For some reason I think this is how the Merope 5c search is going to progress.
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UAs, Barnacles & other mysteries Thread 7 - The Canonn
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For your first question (previously) the UP twitching is artifact. It was not twitching for me.
Our initial drop in the system was at the main star and the UP pointed to the direction of merope 5, it did not point to merope 2a despite the fact it was much closer. From there we moved the UP in the direction it pointed until we isolated it was pointing to merope 5c. We did drops on either side of merope 5c and the UP pointed toward merope 5c (the big head seems to be the pointing head). Either side of the moon drops are tested and have footage. Ecthelion didn't label one side or the other but both are there and it always pointed to merope 5c.
Hope that clears things up... Hehe UP... sorry, Its late and I'm tired.
On another note I've submitted a bug report, it may not lead to anything but its worth a shot. SRVs dont destroy cargo
Just a thought...The UP is a UA head on a "bulb" and the UA has a UA head and the UA tail... The UP points with the bulb not the head, does that mean the UA points with its "tail"? The UA may align with merope but point away from it rather than to it... Or they might function differently. Neither here nor there, just a thought.
Wait, so 2c has the barnacle? My bad
Edit: No wait...checked the spreadsheet and the Merope barnacle is on 5c.
Edit 2:And so there's a new barnacle on 2A as well which I missed. It's possible a barnacle detecting UP would only point to one planet in a system with multiples for simplicity, so still worth checking in other barnacle systems.
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From: Commander M. Volgrand.
TO: Canonn Research, Thompson Dock, Varati
CC: Dr. Arcanonn, Canonn Council
Subject: First sound analysis of recently found Unknown Probe's
The research on Merope 5c is still undergoing, but no results have been yet found.
During my first analysis of the Unknown Probe signal, it seems pretty obvious that it is based on a cycle, separated on 2 well differentiated parts. The background signal, easily spotted in the bottom Spectogram, seems to evolve as time passes until the "Tone drop" starts. After this point this background signal seems to degrade to a point in which it barely has any resemblance to the initial one.
It is a this point when new "Whale" and "trumpet" sounds occur in a rather fast pattern.
Despite the obvious differences, this signal has many common elements with the Unknown Artifacts, as expected: Purrs are present and they seem to be identical; also the whale sound, while very different, has also many harmonic similarities with the UAs. Despite a dense analysis, I was unable to find any Morse code within the signal, however the possibility of a different coded language -either human or alien- should be considered.
My first hypothesis is that something triggered the UP to modify its "message" and, potentially, send it to Merope 5C. This could have been triggered by the proximity of a human ship -as it was already demonstrated with the UAs- or maybe another external factor that has not been considered yet. However, until we can gather and analyse more and longer recordings, there are many clues that we may be missing. I suggest to launch a call for all Canonn Scientists to recover at least one UP that we can test in different situations and, maybe, find the key to translate its message.
On a side note: Recent upgrades on the SRVs signal scanners permit now to gather data from the barnacles themselves. Our scientists should dedicate part of their efforts on gathering this data and delivering it to Varati as soon as possible for further study.
Do not hesitate on contacting me if you require more information. I'll head back to Merope as soon as possible.
M. Volgrand.
PS: If new mysteries keep popping in, I will never get the money to buy an Orca!
TO: Canonn Research, Thompson Dock, Varati
CC: Dr. Arcanonn, Canonn Council
Subject: First sound analysis of recently found Unknown Probe's
The research on Merope 5c is still undergoing, but no results have been yet found.
During my first analysis of the Unknown Probe signal, it seems pretty obvious that it is based on a cycle, separated on 2 well differentiated parts. The background signal, easily spotted in the bottom Spectogram, seems to evolve as time passes until the "Tone drop" starts. After this point this background signal seems to degrade to a point in which it barely has any resemblance to the initial one.
It is a this point when new "Whale" and "trumpet" sounds occur in a rather fast pattern.
Despite the obvious differences, this signal has many common elements with the Unknown Artifacts, as expected: Purrs are present and they seem to be identical; also the whale sound, while very different, has also many harmonic similarities with the UAs. Despite a dense analysis, I was unable to find any Morse code within the signal, however the possibility of a different coded language -either human or alien- should be considered.
My first hypothesis is that something triggered the UP to modify its "message" and, potentially, send it to Merope 5C. This could have been triggered by the proximity of a human ship -as it was already demonstrated with the UAs- or maybe another external factor that has not been considered yet. However, until we can gather and analyse more and longer recordings, there are many clues that we may be missing. I suggest to launch a call for all Canonn Scientists to recover at least one UP that we can test in different situations and, maybe, find the key to translate its message.
