So you want to know about the Formidine Rift? (Part 3)
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dynamicbob
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can anyone point me to a jumponium location close to where the bridge starts
This post may help. The Children of Raxxla are patrolling-slash-prospecting out there now.
dynamicbob
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well we know if enough players do enough of something in a general area the devs pay attention and it seems like engineers to be placed on player actions ie 1000 players jumping into a system might trigger a uss spawner or a galnet article
So have shorter term goals near the base camps been thought of for example getting every system within 50ly, then 100ly scanned at least twice by visiting players, and sector by sector short projects and the like
It is a needle in a haystack, but encouraging those at the base camps to jump into and out of the HQ bases 5 times a day to increase jumps in and out of key systems. May be enough to get some future cg to build a small dockable outpost, that and getting more players signed up and involved should help
So have shorter term goals near the base camps been thought of for example getting every system within 50ly, then 100ly scanned at least twice by visiting players, and sector by sector short projects and the like
It is a needle in a haystack, but encouraging those at the base camps to jump into and out of the HQ bases 5 times a day to increase jumps in and out of key systems. May be enough to get some future cg to build a small dockable outpost, that and getting more players signed up and involved should help
I think I have a small theory about Genar's image now. Efil's edit made my brain tie the loose ends together in my head. Whether or not this makes any sense is up to you.
The amount of the points in the stars had bothered me a lot, as well as the fading, large, 5-pointed star on the background. I'm trying to explain both and will start with the star shapes and sizes.
The stars vary both in size and in amount of points. I felt there must be some kind of meaning in both. I went with easy geometric explanation that the amount of points is a number and smooth ball = 1, as it is impossible to create star shape with only one point. I was first trying to find the significance in star magnitudes, but as perception of human eye starts from magnitude 6, it seemed somehow unlikely path. The highest amount of points we see here is 6, and that is the extent of what we could see there. The magnitude system is also very limited; it is tied to both human perception and view on earth. Thus, I dismissed this idea and went on to look for something else.
I ended up looking at the Morgan-Keenan spectral classification, like Efil, as it aligns well with the gameplay too. I think my conclusion is a bit more specific on the star types, though.
Image shamelessly borrowed from Wikipedia article: Star Classification
It'd be straightforward to expect the star size to match the viewed luminosity. The large 5-pointed star should be by this logic in the same system, as the planet; it is way too large otherwise. But where should we look for this planet to align the view on the galaxy? Location of the Dark Wheel "observatory" would be one choice, but I had amazing epiphany for another option that I couldn't overlook. This is where the tinfoil comes in.
After I saw the implied curve as a planet, I came up why the 5-pointed star might be shown fading. It is a sunset! Ex-senator Kahina, now Salomé, visited Cambridge on Earth supposedly to see something at equinox. That happened soon after sunset. Even more satisfying was to notice Sun matched my hypothesis on star type. It is class G star and 5 points by this theory should signify G-class star as well. Unless the described sunset is positioned only artistically, it should give us also the direction where to look. That would be somewhere between East and South-East. And why would this logo have anything to do with Salomé's visit to Sol? Well, she did leave behind the Dark Wheel Medallion. We do not know, what her affiliation was, but maybe she needed information from them.
Artist's vision of the Genar/Efil asterism.
It's a nice logo.
The big star is probably Sirius. It's always Sirius.
Or Polaris...
I was thinking something similar. There's also two of them, they point in different directions, and they carry a number (AR-9). If there's anything to that, rather than pointing to the Col70 sector, maybe they're part of a chain of relay stations that we can follow across systems to their origin/destination?
A little theory crafting...
I'm slightly bothered by some of the remarks made by Drew recently. Specifically: (paraphrasing) group may find it easier to find the 'thing' and people might not realise when they find 'it'.
A group having more chance implied to me two possibilities: either whatever is to find is very hard to find in a given system or systems, and so you would need a lot of coverage in that system to spot it. Or, what I think is more likely: it is an area of space we are looking for, and you might need people spread over an whole area to spot the 'thing'. What could this be? I'm thinking something like an unusually high concentration of White Dwarf stars, in a given smallish area, say 30 in a 40ly bubble.
That might not look odd to the casual observer. However if you are thinking "that's a oddly high number of White Dwarves", then you see they are all the same age. Then you might realise you are looking at the remnants of an interstellar war where someone started liberally throwing around Nova Trigger torpedoes and destroying stars, wiping out a whole space faring civilisation, and all evidence of there existence, in a few weeks.
Now that is a very specific example. But what I am suggesting is that it may not be a signal source, or even a location or ruin, or probe. But rather an odd arrangement of otherwise regular things: like stars. Looked at casually you see nothing. Look at it closely and something might look artificial or, just out of place, which is why some might not even realise they are looking at 'it'.
Nova trigger torpedoes. You heard it here first.
I'm slightly bothered by some of the remarks made by Drew recently. Specifically: (paraphrasing) group may find it easier to find the 'thing' and people might not realise when they find 'it'.
