Well, I gave it a good go...Honest!

I recently got back from the DW trip.. I didn't make it past the core but was out exploring for quite some time. All I got was about 33 mil from the trip :( Its not exactly a great way to make credits.

This is why I love exploration so much. It gives me something much better than money: a sense of accomplishment. Tagging an undiscovered system, or even better, tagging an undiscovered earth-like world with your CMDR name gives me way more than some simple credit check. My first real trip got me 18 mil credits but I tagged 2 undiscovered ELW and a few water worlds. I got back in one piece with the hull at 100% while flying shieldless. Next time I hope I can go to Sagittarius A and just go from there. Load up some psychill or psybient and just go. Yeah I'm an explorer!
 
I know how you feel OP. I've aimed to go to SAG A not less than 4 times. The furthest I've got is the lagoon nebula.

The thing I find interesting is that this seems to boil down to 2 mentalities.

1. "Exploring is dull, so I stopped and did something else"

2. "Exploring is dull, but I persevere for the satisfaction/moments of great beauty."

No one I've seen claims that it isn't dull however! Just some people think it's worth it.
 
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I know how you feel OP. I've aimed to go to SAG A not less than 4 times. The furthest I've got is the lagoon nebula.

The thing I find interesting is that this seems to boil down to 2 mentalities.

1. "Exploring is dull, so I stopped and did something else"

2. "Exploring is dull, but I persevere for the satisfaction/moments of great beauty."

No one I've seen claims that it isn't dull however! Just some people think it's worth it.

I've seen those mentalities. But for me I get to do the one thing I love about ED: fly. I get to fly all the time. No docking, no interdictions, no tedious tasks except honk but I'm doing that while fuel scooping anyway so it's only a bonus. If I find a system I find interesting enough, I scan the planets in it. If I find an interesting planet I could land on, I land on it, just for the sense of me being the first to land on it.
Of course I get tired of the complete lack of variety, but I'm usually not playing more than a few hours every month or so.
 

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The thing I find interesting is that this seems to boil down to 2 mentalities.

1. "Trading is dull, so I stopped and did something else"

2. "Trading is dull, but I persevere for the satisfaction/moments of great numbers of credits."

No one I've seen claims that it isn't dull however! Just some people think it's worth it.
 
I don't intend to do any exploration until they add more astronomical objects, better in-game tools and just generally more exploration-centric gameplay. So maybe season 5 then if we're lucky. But then I see some of the wonderful screenshots and get tempted...

You're just weak OP, plow through the boredom until every star merges into one. Look over the fact that when you get to Sag*A it looks exactly like a giant puckered bum hole floating in space mocking the sacrifice that you have made to see it. Cry into your beer at the thought of the return journey where all you have to look forward to is constant interdiction's by inane NPC's demanding cargo that doesn't exist. Take solice in the fact that they lack the dedication you have and long to see the majestic space bum hole.

I hope you don't work in sales ;) If that didn't put anyone off exploring nothing will :)
 
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Exploration, on the face of it, does seem extremely dull.. but, currently giving it a go and am honestly surprised by how much I enjoy it..

As many have said it's not for everyone, as is the case with other career paths.. personally I find trading extremely dull..

But this is something that is often overlooked with ED imo..

It is a game that caters for different game styles, each career path may not be enjoyable to all, but generally it has something for everyone :)
 
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I'm kind of stuck in between, I love the thought of exploring and finding new stuff but on my few week long journeys out into the black I was itching to return to the bubble after a few days.

I really wanted to see the neutron fields and find my own earth like and maybe one day I will but I just find the exploration mechanics to be so shallow and uninspiring that I can't bring myself to explore for more than a few days which is not enough to really get out to the interesting stuff.

We live in hope that ED will show exploration some love in coming updates but as far as I know, other than the gal map upgrades which are great there is no mention of touching the exploration mechanics/gameplay (if you can call it gameplay)
 
Why are you opening the system map for each body? Just select the next unexplored in your nav panel.

^This^
And there's no need to scan everything. If there are less than a handful of objects in a system, jump to the next one.
If there are way more Honk-discovered bodies than you see on your scanner, jump to the next system.
Pick a waypoint on your way back - Nebula, cluster, etc - honk-scoop-jump there then wander around a bit, looking at the shiny.
It's not for everyone, but there are ways to make it less boring, or even more interesting.
 
