The pain of starting over or... a second pilot slot?

[Ceo]

You could do a self-imposed 'reset'. Invest all your liquid assets in ships and modules until you're down to around a thousand credits, then buy a Sidewinder and store your current ship, then go kiss the station at maximum boost and choose to respawn in a free Sidewinder at one of the default starting locations. You'll still have your ranks, faction statuses and Power allegiance if any, but otherwise you'll be in the same position as a new player.

Set yourself one or more goals, whether it be raw credits, upgrading to a particular ship, or gaining a certain military rank. Until you achieve that goal, you choose not to touch any of your stored assets.

This is an interesting idea, similar to what a friend suggested. I think it may be what I do come 2.1.

Thanks for the suggestions all, I'd still love an extra pilot slot. I may also end up just buying another account I guess, I get all the expansions for my first on included, so I guess it it wont hurt to pay once for another.

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If you decide to do this I have a tune for those painful times ahead...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhlJZdQDz5E

Hahahaha +1

 

[Mengy]

I don't understand why people clear the save, just do something different?

This is how I handle it. Sometimes I'll put the Asp or the Clipper away and go out mining in a Hauler. You know, just for the fun of it. I don't care if I'm not making max credits per hour possible, that's never really my goal with Elite. Or I'll take an Eagle to go bounty hunting instead of my Vulture. Sure the Vulture would be a better and easier choice but variety spices things up now and then. The smaller ships are fun to fly IMHO. And honestly you don't need to reset your commander to do that, just pick a beginner ship and fly it about with crappy modules, and have fun! They are cheap to replace when they go boom!

I think too many people are too concerned with always making the max amount of progress per hour that they can, that's just not how I play the game. I'm out exploring the far side of the galaxy right now in my Asp and there are times where I'll just zoom around canyons on planet surfaces, or go out for a scenic drive in my SRV on a rocky ice world orbiting way too close to an O star. None of it pays jack squat, but I'm enjoying myself, so who cares?

I suppose some people like forcing themselves to do it by clearing save and working their way up from scraps again, but man it's taken me a year and a half to get my ranks up to where they are, I'll be fracked if I'm going to reset all of that!!!!! :O


As for multiple commander slots, I don't want one because I like having my virtual commander career summarized all in one character. That's not to say I'm against multiple CMDR slots, I think they should be available to people who want them, but personally I wouldn't use the spare slot if I had it. I like having to make choices and decisions with the one character I have, it adds more weight to the choices I make in game.

 

[Ceo]

I Clear save for a few reasons

1. To better understand how "new" features fit into the game
2. The smaller ships are fun to fly
3. I think more about the direction I want to take it (do I want another three cargo runs or do i take a cobra early and accept I have no insurance)
4. Being on the ragged edge is fun
5. Fights is a half armed asp are much more fun than in a fully armed python
6. When I catch myself thinking that 150,000 Cr mission isn't worth my while then I'm in the wrong place
7. When I wont take 20T of Biowaste with me when I can fill the space then i'm in the wrong place
8. when I runaway from a sidewinder that has interdicted me Im in the wrong place

Bamber, you summed it up perfectly. This is why I'm worried about 2.1, something I've been looking forward to so much. I wont care about a 100k CR mission, it doesn't interest me, small change as they say. I know I'm no different to thousands of others in that regard. However, when you're flying a Viper 3, and you're just on the edge of your insurance bill, that 100k seems a LOT more appealing. That's what I'm after.

If any of you have seen Insonia(I think that's it, the first FFOff pilot of note), he was always flying around in banged up ships with barely a million or two in his bank. He has been playing since the Alpha/Beta and yet still is in that "ragged edge" in a way. His fights matter, because his insurance bills matter. I envy that.

Yet I've explored thousands of solar systems, and done a lot with Commander Ceo, I don't want to lose all that :/

 

[SpocksOddSocks]

But I'm more attached to my exploration firsts and my ratings this time around. I could go deliberately bankrupt and keep them I suppose.

Whist I haven't tested it myself, I read somewhere that exploration tags remain. However, it isn't the exploration tags for me so much as the access to the data on the systems I've already scanned. I don't like having to rescan a system that I've already done.

