UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn

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I just question why the UA is poitning at Merope. Like. WHY? I mean I dont think it makes sense. I think were missing a peace of the puzzle... but what? Maybe we ALL need to find an unknown probe. or at least help look for one.

Are we certain that the term unknown probe is not just a new 2.1 name for the unknown artifact? Are they separate items in the commodity list?
 
Are we certain that the term unknown probe is not just a new 2.1 name for the unknown artifact? Are they separate items in the commodity list?

Yeah they are. If you sell one its called "Unknown Artefact" and still is. But they are now legal since everyone wants one basicly...
 
Are we certain that the term unknown probe is not just a new 2.1 name for the unknown artifact? Are they separate items in the commodity list?
No, I dont think we are sure. AFAIK UA are not illegal anywhere (apart from being stolen), and we have never had a UP to sell, so there is no list of terms where both are listed.

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Yeah they are. If you sell one its called "Unknown Artefact" and still is. But they are now legal since everyone wants one basicly...
You are assuming that the legal list is using the same list of names as Black Market.

Someone could raise a Bug report that the UA is incorrectly listed as UP and see if they take it or say "not a bug"
 
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I only saw one Threat 4 SS so far, but I got interdicted by an NPC before I could enter it and failed to evade the interdiction.
Has anyone else seen threat 4 convoys, and if so, what were they like?

Have seen two. Didn't have a cargo scanner for the first, had one for the second but failed to hit record on shadowplay (selfLART!). IIRC, Federation systems in the bubble, federal navy ships, vanguard of four medium combat craft (Cobra Mk III/IV or Viper MK III/IV) followed by a main group of three Type 9 with two Anacondas as close escort. No rear guard visible with A rated sensors in a Cobra Mk III. No comms chatter. Type 9s were carrying occupied escape pods and some other stuff, but nothing labeled as unknown artifact, unknown probe, or unknown whatever. The Anacondas were empty.

Currently still on Merope 5C making Barnacles fly, will probably head back to Maia to pick up a KWS and CS again (stripped for range before heading down here), make more screenshots of "landing" on Maia B (bad physics bug there, FD), finally go looking at an UA, and then go convoy hunting. Hopefully, with brain and SP running this time.
 
now that the UA is trending topic here, I was thinking the other day about this:
- why/what makes UA not degrade when dropped from a SRV.. if it were a bug, it would have been fixed already..
- as we know UAs scan the ship and send the info to XXX.. when droping a UA in Merope the system, do they send this info to the star??
- the "whatever" it is the UA fires when blowing up.. were does it stop? does it reach Merope? do we have to blow up thousands to trigger something in Merope?
- why does it say threat 4, for @#! sake!
 
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You are assuming that the legal list is using the same list of names as Black Market.

Someone could raise a Bug report that the UA is incorrectly listed as UP and see if they take it or say "not a bug"
I'm fairly certain that the Unknown probes are new. After all, the illegal commodity list is generated, so it's not a typo. Also, don't forget that UA-s are flagged as stolen, which is why they'll count as illicit cargo. The bug report you say has already been filed by someone, see here. No reply to it so far.

- why does it say threat 4, for @#! sake!
Well, it's an anomaly. Makes sense that the ship's computer would classify the highest threat level to something it can't make any sense of.
 
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...it's great that the California Nebula has finally given up a couple of Barnacles. For me, this is enough to say that the UAs and Barnacles are i extricably linked somehow, I'm just not convinced that they're 'the same'.

My tinfoil take on that link is that just as the barnacles are genetically modified from an earlier form, the UAs are bioengineered from the same genetic stock (and perhaps something else). That would explain the several coincidental attributes such as fireflies, sounds, patterns (green lights and 'Mayan' markings) and so on. The UAs are a more refined and complex bioengineered tool for a different purpose, built from the same biological palette by the same hand IMO

The barnacles are in Merope because conditions are right for them there. The UAs point there from their shell for some other reason that we need to find.
 