I started playing about three weeks ago and was totally lost. I am now 31kly away from the bubble and feel right at home.

The moment I opened the Galaxy Map and zoomed out for the first time I knew what I wanted to do in the game: Go out there. So I searched the forums and youtube for some exploration guides and tips on how to get started and equip a ship capable of exploration, and was totally inspired by some of the information, videos and threads I had found: the fact that you could tag systems and planets if you first discovered them, awesome screenshots, pioneers who first made it to the other side of the Galaxy, the Distant Worlds expedition etc.

So I spent my first week in the game earning credits by doing BB missions in my Sidewinder to earn me a Cobra Mk. III, which I then used for some rare trading and bounty hunting. Once I had the credits I outfitted my Cobra for exploration and went on my first short range expedition to the Pleiades nebula. I wanted to know if exploration really was something for me before committing to a longer trip. It was awesome. Approaching the nebula, seing all the different kinds of systems out there, taking beautiful screenshots and even getting some first discoveries on the way. But I wanted to go further, where only very few people had been before, so I returned to the bubble, sold my data for a million credits or so, improved my ship and immediatley left again for NGC 7822. The trip there and back took me a few days and I realised that in order to enjoy exploration I had to mix it up a bit: Take my time to explore some interesting systems thoroughly, take screenshots and enjoy the vastness of space, and just honk and scoop to see how fast I could go. I set myself goals like doing the honk and scoop as efficiently as possible and to stop doing that as soon as it started to feel like a grind.

So when I turned in my data for about 10 million CR this time I had enough to buy an Asp Explorer. I did some more rares trading until I could afford the best FSD and a 6C fuel scoop and off I went core-wards with the intention to not turn around before I'd reach Beagle Point. I'm almost half way there, visited the Great Annihilator and Sag A*, have first discovered ELWs, ringed Water and Ammonia Worlds, Neutron Stars, White Dwarfs, Black Holes, systems with all kinds of interesting constellations and taken some wonderful screenshots. The parts when I'm just honking and scooping I perceive as relaxing, not grinding. Sometimes I have to force myself to refrain from too much detailed scanning, because tagging all these interesting undiscovered worlds is so tempting but would take centuries. I enjoy the feeling of being out there, alone, a long long way of unknown space ahead as well as behind, knowing it will take me weeks, maybe months before I'll be back in the bubble again.

It can be dull, just as hours of trading, mining, bounty hunting, Power Play or whatever activity in game as well as real life can be dull. But I enjoy exploration immensely.



Please excuse my less than stellar English.
 
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No one I've seen claims that it isn't dull however! Just some people think it's worth it.

I'd disagree, I enjoy space trucking (long haul & short haul), I don't even do it for the credits. At the moment i'm just running Elite surface haulage missions around the old I Bootis,Aulin,Eranin cluster.

It's anything but dull to me, with the right setup it is incredibly immersive, beautiful scenery and some challenging approaches to ports like Shriver in the Ovid system, money is just a bonus.

Same deal with exploration, immersion from a good setup solves 80% of the problem with boredom, the rest is down to setting an objective. I'll study a region of the galaxy online, then head out there in ED to explore, couldn't care less about credits or explorer rank. Jump scan/Jump/Scan aimlessly is a fast track to boredom.
 
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I started playing about three weeks ago and was totally lost. I am now 31kly away from the bubble and feel right at home.

The moment I opened the Galaxy Map and zoomed out for the first time I knew what I wanted to do in the game: Go out there. So I searched the forums and youtube for some exploration guides and tips on how to get started and equip a ship capable of exploration, and was totally inspired by some of the information, videos and threads I had found: the fact that you could tag systems and planets if you first discovered them, awesome screenshots, pioneers who first made it to the other side of the Galaxy, the Distant Worlds expedition etc.