 

[Maverick and Goose]

I purchased another account during a steam sale to mix things up when the piracy business is slow.

 

[[VR] Deggial]

I don't understand why people clear the save, just do something different?

Because I play games to have fun! This is, what I spent real money on - not a virtual progression or lasting achievements in a digital Sci-Fi world.

The game got stale to me. I reached 'Elite' rank in combat and (almost) trading, owned and maxed out all ships I wanted to fly, could have afforded the rest, was allied to all major factions and simply had no initiative to continue playing. Another million credits? Why bother. Doing missions? No reason to rank up any more.

Therefore, I decided to reset my commander, lay the game aside and abstain from playing until my VR headset arrives. I wanted to experience the new VR-world from the very beginning, starting in a Sidewinder and work my way up again.

Furthermore - and this is, why simply parking your expensive ships and flying small ones (or even throwing away all your assets and cash) doesn't work for me - I wanted to enjoy the full 'Engineers' experience... including the rejection due to my low rank/reputation, the satisfaction of its slow increase and finally getting the engineer's affirmation and service. You can NOT experience this, when you play your established character!

Unfortunately, first 2.1 and then the Oculus Rift got postponed. My desire to mount my spaceship and head into the void grew stronger and stronger... and I finally caved in.
Without 2.1, without VR, I started the game and launched my Freagle... and you know what? I couldn't stop playing! All the stalemate was gone and I had so much fun! My decision mattered again, even small money earned made me smile. Fighting Vultures in my Eagle did matter, as the rebuy-screen suddenly meant something to me, again!
(I still try to abstain from playing, as I don't want to progress to much. The initial reasons for my decision still stand. But it is hard!)

I say: reset your save!
To hell with the safety-net of an established back-up commander!
Grant yourself the enjoyment of a game where everything matters again and there is no going back!

 

[Soopyyy]

Its not really starting from scratch though, you still know how to do everything. It'll take you next to no time to get back to where you were with that knowledge. It all seems rather redundant. I mean, do as you please it hurts no one else. It just seems odd to me.

 

[Aewarin Jameson]

There's a very simple answer to that, possible misuse, some one making a throwaway commander when they want to annoy people, and then when they are done doing so, they jump onto their 'polite' commander, free from retribution in their own multi million ship.

Easy to counter: Block / Bans affect the account, not the commander.

Also, whilst I accept *some* would do that the majority wouldn't and would in fact find the extra slots useful.

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FD said they would allow it during the KS; last update I remember some time ago was Michael saying there were "complications" (paraphrased there)

I really wish they would - On a 2nd account I could try to go to Sag A* and beyond and not have to worry about Space Madness ...

 

[Cmdr Wullfen]

Only a disaster to those like you. I would like to keep slowly building my solo cmdr.
I would also like to try a fr8er.
I would like to try a miner.

I do everything on the one commander, could never clear save myself too much investment.

I'd love a second commander though I'd get myself to asp and go out in the black for as long as possible for the whole time on it. If they don't give us opportunity to get one I may buy one in the future

 

[Spacecat]

I don't know why anyone would do this. You can buy a sidewinder any time...

 

[d8veh]

I don't understand why people clear the save, just do something different?

It's good fun to do a clear save, then go and shoot a few Anacondas in a HI RES, so that you have enough credits to A-rate your Sidewinder, but stay Harmless status. Next, you fly around in the starter systems waiting for a griefer to have a go at you. It's really exciting because you never know when it's going to happen. After you've killed a few of them, you become Mostly Harmless, so you have to clear save and start again. It's also quite exciting to get the bounties on those Anacondas in a basic Sidewinder. It's very interesting seeing the reaction from all the other commanders. More try and help you than kill you.

 

[ocflyer]

I bought a 2nd account and asked a friend to start me with 7M to buy a smuggling cobra. I then earned 450M over 3 weeks through smuggling at 15-20M/hr. It isn't hard to earn the credits. The only part I don't like is ranking up to Rear Admiral again to buy a corvette. I should probably mention that I'm now Tycoon with 22% towards Elite.

