General / Off-Topic EU Referendum (UK only) - to Brexit or not to Brexit

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain

    Votes: 155 50.2%
  • Leave

    Votes: 154 49.8%

  • Total voters
    309
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Yes, there will be some economic consequences. But on the long term not so much. Its ALWAYS about the money first, they will make it look like its something tough and boast in their countries 'look how tough these new deals are with Britain'. While silently behind the scenes they will make sure that its business as usual, in the long term [money]

It's more about saving face than making business as usual.
 
Okay, last one. I couldn't resist ;)

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the UK leaving the EU sooner rather than later would not be good for the UK because of uncertainty.

If we leave fast, the Eu settles down, and the UK stays uncertain. This means the Eu recovers and grows and the Uk bounces and falls against the EU, and all the horror stories come true.

Untill the UK has made some trade deals in concept, for when its out of the EU, leave it is not wise.

yes its a bit like the UK saying... if we'er going down, your coming down with us. Its the only bargaining tool we have at this point

Give me one good reason why the EU should let you do that.
 
Some? Just the today hit is going to take a decade to recover. And its Very far from over. There will be no such thing as long term. if you don't think in more than in half century. Can you wait this much?

Yeah, markets are volatile atm. Thats because of the uncertainty what will happen next. Thats why EU wants Britain to hand their resignation as soon as possible. But as fast as markets (and pound) can go down it can also recover. This situation will not last for long, that is, unless Britain wants to delay things.
 

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the UK leaving the EU sooner rather than later would not be good for the UK because of uncertainty.

If we leave fast, the Eu settles down, and the UK stays uncertain. This means the Eu recovers and grows and the Uk bounces and falls against the EU, and all the horror stories come true.

Yes, the problem is if UK leaves than the EU need to look his own interests.

its a bit like the UK saying... if we'er going down, your coming down with us. Its the only bargaining tool we have at this point

Crash course? Who wins, Who walks away? The greater mass / better shape. And since the UK is banged up just after one day? No chance to win, and neither to survive such game.
 
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The only reason Cameron resigned in my eyes is that he no longer can use the EU as a excuse for failed leadership. Now we can get a leader that can lead a independent country and not be a mouthpiece of another country.
He left because he cannot be bothered to clean up his own mess.
 
Yeah, markets are volatile atm. Thats because of the uncertainty what will happen next. Thats why EU wants Britain to hand their resignation as soon as possible. But as fast as markets (and pound) can go down it can also recover. This situation will not last for long, that is, unless Britain wants to delay things.

UK won't hand that resignation in quick, it is their big stick to get what they want.
 
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Give me one good reason why the EU should let you do that.

if i was on the EU side i would want to kick the UK out as fast as i can, i can see both sides, but just saying what best for the UK, being from the UK.

and this time, their law and regulations may just bite them in the butt :p

The referendum is an internal opinion vote for the UK, with no legal standing in the EU and action it should take. But the EU, rightly so, is going to try and force the exit to get a better deal for the EU.

There are no goodies or baddies here... i think :p .. maybe we all just baddies, doing the best we can.
 
I don't. People are not xenophobic. In contrast to the 1930ies, they cooperate with each other and the whole world. No way they would give up all this, from tourism to culture over working together in business and academia just out of a sense of "revenge", because the population rejected a stupid political entity (the EU).

That's how the politicians think, because they are stuck in ancient mindsets and love their petty bickering with each other. But when it threatens to get serious, the population would reign them in.

Yes and Trump is a lovely person without any inferiority complexes and by the way he "loves mexicans".
You dont have to be politician to see the rise of the racists in Europe, USA, Ukraine, Russia and elsewere.
The ancient world before the christianisation was much more tolerant towards the foreigners.
The problem is that people always blame the weak for their suffering, because its easier.
 
if i was on the EU side i would want to kick the UK out as fast as i can, i can see both sides, but just saying what best for the UK, being from the UK.

and this time, their law and regulations may just bite them in the butt :p

The referendum is an internal opinion vote for the UK, with no legal standing in the EU and action it should take. But the EU, rightly so, is going to try and force the exit to get a better deal for the EU.

There are no goodies or baddies here... i think :p .. maybe we all just baddies, doing the best we can.

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Laws and regulations can be bent in times of emergency, I'm sure the EU has some paragraphs about that in exact those laws and regulations. :)

Tbh, I would support it if the EU kicks out the UK without leave negotiations. Simply because I don't want to suffer because you made a dumb decision. :)
 
In the end, yeah. Not at the moment. At the moment it's all about saving face and statuating an example on the UK :)

... which will be later watered down and sweeped under the rug ;). Its good that frontier has this new procedural character creation system, i suppose it could be used to create infinite amount of new politician faces for EU and Britain too :D
 
If the EU do not behave and respect the result, then we should make certain Holland, France and Denmark have their referendums, while we drag out a deal, to cause maximum destruction on Brussels.
 
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