General / Off-Topic EU Referendum (UK only) - to Brexit or not to Brexit

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain

    Votes: 155 50.2%
  • Leave

    Votes: 154 49.8%

  • Total voters
    309
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Yup. That's the issue. However? They can still make UK want to leave as fast he can, just by beign an ass. So no, Whenever they decide to leave or stay, i strongly suggest to make it offical as soon they can.

I believe that the UK will submit Article 50 once the new conservative leader is chosen, by which time (Hopefully) the team that will negotiate the exit will be in place and have a plan.
 
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Yaffle

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I believe that the UK will submit Article 50 once the new conservative leader is chosen, by which time (Hopefully) the team that will negotiate the the exit will be in place and have a plan.

This would be the most sensible. We still need the Government to 'ratify' the referendum, which should be a formality. Going against the vote, no matter how wrong it seems to me, would be an affront to democracy.
 
i didn't hear that ('He said that he's biased') maybe i missed it, i know he said he was voting remain, but not that hes bias. you can be on one side based on fact,and not be bias, but i have a feeling he looking at the facts that best suit him :)

to many cases where 'facts' are left out of teaching. you can ignore that statement if you wish because i not going to explain and defend it

I can only advise you to watch the whole vid :) The man knows what he's talking about.

and this is one of the problems, not the only one (and i did watch it all). Passing over the smaller businesses, the people making there own jobs to support their own family.

as a kid, i had a job peeling shrimps, it gave the family coffers a little more cash. you could just set up such a small job on the spot, and then the shrimps would be sold locally, no issues. This would not be allowed anymore :( (just an example)

not everyone in the UK is interested in working on offices, or for 'the boss' and they got stud on because they are the minority.

as more minorites got stud on my the EU, anger grew (Fishing) , silly taxes.

are you saying the smaller businesses should deal with it, and just get one with it? you know, how i said the EU should now 'Suck it up'. if so, well that means the EU (and big bussines UK) is getting a feel for what small bussinesses felt :p

I wasn't too interested in working in an office either when I left school. I joined the military and I can kinda understand the mindset.

But if smaller businesses are damaged it hurts less people than when bigger businesses are damaged. If BMW should decide to stop manufacturing in Britain that'll hurt a lot more than when a start up fails :) (in an economic sense ofc, it would be an disaster for the people involved in both cases)

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This is why Brussels should stop acting like a child throwing a tantrum in a pram. If they think they can bully UK, UK will shock them again by standing their ground, as our history shows we never bow to bullies and so drag this out to the letter of the law of 2 years.

I remember a certain Mr Chamberlain in your history ...
 
This is why Brussels should stop acting like a child throwing a tantrum in a pram. If they think they can bully UK, UK will shock them again by standing their ground, as our history shows we never bow to bullies and so drag this out to the letter of the law of 2 years.

Sigh...
Yep. You entirely Fit the Character Description of an Leave Voter.

Just so you know.
As long as your Government does not Pass the Request to Leave. As well as for these Two Years. You will still be a Full EU Member with all Rights and all Duties. :)
Feel Free to Drag it out for 20 Years if you Want.
Albeit then you could just have Voted to Remain in the First Place. Then your Economy would not Crash on it xD
Your Aggressive and have no Idea what your even talking about.
 
This would be the most sensible. We still need the Government to 'ratify' the referendum, which should be a formality. Going against the vote, no matter how wrong it seems to me, would be an affront to democracy.

Only a government with a deathwish would do that. On the other hand you're ing off the other half of the population with the same step ...
 
This is why Brussels should stop acting like a child throwing a tantrum in a pram. If they think they can bully UK, UK will shock them again by standing their ground, as our history shows we never bow to bullies and so drag this out to the letter of the law of 2 years.

Tantrum.. its about the money, its always about the money, always! I explained in my earlier post why they want this to be over as fast as soon possible, because [money].
 
This would be the most sensible. We still need the Government to 'ratify' the referendum, which should be a formality. Going against the vote, no matter how wrong it seems to me, would be an affront to democracy.

Fully agree, the shocking thing for me though is that David Cameron and the conservatives didn't already have a contingency plan laid out for the possibility of the 'Leave vote' winning.

Frankly it's astonishing - It is very clear to me that David Cameron and the 'Remain' campaign, totally and arrogantly believed that there was no way that they were going to lose .. they were wrong
 
Nobody has anyone 'by the balls' ...

If they force you out, then they have the UK 'by the balls'

They can in 2 years, but their own lawyers will be unable to do it before that , as i previously said, Lisbon treaty prevents them forcing us out within two years. They can try and UK will make aload of cash in the courts off the EU, if the tried.
 
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Minonian

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Sigh...
Yep. You entirely Fit the Character Description of an Leave Voter.

Just so you know.
As long as your Government does not Pass the Request to Leave. As well as for these Two Years. You will still be a Full EU Member with all Rights and all Duties. :)
Feel Free to Drag it out for 20 Years if you Want.
Albeit then you could just have Voted to Remain in the First Place. Then your Economy would not Crash on it xD
Your Aggressive and have no Idea what your even talking about.

:D
They are stupid, and never cease to be.
Nothing helps, nothing works, you cannot change them.
 
They can in 2 years, but their own lawyers will be unable to do it before that , as i previously said, Lisbon treaty prevents them forcing us out within two years. They can try and UK will make aload of cash in the courts off the EU, if the tried.

One simple law change and they can. And the EU courts can simply decline you then.

Wouldn't be the first time that a government or organization bends to law to overcome a crisis.
 

Minonian

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This would be the most sensible. We still need the Government to 'ratify' the referendum, which should be a formality. Going against the vote, no matter how wrong it seems to me, would be an affront to democracy.
What cannot be done THX to Cameron resignation, unless someone can act instead of him, and the government in cases like this, and make the final decision.
 
One simple law change and they can. And the EU courts can simply decline you then.

Wouldn't be the first time that a government or organization bends to law to overcome a crisis.

Again, you have to remember here that to make that one simple law change we'd have to agree as we are still part of the EU until we submit article 50
 

Minonian

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One simple law change and they can. And the EU courts can simply decline you then.

Wouldn't be the first time that a government or organization bends to law to overcome a crisis.
Thats the whole point of governments to manage the nation, what's includes crisis.
 
This is why Brussels should stop acting like a child throwing a tantrum in a pram. If they think they can bully UK, UK will shock them again by standing their ground, as our history shows we never bow to bullies and so drag this out to the letter of the law of 2 years.

I admire your optimism, in seeing this as something that would need to be "dragged out" to 2 years. I see it as more of a mad, panicked scramble to de-couple the UK's economy and legislation from the EU's within 2 years, even if they start today.
 
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