... weird, I then must did something wrong when in my two play evenings (2.1) did mining in conda (average build) and traded/missions in my scavenger build Python. All went smoothly and I had alot fun (except 'redirection' missions which are so far only one '-' for me).The allready narrow game play is reduced even more to combat and exploring
The moment you use multipurpose ship with some cargo, with some jump range, non combat related internals and you put something valuable in cargo it is only matter of time when you will be killed by NPC's.
Mining, trading is out of question now.
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Yes if I take my 100% combat ready der del lance or refit my corvette or conda to be 100% combat ship with all internals for combat (Hull packages, SCB, military grade armor...) I would feel pretty comfortable in combat. With ship that jumps 10LY i will be probably stuck in single system with haz RES and shoot down NPC's ad nauseam, then come to forum and write that NPC's are fine and not OP
5B Shields, 5B Thrusters.... best I can afford ATM.
And not too bad I think. Also 2 Shield Boosters, 0A.
I've been running an Asp with Bi-Weave and a single booster, I died only because I tried some dumb thing in a HazRES, otherwise I can jump away from troubles easily.
Are you submitting to the interdictions? If you submit, FSD cooldown time is shorter. Use chaff and run. They never caught me this way.
I'd guess it also depends what they are doing at the time. The trade missions can spawn some nasty pirates that come after you. I had a very funny and very angry escort last night. For 1900ls a dangerous FDL and an Elite Python kept interdicting my trade Conda. So I dragged them all the way back to the station and listened to the station cannons shredding them to pieces as I turned in the mission. But that is an Anaconda. In a smaller ship I would probably not stack high paying trade missions, unless I'm sure about my piloting skills.
Whining about it isnt a solution either...![]()
... weird, I then must did something wrong when in my two play evenings (2.1) did mining in conda (average build) and traded/missions in my scavenger build Python. All went smoothly and I had alot fun (except 'redirection' missions which are so far only one '-' for me).
"this is my experience, and you may not share it, so dont think you have to comment on it then"
This basically means heres my complaint and if you dont like it shut up.
Okay then. Well i have a few suggestions then..hows that?
Trading is dangerous now..as it should be. You need to wing up and use escorts. That means making friends. I will be your firend if you like and i will escort you. It will be fun for me to feel usefull and it will be fun for you to be escorted.
If you dont want to do this..and prefer to get blown up alone for no actual reason..ok then. You need to better outfit your ship and use high waking. If you want help outfitting your ship and highwaking..will provide help for this. Reply to me and ask for help in future if you need it..please.
I've been running an Asp with Bi-Weave and a single booster, I died only because I tried some dumb thing in a HazRES, otherwise I can jump away from troubles easily.
Are you submitting to the interdictions? If you submit, FSD cooldown time is shorter. Use chaff and run. They never caught me this way.
I remember one time in one of my slower ships I got interdicted, got a tad mass locked, he gained on me, I made a quick 180° FA-off-turn and boosted past him in the opposite direction and got away easily.So much satisfaction!
I'm stacking every mission possible (Viper MkIV) since 2.1 launch and had any problem at all. Some interdictions yes, but I'm already far away when they start shooting (if they start). I can escape any interdiction by pressing at most 10 keys. I don't even need to touch the HOTAS.
One way to look at my initial words, yes. But I am responsive of what I mean, not what others interpret into it. And if it is rephrased, then look at it as "This is my feedback based on my experience, if your never made this experiences, than no need to spam silly stuff in here, except if contributing to the discussion"
And this also means: If you play the game your way and youre happy, ok. But there are other playstyles. An mine is also "Single play". YOU may have bought Elite Dangerous for Multiplayer, I did not. So why looking out for friends? I play single universe, and I should not need friends there, sorry. Dont look at things from your point of view only. I play single universe, I dont like combat, and I dont see any reason why Trading around Sol, or other Systems which are not anarchy, should be dangerous to trade in. And I dont understand why it is ok to get blown up within seconds with NO chance to react etc.
