General / Off-Topic EU Referendum (UK only) - to Brexit or not to Brexit

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain

    Votes: 155 50.2%
  • Leave

    Votes: 154 49.8%

  • Total voters
    309
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Minonian

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For the 4th time read the article it says:

The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.


The clue is in the letters that make up words that create sentences. (Ok you may be learning English and i accept you do not understand what it says)
Oh and read that, and understood everything what you said, but im afraid we do not talk about the same thing. Im talking about the trade agreements, and you talking about how the Uk proceed trough quitting.
 
For the 4th time read the article it says:

The Treaties shall cease to apply to the State in question from the date of entry into force of the withdrawal agreement or, failing that, two years after the notification referred to in paragraph 2, unless the European Council, in agreement with the Member State concerned, unanimously decides to extend this period.


The clue is in the letters that make up words that create sentences. (Ok you may be learning English and i accept you do not understand what it says)

Come on, don't get insulting.

The EU parliament can easily over vote you with a change for that article.

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I think the double majority rules mean that things can pass with the UK voting against them.

Here, this. :)
 
This petition seems a bit frivolous, to talk about changing the rules AFTER the first (though I agree in principal that making any drastic with a tiny minority is a bit risky).

But then when you read Farage's comments previously, about a narrow Remain victory:

In a 52-48 referendum this would be unfinished business by a long way. If the remain campaign win two-thirds to one-third that ends it.

it would seem to undermine any objection he'd have to a second vote.

(And for the record: No, I don't think there will be a 2nd referendum).
 
Wrong. :) The threaty is between EU members, if UK quits, than it's loses effects because the conditions are no longer valid...

you do know that the UK referendum was an internal opinion poll with no effect on UK or EU policies?

not the UKs fault if all the greedy stock holders wanna try and get a good deal by playing the markets. they played a game, maybe not remembering we are still a full (and paid up)member of the EU, with the same rights, and nothing in the UK or EU has changed in policies or law.

(yeah, we have paid up, show sum respect EU!, trying to kick us while were down and still in the EU , still one of your members... is this how you treat member that do do what you want?)

But now the EU want to get rid us us fast, so that the people that play with the market dose not F-up the EU. Why should the UK have to take the hit for greedy a-holes trying to cash in on an internal opinion poll.

where is the support from the EU on helping us exit (supporting our panniced market), and setting up deals for when we leave? aren't we still part of the EU... do we lose the right because we want to leave, even though we are paying in still? i think the UK lawyers are gonna have a field-day :p

like said before, markets are news driven, and this news had an effect, but its just news... The UK will take its time tank-you :)
 
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This petition seems a bit frivolous, to talk about changing the rules AFTER the first (though I agree in principal that making any drastic with a tiny minority is a bit risky).

But then when you read Farage's comments previously, about a narrow Remain victory:



it would seem to undermine any objection he'd have to a second vote.

(And for the record: No, I don't think there will be a 2nd referendum).

It is unfinished business, yeah. And the majority can easily shift to the remain side in the coming months.
 
I think the double majority rules mean that things can pass with the UK voting against them.

Agreed, But I personally don't think that any of this will be necessary as, again, I believe that Article 50 will be submitted once the new conservative leader is elected which will be in about three months time.
 
The EU parliament can easily over vote you with a change for that article.

Does not matter now, Germany are calling on EU nations to calm down and allow UK to start talks when they are ready. Like in 1-3 months time. Germany know they sell alot to us and their unions do not want to destroy german Jobs.
 
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Minonian

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This petition seems a bit frivolous, to talk about changing the rules AFTER the first (though I agree in principal that making any drastic with a tiny minority is a bit risky).

But then when you read Farage's comments previously, about a narrow Remain victory:



it would seem to undermine any objection he'd have to a second vote.

(And for the record: No, I don't think there will be a 2nd referendum).

The problem is, if they are collected this much signature this fast it cannot be ignored.
 
We got so used to it in the UK we ignore it. Political Correctness was a 90s thing it's dead now.

It's quite telling when people rail against "political correctness". You are upset that you're not allowed to berate and belittle women, berate and harass sexual minorities and people with different skin colour or other nationalities? Oh yes, what a terrible thing it is having to treat other people with basic decency and getting frowned upon for racist jokes and such. So bad.
 
