No.
Depression is like many other habits, they take control of your life. They sap your will. They leave you feeling helpless and vulnerable.
Take control. Decide to be happy.
Then spend the rest of your life discovering what happiness really is.
General / Off-Topic Do you suffer from depression?
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No.
Depression is like many other habits, they take control of your life. They sap your will. They leave you feeling helpless and vulnerable.
Take control. Decide to be happy.
Then spend the rest of your life discovering what happiness really is.
Available evidence refutes your claim. This bravado is a whole lot of hogwash and with certainty you are talking out your backside which is a rather irresponsible thing to do with a subject of this nature. Where did you come up with that anyway, the back of a coffee mug? You really ought to have at least a smidge of actual knowledge before talking about mental illness.
Here's a little bit of actual information for you to dip your toes in:
http://www.suicide.org/people-with-depression-cannot-snap-out-of-it.html
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No. You are idealistic. Imagine a person who has lost his wife and children in a car accident. Or a person with an incurable cancer. Or a person who becomes handicaped. Or a person who loses his job, his house, his money, his friends. or etc ... You believe that it is sufficient to decide to be happy ? A depression is something of much much more complex than you do not control. A depression is not a habit. It is a disease
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Yes.
Its been hard , but video games and lore and in recent times my fiancee keep me alive.
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If it was that easy I would not be on meds.
Yaffle
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No, this is not how it works. A person may feel 'down' because of a sad event. Depression is a significant problem that is often well beyond the control of the sufferer.
This may help, if you can see the similarity:
No, these are example of reactive depression. A completely different syndrome characterised by sadness. Perfectly normal.
The depression I am referring to is long term depression with no apparent cause. It interferes with relationships and general functioning. In that, it is not normal.
I'm sorry, but I really do know what I'm taking about here.
If you have a long term depression, take control of your own life. It doesn't mean you'll suddenly be happy or your problems will disappear. No-body is happy all the time, or even most of it and everone had problems. Taking control means you are better able to deal with problems and to function as a human.
If you're on meds then for goodness sake continue taking them.
I have been in depresion from around the age of 13 , maybe younger its hard to tell.
It only got worst over years and I would hold on to anything , I tried to be positive and I would smile every day. but it was a false smile , over time trying to be happy given the sitations in my life just was to much and if I did not take meds when I was 16 I would just break down in tears and shout.
Today I am 23 still suffer , if I dont take meds I dont suffer the same , I have intense nightmares every night and flashbacks and suffer from (I hate this term) trigger words or rather topics. (like making fun of geek culture or school and sucess)
I take my meds and I am fine , I can function without them but there could be a negative side effect.
Of course I have other problemes on top of the depresion (mental issues) and I think they are in a lot of ways related.
Anyway , I dont want to be rude , but I feel that telling anyone they can ''just" get better by being happy makes things worst. but thats just me
Yaffle
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I'd rather go with the collective wisdom of psychologists, biochemists, neuroscience and psychiatrists.
And that demonstrates the perception problem. What if you CAN'T take control. On bad days depression will stop you getting out of bed, or washing, or doing anything but sit. Thoughts not so much of suicide but not seeing the point of existing creep in. You can't just 'take control' when you have clinical depression. It's not a homogeneous thing like having a cold - we can pretty much treat everyone in the same way there. Its causes are subtle, varied and complex. It's a mixture of background, genes, brain chemistry, experiences, diet, and I am sure other things. Just saying 'snap out of it' might work for the odd person, but is not a cure-all.
I agree with Privata, i myself have been on and off my medication for a while now, my reasons for being depressed are not even due to any kind of tragic event , in fact i have had life pretty easy (speaking only for myself) but rather it comes from a culmination of mental and social issues from a very young age and i can tell you for a fact that it's not something that can be controlled just by waking up and saying "im going to take control", it's been tried. Right now i'm feeling quite good considering i''m not on my medication (which was having negative side effects), but in one hour i might be low as you can go for no obvious reason. Also, of course long term depression is not normal, it's a mental disorder, i don't wake up wanting to feel depressed, i wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy, if i could just feel happy, i would.
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On a more positive note, i will now try to be happy by watching the last leg on ALL4, comedy helps sometimes, i think i speak for other sufferers of depression when i say....we do try to enjoy the little things (and big things) in life. good night guys.
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Yaffle
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I don't know where this will go, but I did stumble across this - http://www.gadgette.com/2016/05/23/echoes-is-an-episodic-game-addressing-mental-health/ which is an interesting development.
Yes it is absurd. It is like people who want to make your happiness in spite of you
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For the final time, I did not say you can just get better or that depression is not serious.
I said and will repeat, the same words of
That things can and will improve when you take control.
Never stop prescribed medication. Ever.
Don't use any recreational drugs, including alcohol.
Stop smoking.
Have a bath as often as you can, preferably daily, unless you are directed otherwise by medically trained people.
It really is quite astonishing and even more telling that so many are having such a negative reaction to the suggestion that they should take control.
This is not a negative reaction. The people try to say that if the depression annihilates the will, it is impossible for the majority of people to take control. It's like if you tell to a dog attached, "Fetches the ball"
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It's super weird that this topic came up. I was going to make one a couple days ago when I was feeling depressed, then figured it wouldn't gain much momentum so I decided against it.
I don't know what I have, but I have bouts of extreme sadness, thinking back on all the people I've cared about that aren't in my life anymore (friends, significant others). I would never self-harm though, or do worse. It's just upset moments, not full on "my life is over I can't take it anymore" moments, no offense to those who get them.
My friends are few and far between, but when I'm around them, laughing and having a good time, all that "depression" fades. Then as soon as they're gone, it comes back. I also have a weird phobia of eventually losing these few friends over some kind of argument or drifting apart or whatever. It keeps me up, thinking to myself that someday this person that means so much to me is going to leave my life and I'll miss them.
Getting myself emotional just by typing this stuff so I'll stop it here.
I don't know what I have, but I have bouts of extreme sadness, thinking back on all the people I've cared about that aren't in my life anymore (friends, significant others). I would never self-harm though, or do worse. It's just upset moments, not full on "my life is over I can't take it anymore" moments, no offense to those who get them.
My friends are few and far between, but when I'm around them, laughing and having a good time, all that "depression" fades. Then as soon as they're gone, it comes back. I also have a weird phobia of eventually losing these few friends over some kind of argument or drifting apart or whatever. It keeps me up, thinking to myself that someday this person that means so much to me is going to leave my life and I'll miss them.
Getting myself emotional just by typing this stuff so I'll stop it here.
I also think that the capitalistic approach and the more and more slavery like work conditions are increasing burn out rates and depression a lot. This might even become the #1 reason for depressions in our western society.
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Ian Phillips
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I also think that the 24/7 availability/work environment that is now seemingly required is a major factor.
In Holland there is the same effect as Patrick_68000 describes for France. Lots of stress, lots of burn-outs.
Colleagues often express amazement/disbelief when I tell then I turn my work phone off after work!
In Holland there is the same effect as Patrick_68000 describes for France. Lots of stress, lots of burn-outs.
Colleagues often express amazement/disbelief when I tell then I turn my work phone off after work!