So I spent my first week in the game earning credits by doing BB missions in my Sidewinder to earn me a Cobra Mk. III, which I then used for some rare trading and bounty hunting. Once I had the credits I outfitted my Cobra for exploration and went on my first short range expedition to the Pleiades nebula. I wanted to know if exploration really was something for me before committing to a longer trip. It was awesome. Approaching the nebula, seing all the different kinds of systems out there, taking beautiful screenshots and even getting some first discoveries on the way. But I wanted to go further, where only very few people had been before, so I returned to the bubble, sold my data for a million credits or so, improved my ship and immediatley left again for NGC 7822. The trip there and back took me a few days and I realised that in order to enjoy exploration I had to mix it up a bit: Take my time to explore some interesting systems thoroughly, take screenshots and enjoy the vastness of space, and just honk and scoop to see how fast I could go. I set myself goals like doing the honk and scoop as efficiently as possible and to stop doing that as soon as it started to feel like a grind.

So when I turned in my data for about 10 million CR this time I had enough to buy an Asp Explorer. I did some more rares trading until I could afford the best FSD and a 6C fuel scoop and off I went core-wards with the intention to not turn around before I'd reach Beagle Point. I'm almost half way there, visited the Great Annihilator and Sag A*, have first discovered ELWs, ringed Water and Ammonia Worlds, Neutron Stars, White Dwarfs, Black Holes, systems with all kinds of interesting constellations and taken some wonderful screenshots. The parts when I'm just honking and scooping I perceive as relaxing, not grinding. Sometimes I have to force myself to refrain from too much detailed scanning, because tagging all these interesting undiscovered worlds is so tempting but would take centuries. I enjoy the feeling of being out there, alone, a long long way of unknown space ahead as well as behind, knowing it will take me weeks, maybe months before I'll be back in the bubble again.

It can be dull, just as hours of trading, mining, bounty hunting, Power Play or whatever activity in game as well as real life can be dull. But I enjoy exploration immensely.



Please excuse my less than stellar English.

Nothing wrong with your English.. said it better than I could :)
 
at first i found exploring quite therapeutic and some what soothing, after a couple of hundred thousand light years i just wanted to commit suicide! it's definitely missing variable content to say the very least. i'm glad i'm done with exploration, as it is at the moment, to be honest.
 
I do like the idea of exploring and I feel drawn to the void. However I suffer from lack of patience. So when I was going to the core I saw some neat CG and came back halfway... Yep.
I do get you though, its very dull sometimes, and others kind of rewarding.

Since I still want to fill my exploration rank, I do small trips here and there, no more than 2k light years. So, it keeps me interested and can return whenever I like and do something else. But I know I am not made for 30.000 light years trip.
And you are correct, each its own.
 
Each to their own, exploring just makes me so, so depressed. It clearly is not for me at all.
That's about it. All aspects of E: D apply to that saying.

Gives you even more respect for people like Eramus and Nutter who headed out into the black on version 1.0 before all the enhancements and fixes.

I'm 15K out and after a year I'm still enthralled by what I'm seeing. Parts of the transit are tedious, but I am a little OCD so it works for me. Hours of boredom followed by seconds of sheer wonder / terror is how I'd categorize exploration.
 
I am referring to exploring.

I have only travelled over 10K LY from my home system inwards towards the "light".
Each 1K is about 33 jumps so that's a fair few.
So, that's Jump - Stop - Honk - Look - Select - Fly - WAIT 4 Ever for Detail scan - Next body etc. etc. ad-nausea.
Did I miss a meeting? Is there a "Select next Major Body/Sub-Body in current system key binding like there is for next ship, previous ship etc?
Waiting for the fricking System map to open for each of 42 system bodies is a total wast of time/life.

BORING BORING BORING BORING

Hoping to get back to base OK, sell this Exploraconda and just never, ever, ever, ever bother with exploring again.

I will save some rusty pins to push into my eyeballs as a punishment should I ever consider wasting my leisure time on this awful, awful aspect of ED.

Each to their own, exploring just makes me so, so depressed. It clearly is not for me at all.

Explore safe Commanders.

LOL!! That's EXACTLY how I am with trading (generally) :)
 
Since I still want to fill my exploration rank, I do small trips here and there, no more than 2k light years.

i dread to think how long it will take you doing it that way! i just bit the bullet and a couple of massive trips, with lots of neutron farming along the way!
 
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