Does not matter now, Germany are calling on EU nations to calm down and allow UK to start talks when they are ready. Like in 1-3 months time

I thought you want to drag it out for years :p

This economic disaster will not resolve itself in the next months. Probably not even in the next years.
 
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The problem is, if they are collected this much signature this fast it cannot be ignored.

AIUI, it must be discussed once it reached 100,000 signatories. But I don't think it's really binding beyond that.

Incidentally - it's increasing freakishly quickly, about 50-100 new signatures per second at the time I was viewing it.
 
The other fact is, the left wing preach hatred openly to Jews in the UK, they seem to think that is ok. But heh talk about immigration then the left wing accuse you of a racist . LOL WORK THAT OUT

Oh yes, and this one too. Of course any critique of the occupation and subjugation of the Palestinian people is "hatred of the Jews". Naturally.
 
It's quite telling when people rail against "political correctness". You are upset that you're not allowed to berate and belittle women, berate and harass sexual minorities and people with different skin colour or other nationalities? Oh yes, what a terrible thing it is having to treat other people with basic decency and getting frowned upon for racist jokes and such. So bad.

Muslim grooming gangs were operating in cities in the UK 1000s white young girls (children), when families informed the police, they were branded as racist, So it was ignored for a decade. That is what political correctness does.

Any one that supports PC laws is quilty as they allowed it to continue. This event killed off PC attitudes.
 
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Minonian

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It is unfinished business, yeah. And the majority can easily shift to the remain side in the coming months.

Do you see what are they playing at? The usual, lying about the consequences, and how it will ends to them they feel the knife in their throats, so they trying to make it go away. It wont work, never work, not after something like this. IF something have this hard consequences, than you cant talk your way out of it. And again 2006 hungary, after the whole turmoil started in my country, the socialist government tough they can just keep going like nothing happen at all, and they can lie down their dirty laundry and get away with it.

Dead wrong! The Brexiters are done. It will takes some time, but for the damage they caused, they will going to hanged up.

If this caused just within one day so much damage what takes to repair a decade? than there is nothing what can help them.
 
Yeah, you and others seem to have no trust in newpapers, yet you get your information from somewhere that you trust, so name it? Or are you just trolling ?

I have plenty of trust for quality journalism, not tabloid trash with a self admitted political bias and agenda.
 
Do you see what are they playing at? The usual, lying about the consequences, and how it will ends to them they feel the knife in their throats, so they trying to make it go away. It wont work, never work, not after something like this. IF something have this hard consequences, than you cant talk your way out of it. And again 2006 hungary, after the whole turmoil started in my country, the socialist government tough they can just keep going like nothing happen at all, and they can lie down their dirty laundry and get away with it.

Dead wrong! The Brexiters are done. It will takes some time, but for the damage they caused, they will going to hanged up.

If this caused just within one day so much damage what takes to repair a decade? than there is nothing what can help them.

I honestly think our small island will surprise you - we have an incredible history of resilience... I have faith in the UK and it's people to rally together and make this work regardless of their view during the referendum.
 
Can you explain to me how Islam is a race and therefore any resentment to their ideology would mean I am a Racist? Xenophobia yes, But we have more than enough evidence that allowing millions of culturally inferior peoples with their extreme views towards treatment of woman and non-believers, it just doesn't add-up why you would defend that sort of behaviour?

Cultural racism is a term used in scientific research to describe a specific type of racism which developed from the generally known form of racism, which is "biological racism". "Cultural racism" is used by the UN, the swedish Equality Ombudsman and in the scientific world to describe some racist ideologies, ideas, reasoning, arguments, and notions.[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_racism#cite_note-1"][1][/URL] Citations are made in terms of ideology "culture shock" and that cultural differences legitimize exclusion and discrimination based on racial notions and ranking of culture as higher and lower in relation to each other. Examples of such notions and arguments that are included in these citations could be "many immigrants don't go to work, and engage in tax evasion", "many Gypsies have a cultural predisposition to steal", "Muslims have a lot of children, take over our country, and evade our culture" and "all Americans are idiots".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_racism
 
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