Question to "tag everything"-ers

Is it possible to manage to land on a planet without scanning it? If so - and tyre tracks are persistent across instances - then this would be incredibly cool. Imagine thinking you;re in a virgin system and then coming across some cryptic message on the surface of an otherwise unremarkable moon. 'Emergent gameplay' doesn't come close to describing the possibilities.


It's possible in one of several ways; one, don't target the planet on your approach, it's entirely possible to land on it without it being targeted. Two, sometimes planets can bug out and the DSS won't trigger even though they're selected and in range. It happens rarely, and mostly when there are lots of other players present and the game just kind of wants to kill itself; happened to me at Pallaeni, departure camp on DW launch day. I still don't have that planet scanned to this day since, well, going back to do it hasn't exactly been practical given my current location.

Disabling the DSS won't prevent the scan, so that won't work - all you'll accomplish is performing a level 2 scan instead of a level 3 and will have a bit less info on the planet in question, but it will still be scanned and eventually tagged when you sell the data.

As for tire tracks, physics of their longevity aside, I very much doubt that saving them permanently would do any favors to an already enormous and constantly growing exploration database making the exploration servers want to cry. So I very much doubt they'd be persistent mostly due to technical complexities this would entail - saving tire tracks permanently as planetary features is more complicated and data-intensive than just saving a few lines of text indicating some system info and the name of the commander who first sold the data on it.
 
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Disabling the DSS won't prevent the scan, so that won't work - all you'll accomplish is performing a level 2 scan instead of a level 3 and will have a bit less info on the planet in question, but it will still be scanned and eventually tagged when you sell the data.
Just repeating this as so many people seem confused about it (people who probably don't read this section though)
 
Yeah just like you did in your Sidey when starting out - turns it from "UNEXPLORED" to "WIERDSTUFF EB-P R0 C 7". The DSS just gives you a bonus on that for serious explorings at the cost of a whole honking big internal because A they're cruel and B not sure *grumbles*
 
What's scanning then? Regular sensors?


I guess so. Every ship has basic scanning capability without the detailed surface scanner - perhaps the same hardware used to obtain basic information about targeted ships and stations is also used to obtain basic planetary info. Only FD could answer with certainty; in any event, scanning without a DSS will produce a level 2 scan, while scanning with one a level 3. Level 1 would then be just a honk result which provides only basic info and isn't enough for a tag, while level 2 and 3 scans do also generate the first discovery tags.
 
Ok fair enough, I've re-read it and it came across as quite finger waggy. I was feeling a bit finger waggy when I wrote it as I was looking for a system in the bubble to scan, just one planet or moon to call my own and every system I found had been scanned utterly by one person. It felt selfish, but I didn't mean to accuse everyone who does it selfish, although I can see my words don't really read easily otherwise.

Sorry for offending anyone who I may have, I take it back, and I thank you for turning it into an interesting productive conversation, from which I've learned a lot :)


Who else thinks drkaii should change his name to CMDR Finger Wagger? I'm considering changing my name to CMDR 100% Scan Of Frozen Ice Balls!
 
If you find a wholly untagged system then it is entirely up to you how much of it you want to tag. That is your prerogative as first visitor. Time spent scanning, for frankly a pretty low monetary return and a strong chance of leaving your name on something far more permanent than oneself.

I don't often disagree with Dr Kaii but in this case I find I must, very strongly.
 
I found one where someone had tagged everything in it, except missed the main sun, which I dutifully tagged for him.

It happens - when I'm travelling fast, I'm already charging the FSD while looking at the system map and disengage to scan stuff of interest to me (which don't equal monetary value). And since that usually means working my way away from the primary, I often can't be bothered to turn around and scan it.
 
Well, to ensure that all interests are fairly represented here; I hit a system earlier, scanned one body (an ELW about 429Kls away from primary [really glad it was an ELW after that]) and have just scanned all bodies in another system (binary TF WW plus WW, and some HMC, only one moon), I even remembered to scan the primary - bringing balance and harmony to the universe :)
 
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Well, the great galactic karma disher-outers were watching and have given me another ELW just a few systems away.

reverted to form, scanned ELW & primary, left the rest for DrKaii ;)
 
For the time being, and just for the time being I'm scanning nearly everything. Well, every terrestrial with an atmosphere, at any rate. Not my usual cup of tea but I'm looking for 100% composition atmospheres and there's no other way to find them.
 

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I'm cherry-picking now as I make my final run-in towards BP but when I am done I am going to find me a sector out in the far-flung depths of one the Western Arms and scan the whole thing. Every star, every body, every moon. Might take me a year to complete but I'll try to give it a go.

Flying slightly mad-eyed towards the Abyss.
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For the time being, and just for the time being I'm scanning nearly everything. Well, every terrestrial with an atmosphere, at any rate. Not my usual cup of tea but I'm looking for 100% composition atmospheres and there's no other way to find them.
Have you tried listening to them?</Brookes>

No don't, you'll just go mad.
 
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Have you tried listening to them?

I haven't; I was under the impression that different types of planets could be distinguished but hadn't heard there was any indication of the exact atmosphere type, and moreover as I'm looking for 100% whatever atmospheres I don't think it's anything like that specific. Though I'd be intrigued if it were...
 
For the time being, and just for the time being I'm scanning nearly everything. Well, every terrestrial with an atmosphere, at any rate. Not my usual cup of tea but I'm looking for 100% composition atmospheres and there's no other way to find them.

It's good to have a goal! I'm looking for the gas giant with the highest gravity I can find (so I can visit it and die horribly if ever we can descend down to them in a future update!)
 
I just thought I would post this. The suns farthest away from the major is around 450k Ly, so quite a bit of travelling in cruise. The question is, "Would you do a complete scan?" Well.... I did :D

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When I do full scans, it's mostly for the monetary value's sake, not the tags. I have even fully scanned systems that were already tagged by somebody else, as I still get the better payout, less the tag bonus.

During DWE, I didn't have enough time to do this. The vast majority of those systems were just ADS and moved on. For my own exploration trips, though, I can take my time plus the DSS scans break the jumping monotony. Something fun about seeing a system's structure on the projected orbit lines as I move about it.
 
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