On a side note: Recent upgrades on the SRVs signal scanners permit now to gather data from the barnacles themselves. Our scientists should dedicate part of their efforts on gathering this data and delivering it to Varati as soon as possible for further study.
Do not hesitate on contacting me if you require more information. I'll head back to Merope as soon as possible.
M. Volgrand.
PS: If new mysteries keep popping in, I will never get the money to buy an Orca!
Ok after listening to the UP sound I can clearly hear morse.
First there are the dashes and dots. They are the differently pitched beeps, we just need to work out which pitch is a dash and which is a dot.
Then there is a space. This is represented by the rumble the UP makes after a series of the beeps.
Then there is the slash. This is represented by the banshee scream the UP makes.
I'm no morse expert but I will try my best to decode.
Thanks,
Omate.
First there are the dashes and dots. They are the differently pitched beeps, we just need to work out which pitch is a dash and which is a dot.
Then there is a space. This is represented by the rumble the UP makes after a series of the beeps.
Then there is the slash. This is represented by the banshee scream the UP makes.
I'm no morse expert but I will try my best to decode.
Thanks,
Omate.
In my analysis, I believe what you call morse are the "Purrs". I have checked them very closely, they are exactly the same number of dots/dashes and there are no apparent differences. But I may be wrong on that.
At least now where know where to conduct our orbital testing.
It would be interesting to see if the UP falls straight down or engages in it's own locomotion. Would it 'home-in' on the barnacles and attempt to move toward them?
Would it be possible for someone to share a link to a high-quality recording of a UP we can use for analysis? I'm not in possession of a UP obviously but I do have some pretty good audio monitoring equipment and a working knowledge of some audio tools.
Thanks in advance.
but I do have some pretty good audio monitoring equipment and a working knowledge of some audio tools.Thanks in advance.
It falls straight downward while in orbit. We were above OC height but close enough for gravity to effect it. If it was using any locomotion it was so mild it was not obvious when I was following it to scoop it. That retrieval took quite awhile compared to the others
Ok I just finished 'decoding' what I could from the recording of the probe on Merope 5C. This is what I got.
High Pitched as (-), low pitch as (.): -.- --. ---- --- --... .-- / --. .... --- .-- -.- --. --. --. / --. .- --- ... .--. .-- -.- --. --. --- .-- .-- -.- --. .-- /
Translates to: KG(error)O7W GHOWKGGG GAOSPWKGGOWWKGW
High Pitched as (.), low pitched as (-): .-. ..- .... ... ..--- -.. / ..- ---- ... -.. .-. ..- ..- ..- / ..- -. ... --- -..- -.. .-. ..- ..- ... -.. -.. .-. ..- -.. /
Translates to: RUHS2D U(error)SDRUUU UNSOXDRUUSDDRUD
I'm no morse expert and I did this with my ears and a piece of paper. So somebody with better knowledge and tools could definitely do better. Hope it helps anyway.
Thanks,
Omate.
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Im using the 'purrs' as spaces. I don't know if you can hear them, but there are different pitched beeps that are in between the purrs. They are exclusive to the UP, the UA does not have them. They sound a lot like dots and dashes in morse to me.
Thanks,
Omate.
High Pitched as (-), low pitch as (.): -.- --. ---- --- --... .-- / --. .... --- .-- -.- --. --. --. / --. .- --- ... .--. .-- -.- --. --. --- .-- .-- -.- --. .-- /
Translates to: KG(error)O7W GHOWKGGG GAOSPWKGGOWWKGW
High Pitched as (.), low pitched as (-): .-. ..- .... ... ..--- -.. / ..- ---- ... -.. .-. ..- ..- ..- / ..- -. ... --- -..- -.. .-. ..- ..- ... -.. -.. .-. ..- -.. /
Translates to: RUHS2D U(error)SDRUUU UNSOXDRUUSDDRUD
I'm no morse expert and I did this with my ears and a piece of paper. So somebody with better knowledge and tools could definitely do better. Hope it helps anyway.
Thanks,
Omate.
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Im using the 'purrs' as spaces. I don't know if you can hear them, but there are different pitched beeps that are in between the purrs. They are exclusive to the UP, the UA does not have them. They sound a lot like dots and dashes in morse to me.
Thanks,
Omate.
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Just on the off chance I tried running your transcription through ROT1-25 ciphers to see if anything would pop out, unfortunately I could not see anything that looked like plain text or system names.
