTHING to be flying a Python. The problem with grinding is you do the same boring things and gain money or 'XP' or whatever but no skill, no experience. In Elite there's no new power-up button combo that'll work afterwards so you can wear yourself out silly and easily buy something you aren't really ready to fly and then pancake it without the rebuy - because you'd gotten so bored grinding away you rushed...

But you were already rushing anyway.

Fair play though it's a horrible way to lose it and learn it - but when you've had a break and got refreshed come back and take your time and smell the roses. EARN that Python. You can do it for real not just doing some lucrative repeat task but through an epic story of whatever takes your fancy but it had better involve space I guess. There's so many things to do - the guy saying SRVs are no fun needs to look online at the variety of ground missions there are.

I have no idea what to say to the guy who wants the whole galaxy plus a full farming/SIMS/SimCity on every planet - a moon on a stick seems inappropriate. I think some people just want a different game - it's not higher expectations it's flights of fancy. Think about the problems all those games have, all their bugs then imagine trying to program versions of those to generate thousands on thousands of NPC run worlds that all have to work and make sense even if you don't log in for months or years - think about what you're asking for. Or go sign up with SC, you can go shopping for clothes there soon apparently.

 

[Steve50]

Plays for 200hrs+ and doesn't know to keep credits for the insurance.. *facepalm*

 

[Tony.W]

I can understand your frustration!
I too tried too hard in my early game to get the bigger and better ships and I also risked all to achieve that. Some times it payed off but a couple of times it didn't I learned and got better.

There are a lot of people that will tell you that there is depth in this game BUT unlike most games YOU have to find it. I have recently 'adopted' a system faction and I am now playing the Background Sim to see if I can improve them. This has kept the game 'fresh' for me.

You say about Elite not being an MMO! have you joined any of the player groups? There are many out there just waiting for you to join in. Sometimes the most grindy of actions suddenly become fun when your flying in a wing. You said your friends tried the game but did they wing up whilst trying it? Perhaps if they had then they would have found it less boring.

There is a lot to do in this game but you wont find any instructions or sign posts to them you have to 'Blaze your own trail'

If you still feel the need for a break then do that but try to realize there is so much more to this game than pure grind. I have big ships in my fleet and still spend most of my time in either the Asp or FDL, which means I didn't really need to grind for the big ships but I am glad I did.

Just my thoughts, anyway fly safe in whatever you decide to do.

Peace out!

 

[Newbie2]

Plays for 200hrs+ and doesn't know to keep credits for the insurance.. *facepalm*

You know I really wanted to blast you for completely missing the point.Then I realized that I will probably see a thousand more people like you and need to deal with it and grow a shell...

 

[terrycloth]

Plays for 200hrs+ and doesn't know to keep credits for the insurance.. *facepalm*

In most software, the possibility of losing 200 hours of progress would be a show-stopper bug that would delay shipping. Here, it's somehow a feature.

 

[Newbie2]

I can understand your frustration!
I too tried too hard in my early game to get the bigger and better ships and I also risked all to achieve that. Some times it payed off but a couple of times it didn't I learned and got better.

There are a lot of people that will tell you that there is depth in this game BUT unlike most games YOU have to find it. I have recently 'adopted' a system faction and I am now playing the Background Sim to see if I can improve them. This has kept the game 'fresh' for me.

You say about Elite not being an MMO! have you joined any of the player groups? There are many out there just waiting for you to join in. Sometimes the most grindy of actions suddenly become fun when your flying in a wing. You said your friends tried the game but did they wing up whilst trying it? Perhaps if they had then they would have found it less boring.

There is a lot to do in this game but you wont find any instructions or sign posts to them you have to 'Blaze your own trail'

If you still feel the need for a break then do that but try to realize there is so much more to this game than pure grind. I have big ships in my fleet and still spend most of my time in either the Asp or FDL, which means I didn't really need to grind for the big ships but I am glad I did.

Just my thoughts, anyway fly safe in whatever you decide to do.

Peace out!

I never said my friends tried it??

Guys please help I am a total noob with threads did I crosslink a thread or something because so many people seems to be qouting from who knows where?

Anyways nice post btw.You know I really didn't try and join any groups for pvp or anything like that Maybe I will join a group and see if it improves?

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In most software, the possibility of losing 200 hours of progress would be a show-stopper bug that would delay shipping. Here, it's somehow a feature.

Sigh...Guys honestly the losing of the progress isn't the issue here...But anyways I can see when the point is completely being missed...Is it also a feuture just to take whatever a person said and turn it into completely something else?Where exactly in my post am I complaining about losing everything please point it out??...

 

[Chris Simon]

You know I really wanted to blast you for completely missing the point.Then I realized that I will probably see a thousand more people like you and need to deal with it and grow a shell...

You know that goodbye posts are technically against rules? Be glad that yours is so well written and has several good points.

Also (and this is more general than aimed at OP), one thing I see repeatedly in threads like these is opulent amounts of the word "grind". And since you seem to be of the kind, as well, I would like to point out that Elite, unlike basically every other game out there, doesn't force you to grind. You can enjoy all the features and everything this game offers from the start. But grinding for things is so strongly burned into habits of most gamers that they just can't help themselves. It's a shame. They don't have fun. And end like this.

