General / Off-Topic EU Referendum (UK only) - to Brexit or not to Brexit

[SeeZaa]

Common sense and Democracy prevailed

And as a Scotsman, I shall fight with all my strength against any rejoining of the EU by Scotland. I specifically voted Brexit.

same here.. aside from the massive expense, nicola seems to be forgetting (well, ignoring) that it was a Scottish referendum that voted 55% against independence in 2014. now when we consider that only 67% of us Scots decided to vote yesterday.. against 85% in 2014.. it is pretty clear which was a more important topic for Scotland.

ScotPop 2014 ~5,347,000 VoteReferendum ~4,545,000

Stay@55% ~2,500,000 Leave@45% ~2,045,000

ScotPop 2016 ~5,422,000 VoteReferendum ~3,633,000

Stay@62% ~2,252,000 Leave@38% ~1,381,000

i much prefer simple numbers over opinion, and i totally understand the validity of requesting another referendum.. things have indeed changed considerably.. but validity and common sense are very different creatures.. and if the eu thing was as important to us Scots, as she is trying to make out, why did ~1,000,000 less of us turn out yesterday?!

 

[Fyrd Judge]

Do You realized Ireland and Scotland are already decided to quit, and London want to became a sovereign nation too? Not to mention Gibraltar. The only way to stop this, to remain.
The UK are also warned about this. as a consequence, but you quitter, are not belíved it. Here are the consequences of getting drunk with the of the quitters. And now tell me, how much chance the UK have to hold Falkland, in a middle of this political turmoil?

This is an ugly hangover, and its only going to gets even worst.

And tell me, how much chance the UK have to do any harm against EU in such state of political chaos and uncertainty? No inside unity, no political stability, and the economy is already damaged.

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do you meant your side.

None of this will happen as UK government has to give permission for voting to happen.

 

[Becks]

Obama was on UK tonight saying he will work out deals and has respected the voters. He has already said on UK TV that the special relations is more important. We also already trade with America, already on many products. It was the US who wanted th eUK in the EU to make these deals with the EU. Now we are out looks like that will not happen for another 10 years.,

“I think it’s fair to say that maybe some point down the line there might be a US-UK trade agreement, but it’s not going to happen any time soon because our focus is in negotiating with a big bloc, the European Union, to get a trade agreement done,” he said at a joint conference with David Cameron in April. “The UK is going to be in the back of the queue.”

So much for that.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...um-uk-us-indispensable-partners-a7101166.html

 

[Minonian]

Obama was on UK tonight saying he will work out deals and has respected the voters. He has already said on UK TV that the special relations is more important. We also already trade with America, already on many products. It was the US who wanted th eUK in the EU to make these deals with the EU. Now we are out looks like that will not happen for another 10 years.,

To say it in human language he is danced back from his words, and the current trade agreement with the USA is not going to do any good, after the losses of EU trade deals, tell me what will going to happen after, the UK industry going to lose overnight all the raw and half made resources, what this far he bought from the other EU states?

Total economical collapse...
Al trough is not going to be this bad, thats nobody interest. But it's going to be pretty bad. bad enough to think this today downgrading as an unreachable dream.

 

[Arconedas]

Anyway, i dont want to stir any anti US sentiments. Its a fact, imo, that were US suddenly pull out of Europe, our restless 'friend' from the east would use the opportunity to get their old borders back and some more.

 

[Minonian]

None of this will happen as UK government has to give permission for voting to happen.

And you think they have a saying about this when everybody wants to leave except the countryside? They don't have any power! they will simply walk away and thats it. War? Not gonna happen. There will be not enough military power left.

 

[Fyrd Judge]

So much for that.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...um-uk-us-indispensable-partners-a7101166.html

You missed his speech on tv he is on his way out we are making deals with the either Trump or clinton now. Obama has taken ten years with the eu and no deal will be made with them within the next 5 years and nothing now until the UK leave.

You do know Obama is leaving right

 

[Becks]

You missed his speech on tv he is on his way out we are making deals with the either Trump or clinton now. Obama has taken ten years with the eu and no deal will be made with them within the next 5 years and nothing now until the UK leave.

You do know Obama is leaving right

You're overestimating your Influence on the US ^^

Anyway, I'm off for the night, sleep well ^^

 

[Fyrd Judge]

You're overestimating your Influence on the US ^^

Anyway, I'm off for the night, sleep well ^^

truth hurts ?

