Somehow this Avatar feels lime i have seen it before.
Just cant recall where it was from......
UAs, Barnacles & More Thread 6 - The Canonn
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Somehow this Avatar feels lime i have seen it before.
Just cant recall where it was from......
In fact, that open cluster most likely formed from what was once part of the nebula so many millions of years ago and is now a star cluster next to the nebula.
I'd like to say a heart-felt 'thank you' to the mods who patrol this thread for posts which relate to data-mining the game, which ruins the immersion level for the rest of us scientists. Extremely quick response times and removal; pro job folks.
I'm actually surprised at the amount of over-reacting going on here. I'm completely new and this is a practice very much as old as online games themselves. Scientists should use all the tools available at their disposal, and if you can't figure that maybe these forums and our computers that play the game can't be part of the lore too, you have no imagination. [down]
But you're not using all the tools available to you as a scientist in the galaxy of Elite - you're using the tools available to you as someone willing to cheat in 2016. You've broken the fourth wall
Sorry but my imagination of this game isn't that i'm some dude playing a game about being a space pilot, it's that i'm being a space pilot. He has no CTRL-ALT-DEL, no process spy, no game files to browse.
You have to realise this is a bit different from other online games by now? Anyhow - science the hell out of things but In Game
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you can't justify a discovery that is not a discovery but a file finding. scientifics don't work poking others, they do science.
While I agree that Scientists should use all tools available, I personally feel that data-mining a game is more-or-less cheating. What value would science have if it could immediately be discovered, free of charge, without any consequence or effort? I'm certain scientists of real life would look into the 'game files of life', so to speak, if they could - and I agree that you're right there. However, here, more value is placed on in-game discovery than peering into the game files for something we may have missed. I'm not saying your contributions aren't welcome here, please feel free to join our scientific effort - just please respect the confines of in-game methods only, for the immersion factor.
A game is meant to be played. Rummaging through the game files looking for the answers defeats this purpose. It is you who has no imagination, you should not have to resort to cheating to find the answers. Anyway, Frontier have no doubt put fake files in place just to throw any would be file cheaters off track, I would do it, and I think they have too. The best analogy I have for this is reading the ending of a book before you read the rest of the book, you can do it if you want but the author intended you to read the book the whole way through, skipping to the end is not only cheating yourself of the story but cheating the author of telling that story to you.
Yeah okay, it's not haxx (although some have tried that).
But by that logic it's okay to read the last chapter of a book and then tell everyone what's in it.
Just because you can doesn't mean you should - and since it's something we can all do, there is no value in telling anyone what's there. There's no achievement, no effort, no logic applied - just clicking folders and files in windows explorer.
It's a slippery slope, too: poking folders and files today; PEEKing memory tomorrow; POKEing menory the day after, all justified with the 'I'm just using the tools at my disposal' defence. Or: cheating. Cheating yourself and everyone else.
This isn't the Kobayashi Maru.
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i know that stars clusters are a normal happening in the nebulae's nests... but this one has something of strange.
since you won't listen to my advice to look by yourself on the map, i will post a video tomorrow.
You talking about how they line up?
I assume that's due to them being positioned manually based on actual observational data, which can sometimes group up stars of similar observed magnitude like this as it's hard to tell exact distances.
(Note: they appear to be properly distributed when viewed from earth.)
It's a design oversight or bug, nothing more.
Edit: Also, all of these stars are actual stars recorded in the SIMBAD database. Any message hidden in their positioning would be due to aliens in real life, not in-game.
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Just my pennys.
You want to look at game files Fine.
I don't.
So don't tell me about them on this thread.
Thank you
You want to look at game files Fine.
I don't.
So don't tell me about them on this thread.
Thank you
It is all rather confusing now
I thought Hyperspace was witch space.
I am not sure it is any more and the two places are different.
The Manual descripted the FSD as compressing space, and Jumps between systems as SUPER COMPRESSION
Manual page 62 said:
manual page 76 said:
Not jumping through ether hyperspace or Witch space
However one of the data packets you get from scanning High Energy Wakes is "Eccentric Hyperspace Trajectories" which talks about traversing Hyperspace as if it is another dimension, not just a colloquially expression.
Also now we have the change that originally Capital ships and Stations were said to have the old Generation 2 jump drives, as they were too big for frame shift drives, but now we have then as having FSD but too big for Supercuise only, with the arrival and exit clouds being a side effect of the size and power of the Frame shift drive and not Hyperspace entry and exit clouds ala FE2 & FFE
So it is both unclear if FSD enter Hyperspace as the "Eccentric Hyperspace Trajectories" suggest or just compress real space even for jumps as the manual page 74 suggests.
And if Hyperspace, if it is still used, is the same thing as witch space, as it originally seemed witch space was the name given to Hyperspace by the superstitious Cmdrs who saw things in it and how it was a dangerous mind bending alternative reality.
I don't mind what the official canon is now but so long as we get clarification on what is what now.
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Guys MB 100% confirmed that Hyperspace is the same thing as WitchSpace. People just started calling it Witchspace cause of the strange things about it.
This.
I'm a software developer in my day job, so I know all about "That kinda stuff". I was also one of the first (technically not the first, mind you) to claim the UA's emitted morse. I did a tonne of analytics to pull apart listen to and pull apart the signal and build the morse alphabet.
Reason I mention this isn't to blow my own trumpet, but to demostrate how it would be absolutely trivial for me to create a list of, say, planetary POIs in the game and mark them off against game files, producing a list of all the different things in the game and shooting down any claims of "Maybe we need to be looking for some ultra-rare POI in some distant galaxy" when we've already discovered all possible locations.
On top of this, it's incredibly common to pre-position assets in games which aren't actually in the game. There was a post somewhere else that there's already placeholder materials in game files for "Different Ship Types"*. But those "Different Ship Types" actually aren't in the game. So to do any sort of analysis of ingame stuff based on game datafiles is fraught, because some things simply won't be in the game.
Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
* "Different Ship Types" have names, but for the sake of potential spoilers and based on how those were obtained, I'm not repeating them.
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