Nice work. What does the (error) signify?
And if it's anything like a Vigenere or more complex cipher it gets really hard if there are errors.
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The error was four dashes "----". Apparently it doesn't translate to anything.
looks so weird with it twitching like that...
Keeping up with this thread can be a full-time activity in itself. Has anyone tried bringing a UP to a Barnacle and then using the SRV's data scanner to scan them both?
Looking down on the barnacles has a similar head as the probe, is it possible they are being launched from there hence them pointing back?
Maybe it's a subterranean species we're dealing with. Is there any caves in game?
Maybe it's a subterranean species we're dealing with. Is there any caves in game?
I try to keep up and stay active in this thread and mostly my theories are ignored. Im cool with that, most of them are bogus anyway haha. It just seems you guys are pretty set on what you believe and how you do things, and don't like ideas that conflict with your own. This way of thinking has you chasing your own tails and missing obvious in game and forum hints.
The whole mystery has gone from being a community driven event to a Canon driven event. The story has multiple paths it could potentially go down, but it is no longer in the hands of the community as a whole.
You share only specific information, that which you find to be relevant. Try requesting details on a specific test and I am ignored or told to not bother pursuing that line of thought for no other reason than it is unlikely. Someone comes up with a theory or a test to try that hasnt been done and does not personally have the ability to do it themselves. You would think there would be someone here that would say "actually i am pretty sick of flying around staring down at dirt, maybe I will try that". Instead the person with the idea has to either try it themselves or forget about it, potentially missing a key piece of the puzzle in the process. With the most prolific group using these methods it sends a poor message to the rest of the community on what is important and what to do with specific items.
So people end up shooting things or repeating irrelevant tests over and over trying to get different results, then scratching their heads when they cant work out what's going on. And they call it science.
We are missing out and going to miss out on really cool stuff because of a Neanderthal approach to science. We also have no chance of changing things now because the the people who promote this approach have gained too much publicity. This irritates me greatly, for I feel like a huge choice has been made for everyone, but not everyone gets a say in the final outcome. One of my favorite things about this game is the incredible amount of choices a player has, and I dont want someone else making them for me.
I just have one request to the powers that be. If possible, please make it so that any consequences for the atrocities committed to the barnacles are relevant to each CMDR. I know I am not the only one who has treated the barnacles humanely, observing and recording rather than and destroying. Myself and those similar should not be punished for crimes committed by others. It wont surprise me if all humans are targeted. I understand the barnacles are sentient but I don't know if they are smart enough to distinguish one hairless ape from another, or if they will even care...
If that's the case then let me sign up to offer my services to the barnacles now. If I am given the choice I will join with the barnacles, I will help them eradicate humanity. Our species has gone too far this time and I am ashamed...
The whole mystery has gone from being a community driven event to a Canon driven event. The story has multiple paths it could potentially go down, but it is no longer in the hands of the community as a whole.
You share only specific information, that which you find to be relevant. Try requesting details on a specific test and I am ignored or told to not bother pursuing that line of thought for no other reason than it is unlikely. Someone comes up with a theory or a test to try that hasnt been done and does not personally have the ability to do it themselves. You would think there would be someone here that would say "actually i am pretty sick of flying around staring down at dirt, maybe I will try that". Instead the person with the idea has to either try it themselves or forget about it, potentially missing a key piece of the puzzle in the process. With the most prolific group using these methods it sends a poor message to the rest of the community on what is important and what to do with specific items.
So people end up shooting things or repeating irrelevant tests over and over trying to get different results, then scratching their heads when they cant work out what's going on. And they call it science.
We are missing out and going to miss out on really cool stuff because of a Neanderthal approach to science. We also have no chance of changing things now because the the people who promote this approach have gained too much publicity. This irritates me greatly, for I feel like a huge choice has been made for everyone, but not everyone gets a say in the final outcome. One of my favorite things about this game is the incredible amount of choices a player has, and I dont want someone else making them for me.
I just have one request to the powers that be. If possible, please make it so that any consequences for the atrocities committed to the barnacles are relevant to each CMDR. I know I am not the only one who has treated the barnacles humanely, observing and recording rather than and destroying. Myself and those similar should not be punished for crimes committed by others. It wont surprise me if all humans are targeted. I understand the barnacles are sentient but I don't know if they are smart enough to distinguish one hairless ape from another, or if they will even care...
If that's the case then let me sign up to offer my services to the barnacles now. If I am given the choice I will join with the barnacles, I will help them eradicate humanity. Our species has gone too far this time and I am ashamed...
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