Discuss the AI here!

What do you think of the new AI?

  • Too hard

    Votes: 954 46.7%

  • Just right

    Votes: 838 41.0%

  • Too easy

    Votes: 117 5.7%

  • Other (give reason)

    Votes: 134 6.6%
  • Total voters
    2,043
  • Poll closed .
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frostypaw

frostypaw
StiTch said:
You know what, that's cool. I love that you love the challenge, and this post isn't (or shouldn't be) "AI is so tough that everyone hates the game".

But looking at the poll, the majority of players do have some kinda issue, and I am in touch with a couple of decent sized groups that are finding a lot of issues with newer players now. We were nicely integrating them into the game, and suddenly they're asking us how to deal with interdictions that completely fry them.

If there's an issue, it's scaling, as I've mentioned. Elite/Deadly etc. ranked enemies are in a good place, and they were certainly underpowered before...tendency to hi-wake out constantly i find a bore, but adore the challenge aside. But low-mid ranked enemies just have too much sting to call this a sandbox game for most players.
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This is good and what I mean by address the bugs and issues not attacking users or laying blame at various doorsteps

There DO appear to be scaling issues. These can be addressed and should be so everyone has fun and it really does seem like the NPCs have slightly too free&easy access to the mods - both relatively easy things to adjust and fix compared to the whole baby+bathwater some people (not pointing at you or anyone in particular) are proposing

Without the bugs it's impossible to tell how this poll would have gone and if they're successfully patched in Thursday's update it'd be good to run the poll again without the instagank PA's and rails around, could be a hugely different picture

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Commandr Sam said:
People who plan trade routes and are smart enough to check out security levels while trading do not get interdicted much so have no problems.

People that find a trade route from the internet and run it blindly in anarchy systems do get interdicted then complain about it here.
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Many of the trade tools could do with warnings about this now especially some of the rares route finders - the cross-bubble treks I did would need more planning now for sure, but not undoable
 

Fost

Fost
42 and love the new AI for what that's worth. Had the most fun bounty hunting I've had in a long time this weekend.
I think the mid level AI is a bit too hard for players in mid level ships (actually due to it having access to engineer's mods too early I suspect).

Now security level is important again perhaps the route plotter could have an "avoid low security systems" option for players doing trading?
 

Jason S

J
Well I have now changed my mind, I did vote too hard but I am now thinking it is ok if the insta death weapons are resolved.

The question is how to get those back who left the game due to combat being to easy.
 

Minoo Minou

Minoo Minou
Subadei said:
I said no such thing. Try to apply a little integrity here.

As for age being a factor. Madam...age is ALWAYS a factor. If you don't understand this you are not aged.

But no doubt I'm wrong, as I always am when disagreeing with a Moderator.

Exactly how many aged people do you expect to see compete in the Rio Olympics? Or the next Formula 1 Grand Prix? Or .......etc etc etc ..............

Spare me your delusions.

Even Paul McCartney doesn't churn 'em out anymore.;
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Oh no you can't compare a video game with some high level sport...

By the way, never heard of Cmdr McCartney? :D
 

Crazy Jedi

Crazy Jedi
Agony_Aunt said:
If your argument is that its the older people are the ones complaining about the AI difficulty, i'd like to see your source of data for that.

As an older player, i'm absolutely fine with the new AI.

You're on very tenuous grounds making such an assertion. Not to mention, us older players were playing computer games before the younger players were even born. We haz skillz and are ub3r and will pwn u!.... dear gods... that takes me back. I do hope the younger generation have at least dropped l337 speak from online gaming... it was sooo lame.
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Ha ha ha
had to ask my son what most of that meant. I am also a gamer who remembers his first PC being a Comodor 16 - that's right, not the 64. The 16!!! Ok anyway..... The AI always needed improvement in ED. unfortunately that Improvement has gone hand in hand with a raft of other changes (covered throughout these many posts) which have somewhat messed things up. I'm not a fan of how things are but the AI improvement is just that
 

hunvagy

hunvagy
Crazy Jedi said:
Ha ha ha
had to ask my son what most of that meant. I am also a gamer who remembers his first PC being a Comodor 16 - that's right, not the 64. The 16!!! Ok anyway..... The AI always needed improvement in ED. unfortunately that Improvement has gone hand in hand with a raft of other changes (covered throughout these many posts) which have somewhat messed things up. I'm not a fan of how things are but the AI improvement is just that
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Hey the C= 16 is an awesome machine, and so is the +4 ;) And yes, we really have to revisit this conversation once the rapid fire railgun has been exiled into witchspace and all NPCs play fair again.
 

Cmdr Eagleboy

Cmdr Eagleboy
Subadei said:
So, and I want to be absolutely clear on this, you're stating, in the clearest possible way, that you, at the age of 65, are the equal of any man, or indeed woman, half your age. True?
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Can you stick with ontopic for this thread and avoid discussing people ages? Thank you.
 

frostypaw

frostypaw
Subadei said:
So, and I want to be absolutely clear on this, you're stating, in the clearest possible way, that you, at the age of 65, are the equal of any man, or indeed woman, half your age. True?
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Can I post a Chuck Norris meme?

This guy needs kicking to the kerb mods, it can only get unpleasant.
 

Whiterose

Whiterose
Subadei said:
So, and I want to be absolutely clear on this, you're stating, in the clearest possible way, that you, at the age of 65, are the equal of any man, or indeed woman, half your age. True?
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When it comes to computer games yes, obviously not when it comes to running 100 metres.
 

capt_sparks

C
Subadei said:
I said no such thing. Try to apply a little integrity here.

As for age being a factor. Madam...age is ALWAYS a factor. If you don't understand this you are not aged.

But no doubt I'm wrong, as I always am when disagreeing with a Moderator.

Exactly how many aged people do you expect to see compete in the Rio Olympics? Or the next Formula 1 Grand Prix? Or .......etc etc etc ..............

Spare me your delusions.

Even Paul McCartney doesn't churn 'em out anymore.;
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Of course age is a factor, like I even wonder how a centenarian would play Elite. Or a toddler.

I think as long as you can play what's in Elite right now, no matter the age, you should be fine. Whether it's fine for you or not will depend on your preference and attitude towards the game. This game is Elite : Dangerous, and I'm happy it's finally dangerous and my brain starts to have some use unlike before where I can farm NPCs with my ship stationary. And this is Elite; it's not just a CMDR rank but a word synonymous to exclusivity. Casual players need not be "casual" when playing. Just like in life, you have to put effort no matter how tough are the challenges and be creative enough to find better means as a workaround to existing issues. Once you find the meaning behind that, only then can you feel the pleasure of what's really Elite is all about.
 

Crazy Jedi

Crazy Jedi
hunvagy said:
Hey the C= 16 is an awesome machine, and so is the +4 ;) And yes, we really have to revisit this conversation once the rapid fire railgun has been exiled into witchspace and all NPCs play fair again.
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My mate at school had the 16+4 and I was envious of his extra 4K
has there been any word on when a fix will be made?
 

verminstar

Banned
verminstar
Just wanna add one little thing about age. Yes I'm complaining about this game right now, but I came from a game in which I'm ranked as one of the top pvp players in the entire game...a title I have held for almost 5 years.

Im 45 this year and have been playing games on a hardcore level since the 80s and still rocking...just not here right now but a blip on the radar...hopefully ^^
 
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