FDev, please show a bit more respect for your players time.

[Jypson]

OP, your post reeks of honesty, and I respect that. +1. In my post below, when I say 'you', I don't mean you specifically or anyone else specifically, just 'you' the reader. Okay, time for some honesty on my part

I've come to peace with my place in the Elite Universe. I've found a small part of the game that I enjoy (enjoyed?) immensely, and pretty much ignore the rest as their is no joy in it for me. I'm a Bounty Hunter ('Pirate Popper' as I call the roll) and that's pretty much it. I enjoy going out into the RES' and getting into scrap after scrap for as long as my wrists will take it

I really have no interest in exploration, mining, trading, Powerplay (or the BGS), CQC, planetary landings, or the latest, Engineers. I had a brief interest in missions with the onset of 2.0, but the bugginess and unreliability has taken me off that as well. For me personally, it's all a grind without end in sight, so I don't do it. Pirate Popping is the only activity that keeps my interest and keeps my butt in the cockpit.

I accept that I'm the odd man out, and I don't complain about the other activities in the game because I know that other people enjoy their own things as well. It's not called Elite: Jypson after all I just cross my fingers and hope that each update that comes out doesn't adversely effect the one thing I do enjoy too much, and carry on with my own thing.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, I think we would all be better off if we learned to accept that FDev is going to do what they do, and it's our job to find our own joy in there somewhere and not worry about the rest. If you're running into something not fun, stay clear, that part isn't meant for you. It's meant for someone else who does enjoy it. It's not called Elite: You after all And if you can't accept that, I recommend playing something else. There are a lot of great games out there, and there's no reason to be upset and fester about one in particular. For example, I just started playing Rebel Galaxy, and I'm loving it! Maybe RES' aren't the be-all end-all after all....

 

[mbar]

@Jypson +rep and the post should be a stickied post of its own. Describes my experience with the game. It just seems with every update I paint myself into a smaller corner of activity. Right now it's bounty popping because that seems what the game forces upon you. Combat.

 

[Barmatyr]

If we talk about respect, just one thing to says : Stop playing Elite !

It's the best way to have respect for yourself, other players, developing team, your wife, your child, and anything you live with or not.

This game is dead, and it's really a good news !!!...to everybody !

note for myself : Why i keep spending some time on this forum, reading, and responding to question. Clearly i'm masochist and sadistic.

 

[JuicerPrime]

There are a lot of great games out there, and there's no reason to be upset and fester about one in particular. For example, I just started playing Rebel Galaxy, and I'm loving it! Maybe RES' aren't the be-all end-all after all....

Nice post. I quite liked my niche too while it lasted And hey, Rebel Galaxy! Awesome game. It's like Sid Meier's Pirates! and Firefly had a baby. Warping into combat and the guitar riff of When the Devil Calls starts up? So darn epic.

Spoiler

[video=youtube;Tn55SH8dOv0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn55SH8dOv0[/video]

I will be listening to this the next time I take my Viper into battle, oh yes [big grin]

(Sorry for off-topic, just...Rebel Galaxy. Mmmfh!)

 

[Jypson]

Nice post. I quite liked my niche too while it lasted And hey, Rebel Galaxy! Awesome game. It's like Sid Meier's Pirates! and Firefly had a baby. Warping into combat and the guitar riff of When the Devil Calls starts up? So darn epic.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn55SH8dOv0

I will be listening to this the next time I take my Viper into battle, oh yes [big grin]

(Sorry for off-topic, just...Rebel Galaxy. Mmmfh!)

Indeed, the music is so well done, love the vibe they constructed [yesnod]

Alright, lets turn this thread into a Rebel Galaxy appreciation thread! Just kidding mods, don't smite me!

 

[Lobey]

Indeed, the music is so well done, love the vibe they constructed [yesnod]

Alright, lets turn this thread into a Rebel Galaxy appreciation thread! Just kidding mods, don't smite me!

Repped for the post and for cluing me in on Rebel Galaxy - defn one I'll be picking up

 

[Genxav]

Quote Originally Posted by Loskene View Post
Always funny to see that the only people disagreeing with the OP are the same few who go around disagreeing with every complaint thread, no matter how minor, while dogpiling and patting each other on the back to boot. Always the same names, always the same attitude, "FD can do no wrong!" even if it means disagreeing with FD themselves when they admit they did wrong. Honestly guys, can you just stop, what do you think you're accomplishing other than trying to insure the game is never improved upon? You're a cancer to a project like this, and I'm sure the devs don't listen to you anyway, they know when they up and telling them they haven't won't change that.

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I'm honestly glad someone has brought this up, I've noticed this community has a real problem with rampant fanboyism, and that certain group of fanboys will defend whatever decision Fdev makes, no matter how badly thought out it is. On top of that, anyone with any kind of criticism who even dares to insinuate that this game MAY have some problems, is labeled a "Whiner", or a "Troll".

Constructive criticism is what allows a game to develop and grow you guys, if we were all just mindless yes men to fdev, then this game won't grow and it will just die out.

Had to Quote the quote of a quote

 

[1984]

I totally agree. I am ignoring engineers. I only get two hours a week.

 

[Chummy62]

I just did some digging and it appears that Sandro and the good folks at Frontier Development have more games in the pipeline. This means that their time is being split between Elite Dangerous and other projects. I don't know if this is a good thing or a bad thing, but I do know that when my attention is divided between multiple projects, I'm not able to apply my best efforts to either. This also means that if other projects are in the pipeline, they are not as dependent on Elite Dangerous being successful.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

No harm done .

