Stop that! ... It's getting silly.

Makya

Makya
boxxedin said:
How about letting players choose their own difficulty level? How about increasing payouts/rewards with increasing difficulty levels?

Those who don't want to constantly fight can choose a low difficulty level and those who want a challenge every time they encounter an NPC can choose a higher difficulty level. Blizzard did this decades ago with Diablo, with further refinement in Diablo 3.

Would it be a pain to program in difficulty levels? Maybe. Would it quiet everyone's      ing? Probably.
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I think that Frontier is trying to achieve that at least with the mission system where the missions are ranked not rank gated. Pick an elite mission and be prepared for some elite npcs. I don't think it's quite working right but it seems to be the intent.

I'm not much for combat myself but I don't see the need to fall back on the AI. Frontier should have seen it coming with giving mods to npcs when it would take some time for most players to get there but they fixed that fairly quickly.

Interdictions just need some tuning in terms of the frequency and npc rank. I think I'm seeing way too many elite pirates when my combat rank is competent and I have no missions or cargo except for a few reward commodities but it's not hard to deal with them without their mods.
 

Comrade Napoleon

Comrade Napoleon
This thread is silly beyond silly. It is a complete waste of time due to sillyness and turnips. Please stop this right now.
Of to watch Monty Python, instead of playing silly game or reading silly forum.

Cheers Cmdr's
 

fennster

fennster
TheDayman said:
Technically, you were breathing water for about 9 months. And according to "The Abyss", you could do it again, although that's probably not true under any circumstance. However, I would not ever, EVER recommend a turnip.
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Nobody ever breathed water...

You had oxygen feed through your mother's bloodstream, via umbilical. There is a very primal system that stops you swallowing water, i.e. nobody has ever drowned, ever, in documation. You suffocate first.

One thing I will agree on is, you can not breath a turnip.
 

Luniticisi

Luniticisi
Comrade Napoleon said:
This thread is silly beyond silly. It is a complete waste of time due to sillyness and turnips. Please stop this right now.
Of to watch Monty Python, instead of playing silly game or reading silly forum.

Cheers Cmdr's
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A communist pig calling my thread silly? ... that's just silly ... and turnips are a staple for pigs ... go figure :D
 

TheDayman

TheDayman
fennster said:
Nobody ever breathed water...

You had oxygen feed through your mother's bloodstream, via umbilical. There is a very primal system that stops you swallowing water, i.e. nobody has ever drowned, ever, in documation. You suffocate first.

One thing I will agree on is, you can not breath a turnip.
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What do you think I am man, a doctor?!?! Jeez, don't you know I get all my medical advice from American TV and movies? If it's on TV, it must be true.
 

Crazy Jedi

Crazy Jedi
Arry said:
No, they are beat-roots with the colour taken out.
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Just don't beat your root in public... It is frowned upon by the local constabulary

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TheDayman said:
What do you think I am man, a doctor?!?! Jeez, don't you know I get all my medical advice from American TV and movies? If it's on TV, it must be true.
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I hear that brother
 
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Saxual

S
You know, I hate to quote the guy because of his antics but goldfarb said it right when he took over as lead dev for the payday 2 crew " you gotta break a few y eggs to make something truly amazing". Granted. I understand where the fuss is coming from being a larg ship pilot for nearly the last year. yes it does suck that nearly all of my work has been marginalized.. Truthfully it's kinda shoddy. But, if it's to make the game less of a grind fest and to make it into more of a fun expierence then I support the movement whole heartedly. That being said build diversity. time         now! Not everyone is a top guy ace space maverick some just don't have the reflexes for that and it needs to be addressed. Also +1 turnip
 

JuicerPrime

JuicerPrime
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Sod turnips! :B
 

halo jones 101

halo jones 101
Luniticisi said:
I feel for FD, I really do .. they try something and half the community lose their turnips! ... if they respond and address these new complaints the other half the community will lose their turnips!

What are they supposed to do ?

So the NPC's are improved, nothing new there .. FD (SJA MoM) have always said they were going to improve (they have always been rubbish/too easy) ... but people have lost their turnips ! some going as far to say that the game is ruined !

So what's the solution, bring the NPC's back into line .. people will once again lose their turnips.

Some people don't like 'The Engineers' as an update ... ok, fair enough .. I don't like wings, power-play or community goals and I know I wont like Multi-crew .. there are loads of additions in the engineers which to me make it the best update so far (excluding the engineers themselves, although so far I have no problem with them)

People are completely welcome to their views, and I respect them .. but this update has been out for a very short time and I am sure FD are seriously looking into these 'issues'

But the Big problem is .. no matter what FD do .. people will lose their turnips and they cannot win.

So for me, I hope FD stick to their vision .. ignore the turnip losing .. whilst still taking constructive criticism from the community, but if that criticism doesn't match their vision, ignore it and build the game as they see fit..

If some people don't like it, it's not a problem ... I don't buy every single game available and then moan that I don't like it on said games forums.. I hate Civ 5 .. one of the biggest wastes of money I have ever spent and I don't even know if they have a forum ! let alone going over there and moaning.

I brought a game that wasn't to my taste and I thought, my fault.

Be patient, see where FD takes us and stop losing your turnips !

It's silly

carry on!
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Absolutely, I 100% agree with your post, sadly there is an element that inhabits every game type that buy into a game type, that is not as they imagined it to be regardless of the many sources of information official and otherwise, about the game and likely development future, but then demand a variety of changes regardless, it is like buying a chess board and then complaining that you cannot play monopoly with it...
 