In most software, the possibility of losing 200 hours of progress would be a show-stopper bug that would delay shipping. Here, it's somehow a feature.

ehm, ehm. You don't lose any progress. You just lose a bit of money!

 

[Tony.W]

Sorry I got two posts mixed up My bad.

PvP is not the only reason to join a group. There are many groups out there doing all sorts of things within the game. Just find one that suits your play style and have more fun!

Peace out

 

[frostypaw]

In most software, the possibility of losing 200 hours of progress would be a show-stopper bug that would delay shipping. Here, it's somehow a feature.

Noone lost a single second of progress - he made AMAZING progress - he just lost a lot of credits in the process of learning a lesson the harsh way.

Far better to make these mistakes in a cheaper ship. The game never forced him into that situation, nor will it not let him work his way out of it - but he's now much wiser.

 

[Newbie2]

You know that goodbye posts are technically against rules? Be glad that yours is so well written and has several good points.

Also (and this is more general than aimed at OP), one thing I see repeatedly in threads like these is opulent amounts of the word "grind". And since you seem to be of the kind, as well, I would like to point out that Elite, unlike basically every other game out there, doesn't force you to grind. You can enjoy all the features and everything this game offers from the start. But grinding for things is so strongly burned into habits of most gamers that they just can't help themselves. It's a shame. They don't have fun. And end like this.

Exactly this

Not enough rep in the world for this and yes I am definately a "grinding" person...I NEED to have the best gear the best ship exactly this and I know for exactly this reason also I will never get the *full* enjoyment out of elite also

I didn't know its against the rules...:-(.

 

[sqzbox1]

I am a person that needs goals to fulfill

There's the main reason why you feel dissatisfied right there. I understand a lot of what you say - that momentary lapse of control that led to losing your python - we've all done that on occasion I think (I know I have) - but sadly this time you got bit. And it seems you know that. But Elite isn't one of those story-based games where you play through an interesting series of events/experiences and end up in an end-game. Elite doesn't do that. There is no end game - and that is the whole point of it. It is an "experiential" game - it is the EXPERIENCE that IS the game - that is the point of the game. I make my own goals and I set them up such that it never feels grindy.

My latest goal was to rank up in the Fed Navy - hadn't been doing Fed stuff for months. Before that I think I focussed on a CG, and before that working for the Cutter. I've never allowed myself to grind. I just have fun flying my ship and "getting gud" as somebody said somewhere. That's what I love doing and no sign of boredom for me since alpha. Really, there is no end of things to do, to get good at, skills to master. But it does take some effort - and again, that is what I like.

Plainly it seems that what I like is not what you like - and that is fine of course. Each to his own, as they say. Take a break, go play something that suits you more for a while and I bet you come back at some point!

 

[Newbie2]

Sorry I got two posts mixed up My bad.

PvP is not the only reason to join a group. There are many groups out there doing all sorts of things within the game. Just find one that suits your play style and have more fun!

Peace out

Sorry my bad and I apologize,the frustration comes with so many people are stuck on me losing my python where that is like literally the least of my worries.I wish I could take that out of my post because
everyone fixates so on that that they are missing the more important issues....:-(...I should've written that post better...

 

[Turlorn]

The danger of Elite is that people who only grind burn out pretty quickly. Elite is more about the immersion of being a space pilot.
As Yahtzee points out in his video, "weird people" who enjoy playing Euro Truck Simulator (like me), will also love Elite.

The depth most people are looking for can be found in the BGS (and joining a player group).
I've made it a habit of mine to point burnt out grinders to the BGS in the hope that they will regain their joy in Elite.
Admittedly the workings of the BGS are hard to grasp at first. But new players that are interested in the BGS might find some guidance in the Alliance Fringe Development Programme where we try to spread Alliance factions in the fringe systems of the bubble. Everyone who is interested can drop in and out as he pleases.

At least for me, this is highly captivating.

 

[Newbie2]

BTW why is goodbye posts against the rules?to avoid grudge threads?

 

[frostypaw]

Exactly this

Not enough rep in the world for this and yes I am definately a "grinding" person...I NEED to have the best gear the best ship exactly this and I know for exactly this reason also I will never get the *full* enjoyment out of elite also

I didn't know its against the rules...:-(.

But a Cobra is cheap?

Far from against the rules it's a perfectly valid choice - but this is your fantasy do you really want to be "CMDR Newbie2 - an illustrious career ploughing the same trade route for thousands of hours, space trucker extraordinaire, now with Orca" or how about "CMDR Newbie2 - flying by the seat of his pants trough a hail of bullets to complete every mission, hunting the aliens and seeing the far corners of the galaxy and saving the empire from invasion" - I know which would be my preference.

No rules as such, just choices

 

[tarragon]

I feel for you. I hope upcoming bobbleheads will fix it. At least devs certainly think so.

 

[Newbie2]

But a Cobra is cheap?

Far from against the rules it's a perfectly valid choice - but this is your fantasy do you really want to be "CMDR Newbie2 - an illustrious career ploughing the same trade route for thousands of hours, space trucker extraordinaire, now with Orca" or how about "CMDR Newbie2 - flying by the seat of his pants trough a hail of bullets to complete every mission, hunting the aliens and seeing the far corners of the galaxy and saving the empire from invasion" - I know which would be my preference.

No rules as such, just choices

*Slow Clap...* That actually made me want to fire up the game again!