That is ok if its something like 1 out of 100 fights, but not ALL fights, or 90% of them. Experiences may differ. I also dont understand why people are talking about stuff in secret languages. High waking? I am sorry again... I enter the system and as soon as the FSD is ready i Jump to another system, but I am interdicted while the countdown runs....... that happens quite often to me. Sometimes I manage to escape the interrupt, sometimes not. If not, I am usually dead within 10 to 20 seconds, no matter what I do, if I can do anything. Last time, I could not fire a weapon, I could not move, I could just sit there and watch my health going down while Trying to fire missiles, cycle wepaons... nothing happened. Fully locked systems.....
If that is intended, than because of a secret conspiracy in which they want to get rid of players, so they dont need to come up with the other patches and settle down somewhere on the beach...... who believes this, ok... I dontThis looks like they messed up something, and that is why I tried to find out if this affects only me, if I am just too stupid, or if this is something common.
Hi waking means selecting another system and jumping to it. Its not affected by mass lock.
There is nothing wrong with the game. Its hard. Its meant to be hard. You want to fly solo and refuse help from a wing. Ok then.. its more dangerous alone and it doesnt sound like you know what youre doing. This means you will die. And rightly so. Im not being mean..im stating facts here.
I told you if you need help with outfitting the ship and high waking i would help. But you reply by saying you dont undertand the language we use and dont know what hi wake is. You seem unwilling to learn. It seems to me a trend that its easier to complain and try get something changed to suit you rather than put the effort in to adapt. Thats not directed at you personally its directed at EVERYONE compaing on these forums.
I would not even say youre wrong, but you except me to learn...... and I except people to read my posts.
And so far, noone could really tell me the difference it should make high and low wake in me getting killed. I changed config, I altered behavior, but what is so hard to understand in "interdicted, no matter what I do, I get killed because they rip me in fractions within seconds, because they are far too overpowered"? Others in this thread said they experienced this too.
And it is not that I dont accept help, but teaming up would not help in my "problem", which simply is: the game changed in a way that does not mean fun for me anymore
That is no complain, it is feedback. Feedback followed by "me stop playing" and that followed by "me stop paying". If others do that as well, you will end up with no game as well... no money means no servers.....
So for now, this is just feedback. I dont really expect this to be intended, and thats what I wanted to find out with this thread. All the hints in this thread described methods I use already pre-patch, because this is more or less "normal" behavior in games like Elite Dangerous. And for sure I died because I was too stupid sometimes. I would not complain because of that.
But I see things different: If there are ranks for exploring, trading and fighting, those ranks should not need to be leveled the same time. If I want to be a trader, I should be able to escape somehow, which is not possible at the moment, not at my level/rank. Simply not doing TRADE-Missions because of not high enough combat-level cant be the solution.... It would mean "dont play trade missions if you want to be a trader".
That is why I talked about balancing in my initial post. If I would run missions worth a million or so... ok. But hey, we are talking about trade.missions of about 50 to 150k, most of them around 70k...... and those missions are most often below my merchant-trade-rank, and I got killed in 70% of the encounters without even being able to do more than deploy weapons.......
If ED is a game you need to fight at all time for every type of mission....... well, then it would be a complain. But it was different in the past, so I hope for a patch that balances that....
I agree and disagree with this. The AI is great now for the most part, and I hope SJA continues to improve it with more tactics and varied decision making across all ranks.
On the other hand, some of the NPCs are doing far more damage than seems reasonable even for Elite ranked. If those crazy "kill you in a few seconds" NPCs are toned down I think people will be much happier in general. I really hope the AI doesn't get easier though, I'm a casual PvE player and I think it's the most fun it's ever been.
What is hard to understand when you say you couldn't do anything is that, excluding an apparent bug, plenty of other pilots are out there coping fine. This means when looking at our own experiences we have to wonder if you really couldn't do anything or are wrong. For instance you said earlier you didn't even have time to deploy weapons, why are you deploying weapons if you are trying to run?[/QUOTE
Interesting point.
What is hard to understand when you say you couldn't do anything is that, excluding an apparent bug, plenty of other pilots are out there coping fine. This means when looking at our own experiences we have to wonder if you really couldn't do anything or are wrong. For instance you said earlier you didn't even have time to deploy weapons, why are you deploying weapons if you are trying to run?