A group having more chance implied to me two possibilities: either whatever is to find is very hard to find in a given system or systems, and so you would need a lot of coverage in that system to spot it. Or, what I think is more likely: it is an area of space we are looking for, and you might need people spread over an whole area to spot the 'thing'. What could this be? I'm thinking something like an unusually high concentration of White Dwarf stars, in a given smallish area, say 30 in a 40ly bubble.
That might not look odd to the casual observer. However if you are thinking "that's a oddly high number of White Dwarves", then you see they are all the same age. Then you might realise you are looking at the remnants of an interstellar war where someone started liberally throwing around Nova Trigger torpedoes and destroying stars, wiping out a whole space faring civilisation, and all evidence of there existence, in a few weeks.
Now that is a very specific example. But what I am suggesting is that it may not be a signal source, or even a location or ruin, or probe. But rather an odd arrangement of otherwise regular things: like stars. Looked at casually you see nothing. Look at it closely and something might look artificial or, just out of place, which is why some might not even realise they are looking at 'it'.
Nova trigger torpedoes. You heard it here first.
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I agree that it sounds like it's most likely to be an unusual, or collection of unusual, stellar arrangement(s). When I was out there, I noticed what seems to me to be an abnormally high number of earth-like worlds, but not one else has seem to have noticed that, so maybe I was just lucky. I do like the idea of white dwarves resulting from a nova-triggering weapon, but that seems unlikely to me, because it would be visible from the galaxy map without having to go out there and look. Although if a star was recently destroyed, the map would likely still list whatever star it used to be, since we would still get that light back in the bubble, and there would be a mismatch between what the map said and what we actually see when there.
Greetings folks,
Just wanted to let you guys know that I am helping to form a Federation exploration group, the Earth Expeditionary Force. We're going to seek to get more Commanders interested in the Rift, other galactic mysteries and the Lore of the Elite universe. In many ways I hope to foster a group that will be as involved and engaged as the Children of Raxxla that is open to Federation-aligned players who want to maintain that allegiance. If successful I hope we can interact with CoR on many PvE levels, including providing a Federation presence for ongoing narrative purposes as we, led by Drew, continue to participate in the story of Kahina Loren and the Formidine Rift.
More information is available here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=257997
Just wanted to let you guys know that I am helping to form a Federation exploration group, the Earth Expeditionary Force. We're going to seek to get more Commanders interested in the Rift, other galactic mysteries and the Lore of the Elite universe. In many ways I hope to foster a group that will be as involved and engaged as the Children of Raxxla that is open to Federation-aligned players who want to maintain that allegiance. If successful I hope we can interact with CoR on many PvE levels, including providing a Federation presence for ongoing narrative purposes as we, led by Drew, continue to participate in the story of Kahina Loren and the Formidine Rift.
More information is available here: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=257997
I'd rather hope people would leave bubble politics at the bubble and explore as fellow sentients. Of course I'm not suggestion you are doing or saying anything political, but 'Federation-aligned' makes me check over the armament of my 'somewhat heavily armed for an exploration ASP' set up.
EDIT: This post contains a large degree of tongue in cheek. I'm sure you will make space great again.
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Yes true, but that was just an example of how 'it' might be something made of very normal assets as opposed to something unique.
That said, if was something like that, a 30 ly bubble? To see that on the map you would have to be in close, sweeping over a still vast area, even on one plane that would take someone many many hours to cover any reasonably area of space. Thats before we take 'off the plane' into consideration. I still think it would be a major undertaking. And then you would still want to go look anyway.
For example I recently found this whilst map sweeping. What were the chances?
This really isn't about taking politics out of the Bubble. It's trying to get more people involved. Besides if anybody is responsible for taking politics out of the Bubble It was CoR when they sent armed ships into the Rift. They may only be a minor faction but they are still a faction.
"Winter is Coming" and a lot of players who have eschewed exploration are going to be entering into Deep Space. If I can do my part to keep exploration PvE then I will.
Yes. Making space great again.
So. What " Supposed " to be in that section of space, that a thread would be made about it?
I've only been as far as the Heart, and soul nebulas, and the bubble nebula. for that area.
I've only been as far as the Heart, and soul nebulas, and the bubble nebula. for that area.
Great question.
The answer? We don't know.
A couple of the Elite: Dangerous tin-in novels make mention of the Formidine Rift and something being out there in or beyond it. The author of Elite: Reclamation, Mr. Drew Wagar, has confirmed that Frontier Developments added a 'surprise' out in the area somewhere. We don't know what it is that we are looking for but we do know that 'it' is out there. So we're looking.
I noticed the same in the vicinity of the Myoidee sector. I remember at one point, every 2-3 jumps lead me to a habitable system. The ones within close proximity to each other are MYOIDEE GX-L D7-4, MYOIDEAU ZH-U C16-0 and PHRIO HYPUE DT-O D7-2.
Since we have bookmarks now, maybe all of us should share our findings and map the areas that have the most earth-likes.