 

[Kazacy]

To the OP: the most obvious reason for one account, one save is of course money. Because we don't have a monthly subscription (which in my my opinion is a good thing for the quality of the multiplayer part of the game), FD will try to make money in other ways.
I really fear the day when this game will became pay to win, because without a subscription it's a sure thing.

 

[Troy_McClure]

It's good fun to do a clear save, then go and shoot a few Anacondas in a HI RES, so that you have enough credits to A-rate your Sidewinder, but stay Harmless status. Next, you fly around in the starter systems waiting for a griefer to have a go at you. It's really exciting because you never know when it's going to happen. After you've killed a few of them, you become Mostly Harmless, so you have to clear save and start again. It's also quite exciting to get the bounties on those Anacondas in a basic Sidewinder. It's very interesting seeing the reaction from all the other commanders. More try and help you than kill you.

LOL, Vulture pilots are the worst for picking on 'novice' cmdrs..hilarious when they think 'ah this should be a piece of cake!' - I have vids of at least 7 or 8 Vultures attacking me unprovoked after I clear saved & then dying howibbly, howibbly!

 

[Spacecat]

It's good fun to do a clear save, then go and shoot a few Anacondas in a HI RES, so that you have enough credits to A-rate your Sidewinder, but stay Harmless status. Next, you fly around in the starter systems waiting for a griefer to have a go at you. It's really exciting because you never know when it's going to happen. After you've killed a few of them, you become Mostly Harmless, so you have to clear save and start again. It's also quite exciting to get the bounties on those Anacondas in a basic Sidewinder. It's very interesting seeing the reaction from all the other commanders. More try and help you than kill you.

Lol, this only sounds "fun" if you've run out of other things to do, but, to each his own.

 

[Spacecat]

To the OP: the most obvious reason for one account, one save is of course money. Because we don't have a monthly subscription (which in my my opinion is a good thing for the quality of the multiplayer part of the game), FD will try to make money in other ways.
I really fear the day when this game will became pay to win, because without a subscription it's a sure thing.

I dunno, with all the complaining I see about lack of content, I'm not sure a monthly sub would be worth it, just to haul freight and RES hunt. "Free" games have to be "pay to win" because it's their main source of revenue. If everybody else can make paid DLC (and in-game customization) work, Frontier should be able to also. Fallout isn't charging making me pay $5 for special guns and armor.

 

[Bacalao]

I say: reset your save!
To hell with the safety-net of an established back-up commander!
Grant yourself the enjoyment of a game where everything matters again and there is no going back!

If I reset my save nothing would matter anymore, I'd literally have nothing to lose, who needs a safety net when your sitting on the ground. Different perspectives I suppose.

Plus bounty hunting elite pythons, condas and dropships in an eagle/sidey is fun. If I reset my save they'd never spawn at that rank.

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To the OP: the most obvious reason for one account, one save is of course money. Because we don't have a monthly subscription (which in my my opinion is a good thing for the quality of the multiplayer part of the game), FD will try to make money in other ways.
I really fear the day when this game will became pay to win, because without a subscription it's a sure thing.

Doom and fear!!! Anyway, I'd pay $10 for a second save right now so I could use my paintjobs. No connection between saves required (this isn't wow, I don't want to mail credits to my "alts").

 

[SirAdelaide]

Yeah -buy a second commander / account. I did this when it was at sale price and totally love having two separate commanders doing different things as the mood takes me.

Having multiple "saves" in the one account would be a disaster - bored kiddies could go grief newbies etc all with no come-back.

Bored kiddies already do that. There's no reason why having multiple commanders would make it worse.

 

[EdzUp]

This gets requested a lot.

Frankly I have no idea why an account isn't allowed to have as many saves as a player wants (or some reasonable limit like 5 slots). Just seems silly.

Imagine all those extra commander ships dotted around the galaxy and all that data for fdev to keep track of. At least purchasing a new copy of the game gives them a little extra to add more server power and work on the game.

What I would like is if fdev allowed extra purchases to be linked to one account so buying three copies of ED would give me threw saves on my account

 

[GaryII]

First of all wait until 2.1 comes out, play little bit and then decide do you what to start over..or continue with old cmdr or in worst case quit playing E at all..

I remember similar threads before powerplay update...and probably after update come out some people were disappointed to say the least...