And you're quite correct, there are an unfortunate number of pillocks. I think we manage a better ratio than on other parts of the internet though.

Which is a sad thought

Here's what sparked my comment.

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I'm honestly glad someone has brought this up, I've noticed this community has a real problem with rampant fanboyism, and that certain group of fanboys will defend whatever decision Fdev makes, no matter how badly thought out it is. On top of that, anyone with any kind of criticism who even dares to insinuate that this game MAY have some problems, is labeled a "Whiner", or a "Troll".

Constructive criticism is what allows a game to develop and grow you guys, if we were all just mindless yes men to fdev, then this game won't grow and it will just die out.

This

On top of that, anyone with any kind of criticism who even dares to insinuate that this game MAY have some problems, is labeled a "Whiner", or a "Troll".

in the same post as this

because i can almost guarantee you that all these people who are <achoo!> each other and <achoo! So sorry> Fdev don't fly anything larger then an Asp. They maybe play like a couple hours a week and do nothing but aimlessly wander the galaxy

and this

mindless yes men to fdev

is just delicious hypocritical irony.

 

[xXR34P3RXx]

is just delicious hypocritical irony.

Hypocritical irony in what sense exactly?

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Hypocritical irony in what sense exactly?

You're complaining about being called a whiner and a troll while ....

I'll let you finish that sentence

 

[Deadspin]

Well, that username...

 

[xXR34P3RXx]

You're complaining about being called a whiner and a troll while ....

.....Having legitimate and thought out criticisms of the current state of the game, along with everyone else in this thread who happen to agree with me?

oh but we're just all just a bunch of "whining trolls" though, am i right? Can't possibly be because Fdev may have made an error in there games design, they are divine gods after all and they can do no wrong.

way to prove my earlier post true.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

.....Having legitimate and thought out criticisms of the current state of the game, along with everyone else in this thread who happen to agree with me?

Is that how you would describe your post I quoted? Legitimate and thought out criticism?

Very well. Eye of the beholder I guess

oh but we're just all just a bunch of "whining trolls" though, am i right?

way to prove my earlier post true.

Not once did I call you "whining trolls". That's a sentiment you're falsely attributing to me. And you used that dishonesty to prove yourself right.

My word man, you are a find.

 

[xXR34P3RXx]

Is that how you would describe your post I quoted? Legitimate and thought out criticism?

Ya, i would. And so would a lot of people in the thread i would imagine.

Not once did I call you "whining trolls".

maybe not directly, but it was heavily implied

You're complaining about being called a whiner and a troll while ....

Hmm, i wonder what you could possibly be getting at with this statement.....

Look i understand that you think this game is awesome, so do i in fact, thats why i criticize it so harshly because i want to see it grow and develop. But it's ok to admit that perhaps something you love may have flaws that need to be reexamined and addressed. Disingenuously trying to label anybody with any kind of criticism a "troll" or a "whiner" doesn't help this game, it only hinders it.

 

[Kestril]

I agree with the OP. Due to the layers and layers of RNG, the time-sink feels quite frustrating at times. And the progress/time ratio seems out of whack.

That said, the gameplay loop is now much better than before. I'm exploring, mission-ing, and diversifying, not just farming RES sites anymore.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Ya, i would. And so would a lot of people in the thread i would imagine.

I'm certain you do

maybe not directly, but it was heavily implied

I was rather explicit and specific actually in my criticism. Whiner or troll was not stated nor implied. Not heavily, not softly with my song.

Hmm, i wonder what you could possibly be getting at with this statement.....

Look i understand that you think this game is awesome, so do i in fact, thats why i criticize it so harshly because i want to see it grow and develop. But it's ok to admit that perhaps something you love may have flaws that need to be reexamined and addressed. Disingenuously trying to label anybody with any kind of criticism a "troll" or a "whiner" doesn't help this game, it only hinders it.

I'll break it down for you, and then I'll leave it at that. Almost certainly boring the audience to death.

Complaining that people are rude to you, while being rude to people makes the complaint seem less than sincere.

Now, regular broadcast will resume, be certain to write more of those constructive and well-thought out posts

 

[xXR34P3RXx]

Complaining that people are rude to you, while being rude to people makes the complaint seem less than sincere.

That Doesn't make the complaints any less valid just because it hurts your feelings.

I don't care if people are rude to me, all i care about is that the issue that the OP and everyone else in this thread is talking about is addressed by Fdev, and dealt with. Thats all that matters.

The "Rudeness" is literally a non issue. You want to talk about "rude?" what about the smug, condescending attitude your speaking to me with?

 

[Sooden]

I think they may have got the Stats reward the wrong way around... let me use the FSD range as an example.

First grade is 4%, then it goes up nicely, and at grade 5 you can get 50% (i believe). This its relay the correct way to hand out benefits. 2 main reasons

1) People to want to skip lower modifications as they seem meaningless, so low mods become something you have to do for no reason. 100% time sink

2) you should be rewarding people a fair amount for the effort of unlocking and engineer in the first place, then add a more gradual increase per grade.

So, the FSD should have been a bit more like this;
Grade 1; 15-25% (no side affect)
Grade 2; 25-35% (some side effect, mainly negative)
Grade 3; 35-43% (mixed side affects)
Grade 4; 43-47% (mainly positive)
Grade 5; 47-50% (positive)

This gives casual player access to something meaningful while allowing people willing to grind hours and hours and advantage in the higher grades (and not an overwhelming advantage just for time spent). But I guess it to late to fix now.
So really.. one of the main issue could be fix or at least softened out by having the correct stat curve