Sunleader

Sunleader
Luniticisi said:
Highlighted: yes I know it was my fault, I said so .. I listened to reviews claiming it was awesome'o ... it wasn't .. my fault completely .. never listen to reviews as they are always biased.

Secondly, if interdiction's are over the top, then I am sure FD will fix the rate at which they happen pretty soon. but NPC's needed improving, and I think that a large percentage of people are still hanging on to the Bug which gave the NPC's over powered weapons.
They aren't that bad at all .. now if people are complaining that now the highest ranked NPC's are tough, they should be (tough, not people complaining) .. if the frequency that people experience these 'tough' NPC's is too high I am sure FD will fix that too ... the sky isn't falling, it's just going through a transition.
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I just now Took on a Novice Ranked Trade Mission to Get 12 Beryllium and Bring them to the Station.
On my Way Out I got Attacked by a Viper.
On my Way Back I got Attacked by 2 Vultures. (each alone)
So I got Interdicted 3 Times on a         Novice Ranked Trade Mission.

And not by Eagles or other Low Ranked NPCs which would make Sense on a Novice Ranked Mission.
But by        g MK4 Viper and 2 Vultures.....



Thats all I am going to say to this.
FD Messed Up. As Simple as that.

They listened to the Fighters Community Crying. And then they Changed the Gameworld into an SpaceShooter which does not allow anyone but Combat Players to actually Play.



And yes.
I hope they Fix it.
And they Better do it Fast.

Because alot of Players Unfortunately dont come Back if they are Leaving out of Frustration.
 

Argus Leadhead

Argus Leadhead
boxxedin said:
How about letting players choose their own difficulty level? How about increasing payouts/rewards with increasing difficulty levels?

Those who don't want to constantly fight can choose a low difficulty level and those who want a challenge every time they encounter an NPC can choose a higher difficulty level. Blizzard did this decades ago with Diablo, with further refinement in Diablo 3.

Would it be a pain to program in difficulty levels? Maybe. Would it quiet everyone's      ing? Probably.
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There kind of is that already: system security level. High security is much safer with much faster police response times, affording newer/non-combat players a higher survivability rate. Medium, low, and anarchy systems are all more dangerous and offer a higher chance to become space dust proportional to the systems security rating.

This information is found in the system map. Personally, I think it should be a filter in the galaxy map so you don't have to go to the system map every time. Someone suggested that if you didn't have the system data, it shouldn't show on the gal-map until said system is scanned. That makes sense to me.
 

Farso Latido

Farso Latido
It's threads like this that just spool it for the hole community. I've just spent six hours trying to find turnips, using what I though was a legit source, only to find absolutely no turnips. Disgraceful.

Seriously though, I tried the new update last night and I just want to play more. It's better. Haven't been mashed up by the game yet, but I look forward to that.
 

srfrogg23

S
Luniticisi said:
I feel for FD, I really do .. they try something and half the community lose their turnips! ... if they respond and address these new complaints the other half the community will lose their turnips!

What are they supposed to do ?

So the NPC's are improved, nothing new there .. FD (SJA MoM) have always said they were going to improve (they have always been rubbish/too easy) ... but people have lost their turnips ! some going as far to say that the game is ruined !

So what's the solution, bring the NPC's back into line .. people will once again lose their turnips.

Some people don't like 'The Engineers' as an update ... ok, fair enough .. I don't like wings, power-play or community goals and I know I wont like Multi-crew .. there are loads of additions in the engineers which to me make it the best update so far (excluding the engineers themselves, although so far I have no problem with them)

People are completely welcome to their views, and I respect them .. but this update has been out for a very short time and I am sure FD are seriously looking into these 'issues'

But the Big problem is .. no matter what FD do .. people will lose their turnips and they cannot win.

So for me, I hope FD stick to their vision .. ignore the turnip losing .. whilst still taking constructive criticism from the community, but if that criticism doesn't match their vision, ignore it and build the game as they see fit..

If some people don't like it, it's not a problem ... I don't buy every single game available and then moan that I don't like it on said games forums.. I hate Civ 5 .. one of the biggest wastes of money I have ever spent and I don't even know if they have a forum ! let alone going over there and moaning.

I brought a game that wasn't to my taste and I thought, my fault.

Be patient, see where FD takes us and stop losing your turnips !

It's silly

carry on!
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I never had turnips to begin with, so...
 

Crazy Jedi

Crazy Jedi
Sunleader said:
I just now Took on a Novice Ranked Trade Mission to Get 12 Beryllium and Bring them to the Station.
On my Way Out I got Attacked by a Viper.
On my Way Back I got Attacked by 2 Vultures. (each alone)
So I got Interdicted 3 Times on a Novice Ranked Trade Mission.

And not by Eagles or other Low Ranked NPCs which would make Sense on a Novice Ranked Mission.
But by g MK4 Viper and 2 Vultures.....



Thats all I am going to say to this.
FD Messed Up. As Simple as that.

They listened to the Fighters Community Crying. And then they Changed the Gameworld into an SpaceShooter which does not allow anyone but Combat Players to actually Play.



And yes.
I hope they Fix it.
And they Better do it Fast.

Because alot of Players Unfortunately dont come Back if they are Leaving out of Frustration.
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To be honest ed was never meant to be a shooter else why all the other ship types that have always been in it ?
The npc AI has been a weak point for an age but let's not wreck the rest of the game to improve the combat experience...
 
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jasonbarron

jasonbarron
Can anyone point me in the direction of Specialized Legacy Turnip? I'm crazy loaded with Cracked Consumer Turnips, but I really REALLY need the Specialized ones for a turnip soup I'm making that I have almost (but not quite) enough of the correct ingredients for:)
 
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