Do the unknown fragments have a use?

Palin wants them. That's it for now.

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now that the UA is trending topic here, I was thinking the other day about this:
- why/what makes UA not degrade when dropped from a SRV.. if it were a bug, it would have been fixed already..

This is not UA spesific. It's the same for all cargo.
 
Palin wants them. That's it for now.
Yeah. He's quite the bloodthirsty scientist. After all, he could ask for the artefacts themselves, to study them, but nooo. You can't sell them to him intact. He's not interested, all he wants are their fragments. Who knows what he does with his trophies?
 
No, I dont think we are sure. AFAIK UA are not illegal anywhere (apart from being stolen), and we have never had a UP to sell, so there is no list of terms where both are listed.

The thing is they are very probe like, what with their scanning our ships and their being arranged in a shell around a nebula containing barnacles near human space. It's almost as if they are monitoring traffic in and out the pleiades... maybe to see how we are behaving with the barnacles...

It's been two weeks since engineers was released I hope FD throw us a bone soon, official galactic news has been very thin on the ground of late. Jaques? Halsey? Unknown fragments? Impatience much?

*chomps at bit*
 
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Not sure how much from lore or previous canon anyone can take when it comes to Thargoids and Elite Dangerous. It seems Elite Dangerous is operating under the guise that aliens (thargoids) haven't ever been interacted with - which would be completely counter to existing lore. I mean hell, Thargoids and deep study of their technology predates the creation of the Anaconda (450 years ago to current game time).

I think pretty much everything about them is up for grabs except probably their general ship design shapes.
 
Just found some AI Relics in HR 3007 in a threat three degraded emissions uss. Just as I was about to scoop 8 ships warped in and opened fire. I scooped it, panicked, boosted, failed to retract cargo scoop... and died in under ten seconds. I like the new missile sound effects anyway...
 

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Not sure how much from lore or previous canon anyone can take when it comes to Thargoids and Elite Dangerous. It seems Elite Dangerous is operating under the guise that aliens (thargoids) haven't ever been interacted with - which would be completely counter to existing lore. I mean hell, Thargoids and deep study of their technology predates the creation of the Anaconda (450 years ago to current game time).

I think pretty much everything about them is up for grabs except probably their general ship design shapes.

Michael Brookes gave an interview to a fan livestream (I think it was called DJ Truthsayer if I remember correctly) about ED lore.

This was one of the questions that was asked. He kind of explained that the Thargoid incidents in the past did happen, and they have not been written out of lore. I think he said that those events were very long ago and confined to quite a small part of the bubble, so a lot of people see them more like a legend or rumour of past times that is long fortgotten, to the point that many people don't think they ever happened at all.
 
Yeah. He's quite the bloodthirsty scientist. After all, he could ask for the artefacts themselves, to study them, but nooo. You can't sell them to him intact. He's not interested, all he wants are their fragments. Who knows what he does with his trophies?


He's making himself a throne ready for when Thargoid heads become available to adorn it.
 
Michael Brookes gave an interview to a fan livestream (I think it was called DJ Truthsayer if I remember correctly) about ED lore.

This was one of the questions that was asked. He kind of explained that the Thargoid incidents in the past did happen, and they have not been written out of lore. I think he said that those events were very long ago and confined to quite a small part of the bubble, so a lot of people see them more like a legend or rumour of past times that is long fortgotten, to the point that many people don't think they ever happened at all.

That's quite a big departure from what has been written and shown in the games. Basically rewrites everything as it was hardly small scale stuff that happened and it was only 450 years ago - still in a time of digital record keeping so I would not buy the whole "nobody believes that stuff it's legend" type of experience you used to be able to have when records were second, third, 4th hand and always passed through a human for interpretation.

Nothing is forgotten when everything is saved somewhere. Just ask Google how it's doing with it's forced forgetfulness that the EU is trying to enforce on them.

Retconning is the name of this game so whatever story they come up with, I hope it's better than that.
 
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