Trump is in the UK now he loves Brexit and has already said we are priority not EU, and it is looking like he will get in.

Clinton also has said we will be priority. WIN WIN

 

[Minonian]

truth hurts ?

Face reality! The quitters, and their politicians the biggest morons this world ever seen! And whoever remaining their side is just out of his mind.

I meant no offense, but this is how its going to go down.

 

[Fyrd Judge]

Face reality! The quitters, and their politicians the biggest morons this world ever seen! And whoever remaining their side is just out of his mind.

I meant no offense, but this is how its going to go down.

Actually if i was in the EU i would be very very worried on other countries now demanding votes, as some are, that will be the sign the EU ending its life.

UK leaving wont destroy the EU, the other countries leaving will. domino effect

 

[Tafmeister]

Looks like you picked the wrong day to quit not visiting the ED forums!

ETA - ninja'd!

Ah right forums to go but wrong topic haha! Oh well, I have beer so I'm all happy as Larry

 

[ianw]

Ah right forums to go but wrong topic haha! Oh well, I have beer so I'm all happy as Larry

It's all good - several beers in here - now on the scotch.

 

[Minonian]

Actually if i was in the EU i would be very very worried on other countries now demanding votes, as some are, that will be the sign the EU ending its life.

UK leaving wont destroy the EU, the other countries leaving will. domino effect

After today it's not going to be happen. The punch UK suffered just in one day, is a clear indicator what leaving means for the poorer and smaller economically more tied up member states. Because as we all know, the UK was half way out from the EU. We don't seen the half of it what quitting can cause a full member.

ELE... Extinction level event.
Even if a referendum going to be hold, the outcome are clear.

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You're overestimating your Influence on the US ^^

Anyway, I'm off for the night, sleep well ^^

For a full EU member quitting is suicide.

 

[Fyrd Judge]

After today it's not going to be happen. The punch UK suffered just in one day, is a clear indicator what leaving means for the poorer and smaller economically more tied up member states. Because as we all know, the UK was half way out from the EU. We don't seen the half of it what quitting can cause a full member.

ELE... Extinction level event.
Even if a referendum going to be hold, the outcome are clear.

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For a full EU member quitting is suicide.

If you look at the whole of EU currency, they all dived and stock exchanges, EU got hit more then the UK on the stock exchange, hence why they want us out fast, they are still diving...lol

Holland, Denmark, France want out because the right wing have said already , EU without the UK is a German dictatorship.

 

[ianw]

Good luck with that Jezz;

https://youtu.be/RS4FDX_uYrk?t=190

 

[Yaffle]

None of this will happen as UK government has to give permission for voting to happen.

UK government is where welsh , scottish MPs dictate to the English, the UK government is not the English government it a representation of all countries.

How does that reconcile? You can't have both.

I'd hate to see the Union fracture, I genuinely believe the UK is better is as one unit, much as I believed we were better in Europe. But, if I were Scottish (I think NI is a bit more complicated) I'd be running for the exit right now given the storm ahead.

 

[Sunleader]

If you look at the whole of EU currency, they all dived and stock exchanges, EU got hit more then the UK on the stock exchange, hence why they want us out fast, they are still diving...lol

Holland, Denmark, France want out because the right wing have said already , EU without the UK is a German dictatorship.

Stocks
British Pound vs US Dollar = Loss 8.9%
Euro vs US Dollar = Loss 2.8%
Euro vs British Pound = Profit 6.8%

I dont know where you got the Funny Idea that the Euro lost more.
But its pretty simply wrong.


Also just so you know.
The NPD (Heir to the NSDAP or Hitlers Party if you so want) Has Today Congratulated UK to their Decision. And now Demands Referendums in Germany....
Just so you know who these Right Wings Are that call the EU an German Dictatorship......

 

[Minonian]

If you look at the whole of EU currency, they all dived and stock exchanges, EU got hit more then the UK on the stock exchange, hence why they want us out fast, they are still diving...lol

Holland, Denmark, France want out because the right wing have said already , EU without the UK is a German dictatorship.

You just repeating yourself.

Besides? I don't know the rest of it, but only 35% of France wants to leave. And before you ask these are fresh results. We will see the others reactions too.

 

[ianw]

You just repeating yourself.

Besides? I don't know the rest of it, but only 35% of France wants to leave. And before you ask these are fresh results. We will see the others reactions too.

So only 35% want out? Tough to be them I guess. Yay for the EU!